Site Update - Elements, What, another one?!

You may recall that there was some amount of discussion about Fusion Elements, the paring down thereof, and how to go about reconciling them without leaving the door open to allow the list to continue to bloat while only applying each element to a small handful of Digimon.

We came to a decision.


What This Means

The Fusion wheel has been deconstructed and replaced with the Augmentation Wheel. What this means is that, when a Digimon reaches Ultimate level and are of a base element, they are capable of choosing a secondary element to complement the first. The benefits of both of these elements will be taken into consideration for damage calculation purposes, and the Digimon's element will change to be dual-elemental (thus, what was previously a Celestial Digimon will become Fire/Holy, etc.)

Additionally, if a Digimon wishes to complement the element with itself, this is also possible; a Fire/Fire Digimon will basically be a Fire elemental but moreso, gaining double the benefits of a Fire element Digimon.

Attacks may also take dual-elemental properties (again, a previously Celestial attack will now deal Fire/Holy damage).

Additionally, an Advanced Wheel has been introduced. These elements are somewhat similar to the Upper Wheel, but, rather than requiring an RP sample or dedicated work (as with Dragon, Soul, and Vortex), the Upper Wheel is unlocked the same way the Augment Wheel is, by reaching Ultimate level.

As such, on reaching Ultimate Level, you are presented with a choice; you may either create an Augmented Digimon, or an Advanced Digimon (or stick to your guns, but there's no reason not to accept the power boost from doubling up on an element if you so desire).

The Upper Wheel and Advanced Wheel are not compatible with Augmentation. Augmented Digimon are only capable of utilizing the Basic Wheel elements.



Other Changes

All elemental drawbacks have been removed. Any drawbacks for an individual Digimon will be listed on that Digimon's profile.

Elemental bonuses have been changed to be percentage-based. Several bonuses on higher-level elements have been reduced or brought in line with equivalent elements. Many benefits have also changed or been added to provide more color to individual elements, and provide more choices, either in combat utility or RP-wise.

To accommodate for the new addition of the Advanced Wheel, a few new Infusion Elements have been added to the list. Specifically:

Undead Digimon become Death Elemental
Mage Digimon become Archmage Elemental
Machine Digimon become Techno Elemental (renamed Apocalypse)
Origin Digimon become Genesis Digimon

Wyrm, Weaver, and Wyld elemental can now only be obtained through Dragon, Soul, and Vortex Digimon, respectively.

Mythic and Time elemental Digimon now have significantly more options as elemental evolutions, in order to open them up to more Digimon. Additionally, a third tier two infusion, Primal, has been added to accommodate the full range of Infusion elements.

Second Tier Infusions still aren't available. But when they are, their benefits will stack with the previous Infusion's benefits, rather than overriding them completely. As such, a second-tier Infusion Digimon will have an elemental title similar to 'Primal (base Genesis)' or something similar.

Affecting very few individuals, but Forbidden Wheel defensive benefits have been drastically reduced, from 50% damage reduction from base wheel attacks to 25% damage reduction. This effects precisely two people, but one of them is very important. (It's me. I'm the important one.)


What Does This Mean For You

If you previously had a Fusion wheel Digimon, or Fusion wheel attacks, they will be split into their component elements; Deep elemental Digimon will be returned to Water/Dark, Celestial to Fire/Holy, etc. Attacks utilizing the Fusion Wheel will be similarly modified down.

If you have a preference for Digimon elementals, or would like to change what elements your previous Fusion breaks down into (if sensible), post here and we'll attend to the alterations.

If your Digimon was previously an elemental that would be sensible as shifting to one of the Advanced Elements, please say so, and that will be done instead of breaking down the fusion types.

The only exception to this, as previously discussed, is the Spirit of Astral, which will keep its fancy title. Its benefits have not been altered by this transition (they are, and will remain, equivalent to Dragon).



Profile damages will be recalculated across the board in order to accommodate for the different benefit calculation. This will not, however, be occurring immediately, due to another alteration that will ideally be pressing through in the foreseeable future.


Questions? Anything I missed?
stuff it
Post here and I'll answer any inquiries or address any concerns that may arise.



Oh, also. MASSIVE THANKS to Twi for putting the vast majority of this together and somehow interpreting my vague, rambly directions in a way that makes me happy.

