Cops Are Liars, A.C.A.B.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article...false-testimony


This isn't a few bad apples. Its all the fucking time. Makes me sick.

^^^ Makes you money right?

...not good, but I'm not terribly surprised.

That article definitely says cops are liars, but it equally implies that Asians are drug dealers and black people carry guns. :lol:

The message there is it's harder to convict criminals than it is to be a criminal and we shouldn't trust police to do their jobs properly now that it's become harder than the average immoral idiot can handle and judges feel sporadically compelled to be particular and airy.

Get on your skull shirts, lads. :crazy:

Edit: I love that last illustrative paragraph where the gun-toting drug dealer that was let free addresses the judge who found the evidence as inadmissable as "miss". It's frightening that between the judge, the lawyer, the cop and the killer himself, if this guy goes on to misfire and kill a kid in a robbery gone wrong, none of them will have trouble sleeping at night. That's the system we depend on to protect society: comprised of the desensitized to the point it's morally and conscientiously abject by design.

This post has been edited by ThisIsAnfield on Apr 27 2012, 10:52 AM

'Miss' is a common term of address, not quite as appropriate as 'Your Honour' perhaps but quite acceptable (wait, are you assuming the judge was a man?)

Maybe the judge and the lawyer will have difficulty sleeping, who knows. But they would have greater cause for unease if they failed to uphold the rule of law. They are not 'desensitized'. On the contrary, they are deeply aware of the serious role they play in a democratic society. It is the police alone who fail to understand their role, or are simply too inept to perform it.

"The dishonesty comes with little consequence to the officer, particularly in provinces such as Ontario where there is no law or policy requiring a prosecutor or police force to investigate the courtroom conduct."

Wow. If I lied to a government agent in my job I would be sacked, fined, and stripped of my qualifications.

'Miss' is a common term of address, not quite as appropriate as 'Your Honour' perhaps but quite acceptable (wait, are you assuming the judge was a man?)

Maybe the judge and the lawyer will have difficulty sleeping, who knows. But they would have greater cause for unease if they failed to uphold the rule of law. They are not 'desensitized'. On the contrary, they are deeply aware of the serious role they play in a democratic society. It is the police alone who fail to understand their role, or are simply too inept to perform it.

"The dishonesty comes with little consequence to the officer, particularly in provinces such as Ontario where there is no law or policy requiring a prosecutor or police force to investigate the courtroom conduct."

Wow. If I lied to a government agent in my job I would be sacked, fined, and stripped of my qualifications.

A lot of the police will pull the whole "thin blue line" routine and back each other up no matter what, despite the fact that inapropriate measures taken when apprehending suspects undermines public confidence in the police not to mention the ability to convict criminals.

There seems to be a culture of "I'm stopping a bad guy so the ends justify the means" that a LOT (not all by any means) of cops share, which leads to wrongful arrests, racial profiling and harrassment, etc. It ultimately undermines their job and their ability to do it effectively. Due process is also what ensures our freedoms.

FWIW Judges in the states are called 'your honor' (sic).... here and in the UK the correct term is 'your worship'....


Also Ive kinda known they make up reasons after the fact for pulling you over for at least 20 years now... Got pulled over one night on my bike and had oppotunity to look at the copcar computer which showed that I had been once pulled over ( but not ticketed) for 'failure to yield'... Ive been pulled over plenty of times but never had I even been given a verbal warning for failure to yield... I called the cop out on that and said that was a load of bullshit and no wonder people think you are a bunch of lying pigs.... cops werent too impressed but knew I was right and couldnt do fuckall about it as I had 20 odd witnesses there....

This post has been edited by ontarioiron on Apr 27 2012, 02:54 PM

My point was that while enjoying the benefits of the rigid intricacies of a legal system that saw his obvious guilt negated, he failed to observe one of the most simple tenets of that system in addressing her with the appropriate respect our democratic society has afforded those tasked with upholding the rule of law.

On a separate note, I assume we're not far off from a society that in the future obliges it's police to return these illegally seized guns and drugs to the "victims" of these illegal seizures, right? :facepalm:

I'm not slamming the fact that the system is flawed from a personal level as I often celebrate it's inadequacies that saw me personally beat 11 charges since I turned 18 years of age. I wouldn't have my job or the clean stringent criminal vulnerable persons record search for my volunteering positions I do if we had less loopholes and a hope in hell of a higher conviction rate.

I for one love a country that allows someone the option of alternative measures for their first gun or rape charge, for instance. (Now I'm being flippantly facetious again.) I regularly see today's youth firsthand and know they're all gonna have to knock out a few serious federal crimes before they mature to be the organized and efficient criminals our society demands most of us be these days. ;)

I just think it's unfair to blame guys and girls that need 8 months of schooling and some mild physical capability the average overweight and out of shape Canadian can't muster as well as a flair for composure during confrontation of varying degrees of intensity that so very few people in today's world of no eye-contact and SMS relationships can muster for all the failings of a shoddy legal system they are the very bottom rung of. (Worst run on sentence ever? :P )

It's like blaming the customer service rep. at Rogers for your phone not receiving voicemail messages when there are dozens of better trained, more capable and better compensated folks in the organization worthy of that ire.

That being said, anyone that knows me, particularly my mum and my grrl, would see their own asses after their heads spun reading my somewhat stirred defense of those I have sought to denigrate, ridicule, antagonise and disparage at every opportunity since I turned 11. ACAB maybe, ACAUselessandExcitableB, indeed.