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 Neopound On-neo Uc & Name Page, Adoption and Trade
 
What should be the purpose of this new page? (See below for details)
Adoption only -- both names and UCs [ 8 ]  [66.67%]
Adoption only -- names only [ 1 ]  [8.33%]
Adoption and Trade -- Both Names and UCs [ 3 ]  [25.00%]
Adoption and Trade -- Names only (note: trading restricted to RW/RN) [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
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Umbra
Posted on May 27 2012, 03:37 AM


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This is going to be Neopound's new UC and Name Adoption and Trade Database... or something like that. You guys get to let me know what you want it to be. =D


That's what I have for now. I set up the adoption aspect of it, and listed some pets from the main database already, and I'm working on deciding how I want to do the trading database.

One option is that I could set up a relatively easy to manage system where anyone could list their pets and all pet listings from non-Neopound forum/guild members will be automatically deleted after two weeks or something. For active forum members, I could leave their listing up so long as they keep their trade topic up to date. And I would work something out for guild members.

Another is that I could only allow Neopound members to list UFT pets. The reason for this is kind of twofold. First, my page layout isn't set up to easily show a huge volume of pets. Allowing only Neopound member listings would work better for the layout style, I think.
And I think it would put more of a premium on being an active forum/guild member, because it's an extra on-site benefit.

If I did members only I might be more lax with what can be listed too. (VWN painted pets included too or something, instead of RW/RN only for the trading section)


Potential concerns about the trading section:
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I was somewhat concerned about the UFT part, which is why it is limited to UCs and RW/RN.
The UFA section also allows for VWN basics that wouldn't make it to the normal database [note: hence why it is a 'name' database].

I'm not overly concerned about updating time, because I've experienced it before with regard to a adoption agency I used to run (this was before I joined staff at Neopound). However, I do see your point about the UFT pets.

I'll probably have set dates at least two or three times a month when I update everything. I'll definitely be able to track adoptions better because I'm probably tracking them somewhat already anyway if it's a fancy pet at least. *stalker-loser*
But, yeah. I can format the page so that it should be clear if a pet has been traded off (ex: I list the account the pet was on when it was added and tell people to make sure it's still on the same account before they mail the contact owner; this will also help me check quickly which pets have been traded and need removing).

And, if the trading section does become too difficult to manage, I can always just scale back on what I allow in or even cut it down to an adoption database and discontinue the trading database, if I think it would be necessary.

I was just thinking this would expand the usefulness of the page. I guess there are other pages already on Neo that list UCs that are UFA/T (and there are also pages already that do trade and pages already that do RW/RN/short names). So perhaps combining them is a bit ambitious, but I wanted to give it a try, since they are all sections that I've wanted to see on Neopound but we haven't been able to really do.

(quoted from my response when I was talking with Dorothy)


The reason for possibly limiting it to names only rather than names and UCs is that the main focus of the page was actually intended to be a place where VWN basics could be listed on NeoPound and be a resource for people looking to adopt (and maybe trade for) VWN pets and such. Plus, all UCs can be listed on the main database anyway. And UCs even how their own section there.


Let me know what you think would be useful?


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Umbra
Posted on May 27 2012, 06:00 AM


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Hm... My poll is kind of fail. The plan was to restrict names to RW/RN for trading listings, whether we were doing UCs or not.
Also, I intentionally didn't include an option of whether the trade thing would be for Neopound members only or everyone, since that is something I'll probably be deciding for myself based on what I think would be manageable. However, like I said, if trading was Neopound members only, I'd probably allow more pets than just RW/RN and UCs for the trading section. The only reason for that limitation was that I was concerned about the volume of pets that would be listed UFT.
If you want to add your opinion about the Neopound only vs public trade issue, you can post, though. I'd be happy to take your opinions into consideration.


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Fate
Posted on May 28 2012, 04:45 AM


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I'm undecided on the poll at the moment so here's my (useless) opinions instead:

The UC UFA section is somewhat unnecessary since they do have their own sections on the neopound database. However, some people might appreciate it since they won't have to go offsite to see what UCs are UFA. And it's not as if there's a lot of UCs UFA anyway so I guess I'm for it? Super undecided though.

...and I don't know if I want Neopound to expand to trading.
If you do decide to include UFT pets though, I would probably go for the Names and UCs option since there's already a tradelist for UFT RW/RNs (/~Oolong)

So um yeah... I'm not very helpful with this one.
It looks great so far though and I can't wait to see it up and running.
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Heartless
Posted on May 28 2012, 12:50 PM


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i really hope neopound continues to stay adoption only

there are already a million and one trading database and trading is already such a big thing. all these have like a ten to one ration of pets uft as compared to ufa

i really like neopound for adoptions, if trading was allowed it would take over the agency just cuz most people trade now a days


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Posted on May 28 2012, 05:33 PM


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I'm thinkin' if I ever code a trading section (if I ever code a new Neopound... there's so much to learn), I'll make it so UFT pets are deleted after a week of being listed to keep it clean. :B People will have to "renew" their listing if they want the pet to show up again for another week.


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Umbra
Posted on May 28 2012, 06:19 PM


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QUOTE (Fate @ May 27 2012, 11:45 PM)
I'm undecided on the poll at the moment so here's my (useless) opinions instead:

The UC UFA section is somewhat unnecessary since they do have their own sections on the neopound database. However, some people might appreciate it since they won't have to go offsite to see what UCs are UFA. And it's not as if there's a lot of UCs UFA anyway so I guess I'm for it? Super undecided though.

...and I don't know if I want Neopound to expand to trading.
If you do decide to include UFT pets though, I would probably go for the Names and UCs option since there's already a tradelist for UFT RW/RNs (/~Oolong)

So um yeah... I'm not very helpful with this one.
It looks great so far though and I can't wait to see it up and running.

I agree with the UC section not really being necessary, but I thought it might be a nice bonus purpose of the page... for the reasons you stated.

Oolong's page does seem to cover it already. I knew there had to be a page for that somewhere. However, there are also UC Trade and Adoption databases...
/~dArtois (Trade only)
/~Ariahma (Adoption and Trade)
/~Dintwe (Adoption only)

That's another reason I was thinking perhaps for active NeoPound members only. There are already pages available for the Neopian public. And if it becomes an issue that we're excluding the public for our trading database, I could make an effort to affiliate with pages like those and redirect people to them.


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i really hope neopound continues to stay adoption only

there are already a million and one trading database and trading is already such a big thing. all these have like a ten to one ration of pets uft as compared to ufa

i really like neopound for adoptions, if trading was allowed it would take over the agency just cuz most people trade now a days

Another good point. Would you be opposed to the member-only trading section, as well? I was concerned about whether trading was something that the Neopound community would be interested in including. I mean, we already have a trading board here on the forum, so this might just serve as a more public way to advertise trade listings for Neopound members, if nothing else.


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Umbra
Posted on Jun 5 2012, 05:57 AM


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So... judging by the poll, some people want the page to be adoption only. I'd be happy to stick with that if only for the sake of NeoPound being an adoption database.
I think I'm going to go with that for now, just because I'd like to get this page up and running.
Feel free to post if you have anything more to say about the matter. And I might try to make some NeoPound boards on the PC starting tomorrow to announce our new page.


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