the lost s05 thred - spoilers up to current ep, click the above link

first 2 eps were pretty sweet, heres a gif i borrowed from sa

downloading as we speak. can't wait, tbh.

Damn, those episodes were... interesting. And good!

It seemed like the series took a real turn towards fantasy, even more than usual. Lots of time travel, magic island detectors, flaming arrow attacks (they couldn't have made it any more obvious that something was going to happen to that guy at that moment, but I did not expect flaming arrows.), 70 HOURS TO SAVE THE WORLD, plus the standard ghosts and people with super time powers.

I've been watching the first few seasons of Lost while I waited for season five to show up and this series is nothing like it was when it started. Shit those episodes had everything from people getting thrown off balconies and knives getting thrown into assholes, to food getting thrown near Ben.

i approve of this new season so far. crazy shit though, imho.

Seems like their plan was to reintroduce the whole mystery of the island and not knowing what is around you again - the factors that made Season 1 and parts of Season 2 great.

But then they want to mix that with with the developments of the show aswell as introducing the whole "We have to go back!" stuff.

Its a really really good mixture and Im probably wrong but I cant see how this kind of format is going to produce any filler episodes or anything. Seems like there are too many things going on for episodes with little plot advancement to exist.

I was not looking forward to the new season that much and thought the show would go down the wrong route and forget what made it great in previous seasons, but so far its prooved me wrong.

Just saw episode 5x03 - Jughead

It wasn't the best 42 minutes of television I've watched this year, but it wasn't bad either. The series is a lot better now it's moved past those damn flashbacks, and it was worth sitting through just to see young Charles Widmore smugly proclaiming that John Motherfucking Locke can't track him because he doesn't know the island.

It seems like the poor survivors of Oceanic 815 are getting whittled down to those with a destiny now. Sixteen of them were on the beach last episode, and it looks that half of them are probably now dead. But the story is moving way beyond a group of survivors trapped on an island now. With characters like Desmond, Daniel, Widmore and Alpert around, I can live without Paulos, Shannons, and Frogurts.

5x04 - The Little Prince

I wasn't expecting much from this episode. I definitely wasn't expecting motherfucking Jin and Danielle Rousseau to turn up at the last minute! Maybe he can slip a note into her coat pocket telling her to wear a bulletproof vest.

Overall that was a pretty good episode. The island bits were all good, full of mystery and intrigue, and the LA bits got the mystery of who wanted Kate's kid out the way reasonably quickly, and with a logical answer (Ben did it... and he admits it... and he is possibly very soon to be executed for his sins.) Miles getting the sickness second would seem to hint very strongly that he's Dr Chang's son, which works for me. I'm happier when the supernatural events are definitely caused in some way by the island.

5x05 - This Place is Death

Not a bad episode, though it wasn't an all time classic. Nice to have some extra clues about the monster and the sickness, adventures with ropes and time, and poor Ben finally getting sick of no one appreciating him. The big reveal at the end was a little weird though, it was played up to be a big thing but it's been fairly well hinted at already that Eloise was Daniel's mother. He even named his rat after her...

Getting back to good form.

5x06 - 316

Not a great episode I thought. It had it's moments but overall it was pretty slow. It introduced a lot of new mysteries, but most of them were just things like 'what happened to Aaron, why is Sayid in chains... on his way to Guam, why is Ben covered in blood, is Penny still alive, what was the point in Desmond's mad race around the world to see Ms Hawking anyway?' It was nice to see the time jumps take the place of the Swan station incident in bringing them to the island, pretty dark that they were trying to (as far as they knew) instigate a plane crash though. No one seemed too concerned about it either, except for Hurley, and even he didn't manage to clear the whole plane. And even if they had bought all the seats they'd still be sacrificing the flight crew. Assholes.

What's really creepy though, is if you were to plot all my episode ratings for this season on to a graph, it'd look just like the flight path of a plane crashing onto an island

yep it was a pretty dumb ep all around but at least they got it over with. rest of seasons gonna own

this makes me sad. I actually really liked 316. Mind you I was supposed to be in bed, asleep multiple hours before I watched it and was probably not 100% with it because of me being so tired.

Considering the fact that Dajhail picked up on a lot more things that I didn't....im assuming that was the case. heh.


I have a lot of things floating in my head right now, but I'm going to keep them under wraps until the next episode because me being spoilerish makes for an angry Dajhail.

