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 Rate My Application?, For the lovely Ayye.
numbfant
Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:09 PM


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My application is far from done but can you please rate it on what is there? I want to add at least 5 more pictures, one more story, some adoptables and more stuff in my gallery but how does it look right now?

I don't know how to link it but here is the link:

http://www.neopets.com/~Tafq

Thank you. All comments, suggestions, etc are welcome. Be as harsh as you like. xD I need it.
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hamecon447
Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:16 PM


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I would make the font waaayyyy more nicer. Right now it looks ick. The first part is funny, but I just don't think you should add the pictures for the faerie xweetock. Because I thought at first you were applying for the fareie xweetok!!!!!!!!!

ART. Fan art. Your art. Just art. I saw nothing of it. I hate the layout. Just a bunch a gray and default pictures of the pet. Change it to a table, or one big blog.


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Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:18 PM


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Hmm well I sort of like how you did the layout, except the blank white BG bothers me. Maybe get a beach or Pirate ship sene somehow?

In the about section, you mentioned n00bs a few times. That bothers me. It seems to me people only use the term n00b anymore to try and make themself look better/ more literate. I really think that its better if you took that out sleep.gif

The text bothers me alot o_o But that may just be me.

Do you have any art? Fanart? Anything?

Honestly I don't really think it is worthy of Ayye, seeing as Pirate is a really rare color and them being new and whatnot. I think you should really get some art, maybe make a custom lookup? I think it's good you have a story and a personality but I'm just big on art.

But I'm not Ayye's owner so it doesn't matter what I say, so don't get offended ohmy.gif

Good luck!

EDIT: I agree with Hamecon(is that what you're called? o_o)
I thought you were applying for a Faerie Xweetok too :3


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Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:20 PM


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There is a link to art on the side.

I'm going to be drawing a picture (large) of Ayye and adding it above the Links section.

I'm going to change the font too smile.gif I was meaning to change it but never got around to it.

I only have two pieces of art but I'm planning on having at least 5 more.



I took out the pictures of Tafq and I'm going to work on the font and everything like that. Thanks for the suggestions. I need to work on the pirate xweetok picture I want on the layout so I can add that and I'll change the background to a color.

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Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:46 PM


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Why is all the art on a seperate page? And why is all the art not by you/CaP/heavily referenced?

I don't see ANY mention of roleplay. I would never give anybody a pirate pet who doesn't roleplay.

I also hate how there are three separate blogs. One big blog will suffice. You also have a very plain layout. Neopets images pasted on blogs with white backgrounds is very boring.

Let's move onto the content.



TOO MANY BRACKETS. o.o It's (kinda) like reading (like) this. (Very) Annoying!!! Use commas and hyphens instead.

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I won't get much into why I almost quit but I put my mutant draik (Inwardly, now a faerie draik), my plushie kougra (Chaiyia) and my gray kougra (Ichigo_kitty309) up for adoption.


I won't get into why I almost quit but I put my mutant draik, Inwardly, who is now a faerie draik, my plushie kougra, Chaiyia, and my gray kougra, Ichigo_kitty309 up for adoption.



I didn't read past the first two paragraphs. Try starting with a suspenseful story or something to keep the reader reading.
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Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:52 PM


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Weren't you Inwardly's owner? *dejavu feeling here* X) Yes, I can't spell that word.

Um, you're not going to get Ayye without more art. =/ Maybe make a layout with a drawing of Ayye and put a eye catching background or void of colors behind? Maybe some adoptables in the future?

That's my opinion at least. o-0 Good lucketh! (=


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Posted: Jan 3 2007, 10:53 PM


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Why is all the art on a seperate page? And why is all the art not by you/CaP/heavily referenced?

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I couldn't find room on the page but I'm going to be adding more art. The art however is by me.

Weren't you Inwardly's owner? *dejavu feeling here* X) Yes, I can't spell that word.

