Title: Talk about playing
Description: we can talk about the game on this topic
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 5, 2012 09:43 AM (GMT)
Hi Friends.
when a player play a game more and more get some skills and something that we named it EXPERIENCE.
We can talk about what we learn on the RTCW.
well the first important thing i learned from the game is headshut,s
just 2 shoot on your opponent,s head is enough to kill it.
but it,s not an easy job to do!
when you have a big distance from enemy you can shoot One after One.
this job increase your chance to hit your enemy then barrage!
well this is just show you what i think , let i know what you think!
:)
Fietser - January 5, 2012 10:47 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (.:ReyMysterio:. @ Jan 5 2012, 10:43 AM) |
just 2 shoot on your opponent,s head is enough to kill it.
but it,s not an easy job to do! |
Shoot at the head when a player is standing still, the most easy part.
When a player moves I aim a little higher, helmet or above.
A crouched player I aim at the face.
Also shoot in bursts to improve bullet accuracy.
Don't get too good at this or Roki will call you a cheater. :D
inflameous - January 5, 2012 12:37 PM (GMT)
one hint i've learnt - i know this sounds crazy - DON'T GET KILLED!!! hehe
pinkfloyd - January 5, 2012 03:34 PM (GMT)
And if the player is moving, make sure you get the first bullet in his hed. He still has some health left and is still moving, so shoot in the direction when he's moving.
One really bad situation is when allies engineers are planting dynamite. They are not moving and very vulerable so just move in circle whil arming the dynamite. That gives a slightly better chance for survival, as Inf says.
Another thing; intermediate toshort range shots :FOV=90....Long distance shots, FOV=110. They say it makes a differenc.
There are exceptions to this general rule: long ditane shots: better have a low mouse sensitivity, while other shots better have a higher sensitivity
Fietser - January 5, 2012 05:17 PM (GMT)
I use different mouse senses in my fov toggle.
set sensn "sensitivity 0.95" // normal
set sensw "sensitivity 1.50" // wide
// FOV
set fov "vstr fov_90"
set fov_90 "cg_fov 90; vstr sensn;echo ^1[^7Fov ^290^1]; set fov vstr fov_wide"
set fov_wide "cg_fov 110; vstr sensw;echo ^1[^7Fov ^1110^1]; set fov vstr fov_90"
A larger fov also makes it easier to jump out of the bunker above the trenches.
pinkfloyd - January 5, 2012 05:29 PM (GMT)
Fiets you are among the very few expert players on this game. You are really that fasst to change the FOV in intense fight, why someone is shooting at you, you have time to evade his shots a bit tpp many kb presses) , change FOV (somw more key presses) and then get back to him and just kill him?
And why do that script when all modern mice have just one button for sensitivity? No need for a script....and IMO, I don't think FOV is that important as they all say...I am a noob, so it may be important, but not that much
pinkfloyd - January 5, 2012 05:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fietser @ Jan 5 2012, 07:17 PM) |
I use different mouse senses in my fov toggle.
set sensn "sensitivity 0.95" // normal set sensw "sensitivity 1.50" // wide
// FOV set fov "vstr fov_90" set fov_90 "cg_fov 90; vstr sensn;echo ^1[^7Fov ^290^1]; set fov vstr fov_wide" set fov_wide "cg_fov 110; vstr sensw;echo ^1[^7Fov ^1110^1]; set fov vstr fov_90"
A larger fov also makes it easier to jump out of the bunker above the trenches. |
Plus almost all servers have the FOV toggle disabled by default and they require another login to effect that FOV change....I don't know about beach, but that toggle was first used back in 2002 for some sort of illegal advantage especially for snipers.
Try that toggle on RAF or H4s and you'll know what I mean :)
Fietser - January 5, 2012 05:50 PM (GMT)
I use this fov toggle on any 1.0 and 1.4 server and have no problems what so ever with it including the h4s server. I've never heard of such a thing that fov toggles are disabled, because it can't be disabled. I only toggle fov when I have the time for it. So I don't switch in middle of a fight but when entering the bunker or the wall breach.
I use fov 110 as default. Only on some large maps like beach and assault I sometimes switch to fov 90.
Most 1.4 servers have a limit for fov ranging from 120 to 140. A fov of like 180 can give a camper too big of a view and is regarded as cheating.