Question/Request:

Can different stages of a digimon still have different elementals?

If so, could Mikey be Water-Water in all of his stages?
except Domikimon, which would be Water-Holy,
Archnikimon, which would be Water-Darkness,
and his armor form, which would be Water-Fire

Yes.

Damn it, you cut me off at the pass. I didn't know I had that degree of immunity--I definitely haven't been using it. Although we do have one issue; since Mage Element provides Elemental Mastery inherently, does that mean I should design a new Passive Effect, since it's now redundant?

This post has been edited by Grim Wolf on May 6 2012, 09:13 PM

You mean Magical Nature? Elemental Mastery only provides for channelling, not altering attack programs, so Caster's Passive still serves a purpose in a stat-based battle.

Don't you mean "Untapped Wheel"?

Your pedantry is most appreciated, Ancient.

Gonna be honest, I consistently forgot about it, too. And by 'consistently forgot' I really do mean 'never remembered'.

I actually glad that it's not just Wyrm, Weaver and Wyld that can take the 2nd step.

But if I read that correctly...I you choose 1, you're stuck with it. Like, if I chose to have Haruhi become a Primal element, that's what I'm stuck to. No Mythic/Time.

Does Non-Elemental take reduced damage from Agumented Wheel attacks that are comprised solely of ower/Upper Wheel Elementals?

Because the Agumented Wheel is not mentioned in the Non-Elemental description.

Also, I'm guessing you can't make Non-Elemental Agumented. Being Fire-Non-Elemental makes no sense, after all, because by being a Fire Elemental... you're not Non-elemental. [Although maybe doubleing up on Non-Elemental is plausable]

This post has been edited by TheAgent on May 8 2012, 03:01 PM

We still use the damages that are currently on our profiles during combat logs until they change right? Cuz i was thinkin about maybe posting a combat or two later in the week. or maybe tonight. sometime

Correct. This has always been the intention, actually; there's nothing new about only being allowed one Digimon to get their second-tier infusion.

(Your other Digimon need more love, by the way. Always Haruhi getting special power-ups...)

Augmented attacks will be treated as their base components, so in this situation, a non-elemental Digimon will take a -25% damage reduction from such attacks.

And no, non-elemental Digimon can't be augmented, and they can't be doubly non-elemental. Their damage reduction bonus is made significantly higher to compensate for their inability to be augmented or gain a higher-element infusion.

Correct.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I intend to go Machine when I hit Ultimate anyway [It is a Gizmon], but it wasn't made clear on the page.

I'm working on that...


Hey...something just crossed my mind. Could Undead Elements not only be bound so something, but also some ONE? (like an Undead digimon constantly following a Beelzebumon, no matter where he went on the island?)

Cuz it would seem interesting to be having a normal conversation with a certain digimon that appears to be normal, and then an Undead appears, scares the heck out of you, and then it vanishes. Then everyone is wondering "what the heck just happened?" and the digimon is either "Oh, that's just a buddy of mine. He's cool." or "HE'S THIS DEMON WHO'S BEEN FOLLOWING ME NON-STOP FOR THE PAST MONTH!! PLEASE HELP MAKE HIM GO AWAY!!"

At which point, with the second one, you'd become a ghostbuster.

When I spoke of being "bound" to a location, basically think of it in terms of a ghost haunting a house, or a mummy guarding its tomb. So, yes, you could have an Undead Digimon, by their own choice or otherwise, haunting/possessing an individual too.

Keep in mind, though, that something like a demon would be much more likely to be Darkness than Undead.

.....Now knowing that, I just came up with an idea for Able (since you said you were going to do Cain and Able).

Able was suppose to be Kikota's second digimon, but an event took place that wound up killing him. Despite this, Able's drive to protect Kikota was very powerful, thus transforming him into an Undead. At the moment he is bound to the location where he died, but when Kikota passes by, Able jumps at the chance to fulfill his duty and rushes to Kikota's side. At that point he becomes Kikota's third digimon and is unable to leave Kikota for fear that he will once again fail his duty.

Plus being an Undead could create interesting scenes between Cain and Able.

Just a thought.

This post has been edited by warriorjames on May 11 2012, 02:24 PM