Um, you're not going to get Ayye without more art. =/ Maybe make a layout with a drawing of Ayye and put a eye catching background or void of colors behind? Maybe some adoptables in the future?

That's my opinion at least. o-0 Good lucketh! (=

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numbfant
Posted: Jan 4 2007, 12:47 AM


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Alright, updates.

Font: Changed the size, color, style of the font and I like it. Any opinion on it?

Background: I made it a solid color but I'm not sure if I should change the color. I may draw something for the background. Any suggestions? I think it looks better than the white.

Picture: I added a picture to the layout. Not sure if anyone likes it but I do. xD I have two other pictures on a seperate page (link under 'links') What do you think? Positioning okay?

Layout: I sitll like the layout, so yeah. If others don't like it, I'm sorry smile.gif

Alright, content, I fixed a few things, nothing major. I'm going to add a short story to the front of the application and another long story after the story I already have.

Um, yeah.
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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 01:03 AM


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Please get rid of the screenies of food and toys.
There very corny


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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 01:19 AM


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Maybe you could give his a custom look. It'd be a lot nicer for the owner instead of the neopets look.


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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 02:01 AM


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Now that's better. n.n

I still recommend you make it one blog instead of three.
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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 03:15 AM


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Wasn't gonna comment but - keep the three blogs. Makes your app special, and I like it.
Take the three blogs, your less compitition - I like the compititon. ;D

Also, if you need art, then I can take as many requests as you like, so long as your aware I'll probably test out colouring on the art. Still havn't come up with my own colouring style yet. x_x


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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 04:29 AM


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Take the three blogs, your less compitition - I like the compititon. ;D


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Please get rid of the screenies of food and toys.
There very corny

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I may keep it. I like it and stuff. Dunno...

Maybe you could give his a custom look. It'd be a lot nicer for the owner instead of the neopets look.

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I agree but I love the way the pirate xweetoks look already and don't think they can get any better. I'll be thinking of a way to make them better.


Also, if you need art, then I can take as many requests as you like, so long as your aware I'll probably test out colouring on the art. Still havn't come up with my own colouring style yet. x_x

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If you want to draw me something of Ayye, that would be awesome.
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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 05:37 PM


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I agree with Hamecon(is that what you're called? o_o)


No, people call me Swizzle.

And Hamecon meens hook in french. happy.gif So, yeah, I don't like being called that much.

EDIT:And I thought you said you were quiting Neopets? I would not give my pet to a person who said they quit, AND put a DRAIK UFA. And you should really know what a good app is. Millions(well, not millions) applied for Inwardly with wonderfull applications.

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Layout: I sitll like the layout, so yeah. If others don't like it, I'm sorry

You HAVE to make others like it, because you're not picking who will get the pet, the owner of the pet will.

And you really, really need to get a custom disign.

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Wasn't gonna comment but - keep the three blogs. Makes your app special, and I like it.

The person who got Inwardly had 3 blogs. So, not so special.


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And you should really know what a good app is. Millions(well, not millions) applied for Inwardly with wonderfull applications.


Maybe hundreds. =o </random>

Yeah, I'd say you need a custom design because you know that at least one TXF member will be applying? They're applications are well known in succeeding. =/ And this is the first pirate Xweetok on the database so you'll have to go further.


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1. Maybe try drawing your own pets? (To show you're dedicated to them, therefore will be dedicated to Ayye)

2. Eeek at scrollbars...maybe keep as just one blog with interesting background? I dunno, it's up to you really.


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numbfant
Posted: Jan 4 2007, 11:03 PM


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EDIT:And I thought you said you were quiting Neopets? I would not give my pet to a person who said they quit, AND put a DRAIK UFA. And you should really know what a good app is. Millions(well, not millions) applied for Inwardly with wonderfull applications.