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 6, 2012 12:44 PM (GMT)
Well Well we have 2 active member,s here. :)
Nice,lets talk about another learned thing:
How we can get a high Point on ranking?
According to fietser,s comment maybe somebody tell us CHEATER! for our points!
I tell it for our server *beach* and maybe you ( other servers player) talk about your server for this question!
on this post i just talk about allies:
well stealing Objective have 10 points and is important thing for an allies player to do it.
if you go to radio room and finish the game you got 20 more points and if you dead you have the chance of steal it again (and gain another 10 points) !
you can start the game as engineer and get 5 points with planning the dynamite near the sea wall or forward bunker door.
(you can chage your role anytime of the game with back sign inside close button on limbo menu! its work after your dying!)
you get 10 more points for crash the wall with your dynamite.
you can heal ! the unmoved guns! to get 2 points.
medic can heal other player,s and get 2 points for it.
for this i think many good players start the game as engineer and change the role to medic untill end of the game.
there is many ways to get points but i think this way is likable! :)
Arming the Dynamite , Be a medic and steal the Objective and heal your friends.
Some times i just see good players play as spectator, they have something that other,s haven't!
it,s a high ACTIVITY!
let,s talk about this learned things.
pinkfloyd - January 6, 2012 01:18 PM (GMT)
Rey my buddy, point counts really do not matter. I've seen so many lame players who just keep on collecting cheap points as allies in the bunker. They play engineers, nade the MG42, then fix them and so on. That is lame , IMO...the game is supposed to be a team work. A medic doesn't have to revive to get points, but a good medic throws health packs to good players to keep them going. If a good player is there, I simply give him health packs to keep him going. That doesn't count as points, but he knows I helped as a teamwork.
Only noobs check points. We all did that years ago, but so many good things do not have points. Take this:
As an ally, nade the fixed mg42 guns....no points there....but it sure helps the team...Axis can't use them to fire on your team mates.
Other examples are there when one is playin axis..like where and ehen to give ammo...
My point is: either one is looking for points (that is impressive in the eyes of most players, agree), or he is just a good team player (takes some time but eventually all players know who is a good team player) and that is how I play.
Denying good players a health pack or an ammo pack is a crime. It is all teamwork, doesn't matter who deoes what. On the long run, players will know who is a useful teamplayer and they will respect him for that :)
Teamplay is the key for a good game..not just points. There are so many ways one can help his team without scoring points...that takes practice and some long hours of playing, and knowing what to do, and where.
But thanks, man, for the score tips,,,I never heard of them and I've been playing for 3 years now...
Thanks Rey :)
'L0. - January 6, 2012 02:17 PM (GMT)
I love all the "innocent" part that comes with new players. Reminds me of the days when I started to play and all the now gone friends that where around at that days. :blush:
To give you some boost, if you're up for a score then you can boost pts whoring by killing someone that's near objective - just before (s)he grabs it will give you 5 or 3 pts if I recall right- useful if you're facing more enemies and can't get them all etc..
But in reality, pts don't really matter. I really don't care how much I have, even if i'm bellow 0. I'm there just to frag and occasionally if I feel like to, help to finish the game but honestly, mostly to frag. :) There's nothing more funny to me than when some "high class wanabe" jumps instantly over the wall and finishes the game then think he rocks, while in reality no one was there to stop him as there's really no point finishing game in 2 min. on a server with one map cause guess what, next round you will be playing exactly the same game on exactly the same side. :huh: :D
As for the whole headshot thing. Headshot's are tied to many things, it's not just aim and shot. Art is to learn to move and shot at the same time while holding your aim to enemy's head. Understanding game flow and game logic helps as well. On top of that, it comes also to your hardware, cheap mouses can't track well and tend to jitter- but don't get me wrong, good mouse wont make you better, it's still up to you to aim, but good mouse will do exactly what you want while cheap mouses will do all kinds of stuff and pose all kinda of problems.
Bottom line is, learning to shot takes time, good part is that once you gain skill you can use it over any other fps game as aiming is done the same in any game, it just depends to what kinda circumstances it's tied to - i.e. iron sight etc..