5x07 - The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham

After last week I was a little concerned about how this would turn out, but I liked it. After all Locke's badassery so far this season he really didn't achieve much of anything off island, but I found myself sympathizing with him much more than usual. For the last four years, Locke has come across to me as the crazy selfish bastard of the island, not really caring about anyone else unless it helps him and the island in some way and only ever telling people what he needs to manipulate them. But in this he was entirely honest and decent. He didn't rant at anyone, drug them, throw knives in their back. He only went to see Walt because he cared, and he actually stayed away from Sun despite being told he had to bring her back.

* Locke's alive (and still in the present), and so is everyone else from the plane pretty much as Frank is only pilot on Earth skilled enough to land things on that damn island. I can imagine that Locke is a little confused why his friends decided to bring down an airliner full of people onto the island just to get back, then disappear off the plane before it even lands. Or maybe he's just feeling left out that he's not allowed to go time travelling with the Oceanic survivors any more.

* Ben and Widmore trade places on the scales of good and evil. Which is to say that Ben is now probably an evil manipulative bastard, and Widmore is probably an evil manipulative bastard too, only less so. I guess Widmore directly preceeded Ben as leader of the Others, and is the one who started the purge that killed the Dharma Initiative. Which happened, by coincidence, around the time Jack, Sawyer and the others are trapped in.

* Abaddon died! I honestly did not see that coming at all.

* It's getting very hard for me to sympathise with Jack and Kate now. I understand that poor Jack is alone and on drugs to stop his 'hallucinations' at that point, and Kate is struggling to bring up Aaron on her own, and that they're traumatised by their time on the island, but damn...

actually im pretty sure that the purge happened sometime in the 90s and time travel krew is currently in the 70s, according to the captions on the rerun of 316 last night. hope this helps

Really?

Damn, that's taken all the danger out of it. They can just relax in the DI for 20 years now, with all the Dharma beer they can drink, driving around in Dharma vans, and pestering Alpert.

Seems that those who use the donkey wheel are 'reset' into real time and dropped off at the opposite side of the world. Locke and Ben weren't taken by the flash on flight 316 for this reason.

Ben killed Locke because he wants to go back to the island. It was the mention of Miss Hawking that triggered the switch, my thoughts are that Ben wanted to be the go-between and when he realised that Locke could actually do this without him, he killed Locke so as not to run that risk. In fairness, he DOES bring Locke back to the island. It's another one of those almost 50/50 good/bad decisions that Ben takes on alot, with some deeper rationale that always adds up but leaves a bitter taste in ones mouth.

Thought it was quite convenient that, at his lowest moment, Locke was ready and willing to give up as much information as possible. Ben must have been thinking its his birthday. Jin's alive? Aha, what will Sun say! He doesnt want Sun to come back? Ill need some leverage. He gave you his wedding ring? You're dead mango, fish!

Im pretty stoned but it strikes me now more than ever that Lost is so appropriately named as a show. Thinking generally about the paths these characters have taken and looking at where they are likely to lead, everyone is lost in their own way.

If the still-Losties are in 70s times, there are to be plenty of satisfying treats heading our way. See Kate raising white horse pup, Faraday installing swan button system, DI polar bears and rabbits pairing off in a casimir-showdown! And perhaps something a bit more farfetched... Locke's father, a DHARMA man?

Stay High

I think it's more of a 100% bad decision in this case. Ben does bring Locke's body back to the island, but the way he said he'd miss him makes me think he had no idea he'd come back to life. He just wanted to increase his chances that the plane would make an unscheduled landing on the island.

Also Locke was pretty forthcoming to everyone in that episode. He was nothing less than honest and open for the whole thing for a change. Well, apart from neglecting to mention Widmore's involvement and Michael's probable death.

Is Locke the new Christian? I dont mean in the sense of a replacement, more that these time games cause 'cycles' of visitors to come and go. Locke died in that hotel apartment. He is as firmly dead as Jacks father.

If Christian was involved with the island before, perhaps having been to it, it would be a nice prelude to the drink problem. When Jack gets back to LA as part of the O6 he goes off the rails, would be a nice father-son parallel.

Perhaps Christian cannot go and hang out with Jack during earlier seasons because of some technicality regarding timeline correction and constants. In which case, I get the feeling Locke wont be seeing the O6 again. Just evidence of their influence on the island from the past.

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This post has been edited by Daniel on Mar 2 2009, 12:54 AM

I'm always amazed by Locke's scar makeup, it's entirely convincing.

Though they could have gave him a matching one on the other eye after his second place crash.