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I was quitting and I had good reasons for it. The person that adopted Inwardly, is named Vicki and her application was the best I saw although it isn't like all the other draik applications. I've seen a lot of applications but ones with the one blog are too popular and common. Make it unique and it is creative. My opinion. I rather not get Ayye and make an application that I feel is my best than get him because I went with mainstream application making. I've only seen a handful of two+ blog application and I like them.

You HAVE to make others like it, because you're not picking who will get the pet, the owner of the pet will.

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I got a lot of positive comments about my layout from a lot of people so yeah, others like it, just you aren't one that does. Everyone has a seperate opinion on matters so yeah. I'm sticking by my choice.

And you really, really need to get a custom disign.

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Working on it.

Yeah, I'd say you need a custom design because you know that at least one TXF member will be applying? They're applications are well known in succeeding. =/ And this is the first pirate Xweetok on the database so you'll have to go further.

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Ayye is very special but maybe people need to stop thinking about the application and think about the person? You can have amazing art, amazing roleplaying but be a horrible owner.

1. Maybe try drawing your own pets? (To show you're dedicated to them, therefore will be dedicated to Ayye)

2. Eeek at scrollbars...maybe keep as just one blog with interesting background? I dunno, it's up to you really.

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2. Someone suggested it and I tried it out before I left for school. Once again it is a matter of different opinions. Some like invisble scrollbars, others dont.

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Ayye is very special but maybe people need to stop thinking about the application and think about the person? You can have amazing art, amazing roleplaying but be a horrible owner.


Unfortunately, a lot of people don't think that way. There will be a lot of people applying so the owner might not fairly get to know everyone. =/ But you don't need amazing art to have a custom design. Get a friend to draw it for you or request someone to draw it here. It's the amount of effort that really counts at the end and how much your love for the pet shines through.

xD That sounded cheezy. o-0


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Posted: Jan 4 2007, 11:13 PM


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Unfortunately, a lot of people don't think that way. There will be a lot of people applying so the owner might not fairly get to know everyone. =/ But you don't need amazing art to have a custom design. Get a friend to draw it for you or request someone to draw it here. It's the amount of effort that really counts at the end and how much your love for the pet shines through.

xD That sounded cheezy. o-0

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Wouldn't you consider someone else drawing it for you, little effort? If my art is crap, oh well. I like it and I work hard on it. I'm a starting artist but I've got BC trophies for my pets and I know how to advertise. That is what I want to use the art for, the BC and to make his lookup and petpage look nice. There are great artist out there that let their pet rot with a fancy lookup.
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Wouldn't you consider someone else drawing it for you, little effort? If my art is crap, oh well. I like it and I work hard on it. I'm a starting artist but I've got BC trophies for my pets and I know how to advertise. That is what I want to use the art for, the BC and to make his lookup and petpage look nice. There are great artist out there that let their pet rot with a fancy lookup.


I didn't say you're a bad artist but if you want a custom design and you need help you have plenty of sources. And why do you keep bringing up that great artists let their pets rot? =/ I'm only trying to help you here.


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so...do you like want punctuation and grammar help?
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Posted: Jan 5 2007, 12:27 AM


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You can have amazing art, amazing roleplaying but be a horrible owner.

And what would that mean? Sorry to burst your bubble, but pixels can't die. And most of us are heartless people who throw our pets to get blasted by Snowy and keep them at Fleapit Motel to get their daily rations (if at all). We're still not considered bad owners.


Anyhow, I second the notion that you should have a custom design. And an amazing one at that. Xwees are extrodinarily popular at the moment, and the pirate Xwee is completely new (and is one of the most expensive colors there is!)

I'm also not a huge fan of the multiple blogs. I think it's just a waste of space. It makes it look like less, too. And at that, the way the blogs are made, they don't really even look that great. Inwardly's new owner had an awesome creative idea with the multiple blogs, and that's why it was impressive. However, your blogs are... very plain and it looks horrible with the text not filling out the whole blog and the scrollbars all over the place. If you want to stick with the basic multiple blog idea you have, you should redo them so that they're just plain blogs, and use floating images with the Xwee poses on top (so that the text moves behind the image). Stick to your idea if you wish, but make more out of it. And while we're on the issue of the pictures... I don't like it when people use default pictures and poses. That might cut it for some plain colored Xwee, but not for a pirate.