:)
intence - January 6, 2012 04:42 PM (GMT)
I can tell you lots of thing so you can aim better! :P
But it will be just so lame talking about ffe/kill/spawnrape.
But I can give you simple Technic which will work wonders for you.
All you need to do it walk around with aim at head level. Even on stairs you aim up.
Its hard and need lots of concentration which you dont really need in pub. But can get few extra kills.
Its not hard if you are young. As I am getting old (30 now)
I also have hard time to keep my aim high and doing shit. <_<
Keep clean mouse and mousepad also helps. And please buy a decent gaming mouse.
Dont whine on the server :hardrock: that I cheat. :blush:
pinkfloyd - January 6, 2012 05:07 PM (GMT)
LOL Intence...I just hate you for you are a damn good player who always own me...you forgot our 1vs1 on beach 1.4 server, basement map...hahaha...that is ownage...you killed me 15 times in a row...no cheats.
Yeah, sure, "spawn as LT pink"...even if I spawn as GOD...you'd still kill me :)
Keeping that aim , as you say, is impossible for me...and the way you move...man I am 57 years old. Maybe Rey can practice what you say....work on it ray, it pays off in the future, you can become a great player....
All good 1.4 players play like you say, too many kb presses for me....
Intence? DIE in game (not in real life, God bless you)...die die die die die die :)
Love you, man....hard or impossible to come close to you.
/pink
intence - January 6, 2012 05:59 PM (GMT)
It doest matter you will learn playing in about 3 years or so.
You just need little more help. :mafia:
And tbh I am not very good player. I am ok player on 1.41.
There are many youngsters who are pretty good on 1.41.
For me lot of other stuffs comes before rtcw.
Few more things you can try to get your aim little better.
I will tell you. PM me about it or I shall forget.
Happy gaming.
B)
pinkfloyd - January 6, 2012 06:24 PM (GMT)
Intence, I sent you a pm.... :)
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 7, 2012 03:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (pinkfloyd @ Jan 6 2012, 06:07 PM) |
man I am 57 years old. Maybe Rey can practice what you say....work on it ray, it pays off in the future, you can become a great player.... |
What do you think about my age dear pinkiiiiiiii?
you think i have 13 years old!!!
guess my old. :)
I must remember to build a new post to players come and tell anything they want about them.
like age, nationality, job & ets...
pinkfloyd - January 7, 2012 05:19 AM (GMT)
LOL Rey, I'd give you around 30 years old and with your experience you still have around 3 more years to improve on what you already have ...then it is all downhill from there...hahaha....cruel life, right!
And building a database where all players will post personal info is not a good idea for most players like to remain anonymous or they are known only to a limited number of players and anybody posting anything that seems personal about him is not necessarily true, so don't bother. I said my age because some players know me in real life so what the heck :)
ggs mate ;)
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 9, 2012 02:30 PM (GMT)
i,m 26 :rolleyes:
well as an axis member:
the best way is still on war room and let the allies player steal the objective ! and kill it and give the objective back ( it,s not important who kill stealer but you must be the first persion who giving the objective back because it have 10 points! )
lituman have good chance of giving points because allies MUST start the game on outdoor!
be a litu or medic and defend Objective ( let them steal!) and you kill them and give it back. :)
well i think our friends tell right, when you are noobs! this is important to give more points to like the game but after a little you like to have team game or duel!!!
yes i and lion warior have a colt duel today!
and i see some good professional players like crash&burn , pinkfloyd , sexytrooper sort3r and some others just use colt on a funny game and its was fantastic for me. :)
so i think too the points is not every thing.
pinkfloyd - January 9, 2012 03:33 PM (GMT)
HAHAHA Rey...after sometime one knows the approximte age of the players (even if he doesn't know them in real life) from what they say and how they play...so 26 from 30 is not that far...best years in gaming world...where there is experience, reflexes, and brains.
And please do not add me, ever, to the list of Troopy or sorter...they are masters and professionals. I am just a noob who is trying to make a living in this game...hahaha...these sexies taught me so much. They taught me everything, to be honest and grateful in public.And I own so many things to others, who also added a brick to the wall of pink floyd....they are professionals.
Rey, it is always fun when they use lugers/pistols. That is fun. To theses experienced players, a luger in their hands is like an automatic panzer in noobs' hands. Watch them, play against them. They are the fun of the game.
Other names withheld..but crashy is damn good....really..Football, LAH, Groffy, Green, Depro, Sandokan, Caitlin, Dupo, Gyer, Caitlin, Dairyair, Foxtrot, Bulldog, Wiley, Hidegkuti, Direwolf, Fietser, one, pwnthetroll ....and they are all clean...damn !!!!
:lol:
GrofvonPicmal - January 9, 2012 03:45 PM (GMT)
Hehe Ray,Troop and I started playing colts,cos it was fun to play colt vs axis venoms.You guess who won.
[CUNNY] - January 9, 2012 06:33 PM (GMT)
i got temp ban today from beach for unknown reason :(
Fietser - January 9, 2012 06:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE ([CUNNY] @ Jan 9 2012, 07:33 PM) |
| i got temp ban today from beach for unknown reason :( |
Admins can tempban players if they feel a player is killing of too many precious noobs.
It's a noob server and they deserve a bit of protection.
pinkfloyd - January 10, 2012 05:33 AM (GMT)
@ Fie: I disagree with this line of thinking.
1. There are alwaya (most of the times) good players on any team. So, that evens out the playfield even after some rounds.
2. Who saaid noobs need protection? Speaking about noobs, they need to play against/with better players to learn. As a perfect noob, I never mind to be killed by a good player .
:blush:
Dupolina - January 10, 2012 02:34 PM (GMT)
Fietser - January 10, 2012 02:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dupolina @ Jan 10 2012, 03:34 PM) |
| Pink U right. |
If Pink is right then why on earth did you ever kick Jinx and Seth? :o
I think Pink is very wrong. Lots of other servers have died this way.
Just this morning there were 28 players on the server. Some Osp players came and the server went down to 6 players. <_<
Dupolina - January 10, 2012 03:01 PM (GMT)
First of all I had a suspicion that they cheat (wh) and use other nicknames to hide-secondly... and only once not ever! but now it does not matter.
Who will play as everyone will be banned for such reasons?
Fietser - January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dupolina @ Jan 10 2012, 04:01 PM) |
| Who will play as everyone will be banned for such reasons? |
Noobs. :lol:
Dupolina - January 10, 2012 03:07 PM (GMT)
I forgot that you think that only noobs are playing there :P
Fietser - January 10, 2012 03:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dupolina @ Jan 10 2012, 04:07 PM) |
| I forgot that you think that only noobs are playing there :P |
Well, you play there a lot . . . :D
Dupolina - January 10, 2012 04:40 PM (GMT)
well... I do not call myself a professional like you, I'm a modest person :D
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 10, 2012 05:08 PM (GMT)
well ... let speack about the game on my topic. :D
i have dupolina idea and dont think noobs get out from the game because good players still here!
THE GAME is fantastic and it,s why i play on it and i dont think get out for the reason.( i say it as a professionall noob :) some thing like ass kick do you see the movie?)
'L0. - January 10, 2012 05:23 PM (GMT)
There's no point kicking skilled players, otherwise you'll only end up with garbage. And to explain what I mean by that. There's only but few real noobs around, most of so called noobs are a career noobs - ones that play few years and didn't learn nothing at all, and those are usually the ones that call everyone a cheater and call stupid votes constantly, thus garbage.
There's no reason to keep out everyone that can aim, if you wish to run a noob server, then so be it but don't push it to one crowd only cause in this case it's a wrong crowd, you wont be able to make a friendly evnirnoment server even if only piti and other noobs play alone, cause they're like piranhas, once there's no one to call cheater they'll turn to each other.
You are in a good position here. You can run a noob friendly server that's well administrated and as such, you'll get more skilled players and a mix of all at one spot. If you wish to have it as you say noob friendly then do as now...don't ban and kick all the fools that call stupid votes and everyone a hacker and leave at the same time more skilled players to play in peace. Otherwise you're just making another sluxx which has no sense since there's already one.