And it definitely needs art. On the application and not on some seperate pet page (and as already commented, your art does not look very original. Very CaP-ish/referenced). Draw your own art for the app itself, too. It doesn't have to be good. It just shows effort (and even more if it's not neo poses). Like in the family section, draw your own pics. And break up the text in the story a bit. Getting other people to help you out with art is neither shameful nor effortless. Even if your art isn't that great, try it on your own.

I haven't read all of your story yet, but the idea souinds nice. I'd change the overall layout of the app though, so that it starts with him, and not you. Telling the owner that you dislike n00bs and rap is not much of a beginning, and makes you sound a bit n00bish yourself. Leave that away. Write more; write what you really enjoy doing in real life, and why.

Also write more about his personality (and once he has it) his design. It always looks good. What you have is a nice start, but it could be more. And why not add a whole section about the petpet? About the petpet's character, etc.

The screenies are a bit pointless, I think. Most people don't really care about the HP or food status, and anyone could have brushed their pets up nicely for a screenie. It would show more commitemnt if you actually added the pets there to you family section. And I don't see the point of the bank screenie either. It doesn't show you're rich or anything. Put the recommendations on the main app, too. It's just an unnecessary extra link.

Overall, I have the feeling that you're using the links section and the multiple blogs to make it look like more. But it really isn't that much. You need much more content if you really want to adopt Ayye. It's a nice start, but it needs more.

Sorry if that sounded harsh or something.

And you should listen to what ILJ has to say. It's true.


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Posted: Jan 6 2007, 06:00 PM


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The application looks great to me.
I second the notion that people can have great art, be great at roleplaying and still be a horrible owner.
My definition of a horrible owner is..A neopian that only cares about their pets for the looks..or they don't work at it to get their pet that 'supposedly' means a lot to them.
Numbfant does not display those characteristics.
So, is everyone agreeing that if you don't have the talent of drawing..you aren't a good owner?
I could never draw as good as numbfant even if I tried for years, but that doesn't mean that I don't care for my pets..I care for my pets, even if they are pixels.
I don't care for role-play because I think it's a waste of time, and I'd rather give my pet a personality, or write a story.

There are not necessarily the correct things to do with a neopet. People have different expectations, and it doesn't all revolve around art and roleplay.
I personally think your art is great^^
And its your decision to do roleplay or not.
I could see if the owner of Ayye was for roleplay and wanted Ayye to be a part of it, then you would take it up or consider it.

What I'm trying to point out, is even though this is a suggestion forum. And this is the correct use. Putting people down, is not the definition of rating.
I'd like to see what your applications look like..

Now..to correctly rate your work! Even though I believe you have already sent it in.
I find your layout very impressive, and I believe that extra links is a positive thing, it shows that you've worked even above and beyond what most would do.
And shown in the posts above this, they've said it looks like you're trying to make it look like more, but a crowded page is not a happy page dry.gif
Same with stories, if you take the time to write a good story, it shows that you will care for your pet, and that you believe in caring for them even if they are pixels.
The font change was good, even though I did not see it before, I love the font =)

And I like the thing about your kougra family ..[[they are adorable]]
Just like to say, overall I love your application!
And I truly hope Ayye becomes part of your loving family happy.gif
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To be honest it looks like you've copied the layout from the application you chose to adopt inwardly. =/


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This topic boggles my mind because I own Tafq and Ayye now. xD I was reading this wondering if I posted this in 2007, but I realized I did a neomail application for Ayye and that I was pretty sure I didn't own Tafq in 2007. o.o But wow, this really made me giggle. Small world I guess. xD


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