My 2 cents.
madman - January 10, 2012 05:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Fietser @ Jan 9 2012, 07:57 PM) |
| QUOTE ([CUNNY) | | ,Jan 9 2012, 07:33 PM] i got temp ban today from beach for unknown reason :( |
Admins can tempban players if they feel a player is killing of too many precious noobs. It's a noob server and they deserve a bit of protection.
|
so basically we just have to suck on purpose :P
pinkfloyd - January 10, 2012 07:30 PM (GMT)
I perfectly agree with LO's 2 cents worth. Pink being the boss of noobs and career noobs, we all enjoy playing with real good players on a properly administrated servers for their presence is the fun of the game...Rey, imagine playing on a server full of pink and pink-like players...that will be total BS. I mean it is a blessing to have some 1.4 good players here instead of going to them on 1.4 and they came here because they know this is a server with cool admins.
Die? So what? Points? never really cared about them...
@Madman...no Sir, you play the way you want, and when Kings show up and play, the peasants are happy....be sure of that.
my 2 cents' worth :)
Fietser - January 10, 2012 09:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (madman @ Jan 10 2012, 06:24 PM) |
| so basically we just have to suck on purpose :P |
nah, if you played at your best you still wouldn't be in the range of players i'm talking about. ;)
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 11, 2012 07:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (pinkfloyd @ Jan 10 2012, 08:30 PM) |
| ...Rey, imagine playing on a server full of pink and pink-like players... |
In this case i think dead :hang:
and after waking up i,m in:
heaven :surfing:
paradise :lol:
Eden :P
Zion ! :pharaon:
with a lot of pinkiiiii :)
.:ReyMysterio:. - January 12, 2012 12:00 PM (GMT)
well last day i try to play on a server with Variable maps.
its funny but i dont understand what i must to do on any map!
i know the first needed job was killing enemy and i do it fully and get success on it. :rolleyes:
but i know i must find an objective and do something like escape from the (something like)main door but because i,m a professional noobi i cant find the place of Objective for half time of the game and i cant find the escape door for another half time of the game! :D
and after 1 round i must be an axis player and always i favored as axis player! B)
lets talk about the servers with Variable maps. :)
Fietser - January 12, 2012 01:38 PM (GMT)
The best way to learn other maps is to spec other players that do know it. ;)
[CUNNY] - January 12, 2012 01:49 PM (GMT)
Lol at convo so far... well il say that i aint the only decent aimer on that server and it isnt all me IF people leave, i cant seem to find any other servers that are classed as "normal" no 100+ speed movement no jumping 50ft in the air no grenade that explodes as if it was an airstrike and not having weapons where you dont actually need to reload ...i do prefer this server fietsers server..
and tbh the only way people will improve on this game is if they have a challenge every now n then i feel like i do a good job as axis, i prefer axis due to i hate running from bunker as allies ...it drags!
and as axis if the allies are completely owning the axis team at least i can try step in and keep them from winning i.e keeping the game going and if it gets close a few times it makes the game better keeps people excited. if i play allies i get bored because if i get docs ... therfore i have to leave the docs and then i just camp basement its crap,
besides my skill isnt that good to the point where i decide who wins and when, meaning i shouldn't get bans :(
Also! i now have to ask admins that are on the server if im allowed to have my cunny cfg if not i have to play in default grx EXTREAMLY dark 90 fov and cg_crosshairsize 0 and apparently that makes me equal to everyone else LOL :(
pinkfloyd - January 12, 2012 01:49 PM (GMT)
LOL Rey, I would like to meet you in heaven and we can play RTCw (Why not? it is heave....) and own Sorter all the time...hahaha that would be cool...
The problem with servers running rotating maps is like you say...most of the maps, I don't know where the Docs are, and if I get them, by chance, I too don't know where to take them :)
But there are 2 kinds of maps: basic ones, and these are somewhat easy to know after sometime, and custom maps that are specially designed and these are harde to learn. So, forget about servers running only custom maps (anyway they are mostly 1.4 servers) and stick to servers runing 1.0 standard maps. H4s ia a server that runs lots of standarad maps.
Spect, and you will know how the map is, where docs and choke points are, then play. Some basic maps are heavily biased, licke church and escpae2....they are mainly axis maps.....but always allies are more fun and action on any map :)
I only play beach , now...a map that all 1.4 players don't like....oh well, so what? To me, the game is the beach map. I forgot all other maps.
And final words, I am the professional noob, not you, I've been playing this same game for more than 3 years, now....so who is noobier ???/