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Title: 2012 Blue Jays
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ColinTFC - January 19, 2012 12:05 AM (GMT)
The old thread was just that... so 2011. B-)

Now in 2012 can we better than a 500 team?

Given idiots like C Kelly have said we're "the same as last year", some would think not.

I am more optimistic at this point, but dammit I want them to open the purse strings a bit.

Here's to another year (and another thread) of Blue Jay baseball! :wub:

north york - January 24, 2012 01:41 AM (GMT)
Did anybody happen to buy an extra Blue Jays Season Pass that they'd consider selling? I missed T's post on the 2011 thread and fully missed out and am cursing myself for not staying informed on it.

ColinTFC - January 25, 2012 12:12 AM (GMT)
Fielder a Tiger? Good on Detroit.

Should help with the big hole left by Martinez's injury.

I'm going to make it back to Comerica at some point again this year.

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ColinTFC - February 1, 2012 03:01 AM (GMT)
At the Blue Jay State of the Union address some were "very intrigued by Beeston's assertion about a grass playing surface, which he believes would still leave the Rogers Centre open to holding other events, though it "would necessitate the Rogers Centre being configured as a full-time baseball stadium, Beeston said, which would not be good news for another building tenant, the Toronto Argonauts. The Argosí lease expires after the 2012 CFL season." (drunkjaysfans.com)

I don't think I can handle more speculation about the Argos playing at BMO.

However, I would LOVE to see the Jays play on grass like our dear football club does.

Heepster - February 4, 2012 07:53 PM (GMT)
They also often have soccer friendlies once or twice a summer, and one or two NFL Buffalo Bills games a year, including a pre-season game this year (likely in August), that require moving the 100 level stands, though that arrangement may not be renewed beyond 2012. I suppose it all depends on whether Rogers thinks installing grass for April to October is worth losing all or most other events during that time every year. While it could potentially leave the Argos looking for somewhere else to play, I'll assume the writer of this article simply doesn't understand that BMO Field is not suitable for the CFL without a large amount of expensive rebuilding that would make it a worse venue for MLSE and the CSA.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...ws_mlb&c_id=mlb

If the Argos were willing and able to spend that kind of money, they would probably build something new elsewhere in the GTA.

Johnny - February 5, 2012 06:00 PM (GMT)
I am still a bit concerned about our pitching. I am hoping Dustin McGowan can come back and be a good 3-4th starter. I am looking forward to a full year of Brett Lawrie at 3rd. I think he's the real deal.

ColinTFC - February 17, 2012 03:44 AM (GMT)
Gary Carter dead?

Wow I am getting old.

With the Pearson cup being a highlight in the early years, I was never much of an Expos fan myself. However, there was no doubt that this guy got the job done between the lines. Brain cancer finally got him.

RIP

marktci - February 17, 2012 04:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 16 2012, 10:44 PM)
Gary Carter dead?

Wow I am getting old.

With the Pearson cup being a highlight in the early years, I was never much of an Expos fan myself. However, there was no doubt that this guy got the job done between the lines. Brain cancer finally got him.

RIP

Well said. I still remember listening to the Blue Monday game on a schoolbus. I have a soft spot for the Expos.

Great post on Deadspin today. Watch the linked video (with bonus Harry Caray).

GaryJambo - February 17, 2012 01:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (marktci @ Feb 17 2012, 12:22 AM)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 16 2012, 10:44 PM)
Gary Carter dead?

Wow I am getting old.

With the Pearson cup being a highlight in the early years, I was never much of an Expos fan myself. However, there was no doubt that this guy got the job done between the lines. Brain cancer finally got him.

RIP

Well said. I still remember listening to the Blue Monday game on a schoolbus. I have a soft spot for the Expos.

Great post on Deadspin today. Watch the linked video (with bonus Harry Caray).

Great bit of footage. I went to Cooperstown for Carter's induction into the Hall of Fame. That was kind of a bittersweet moment. This is tough to take.

ColinTFC - February 18, 2012 01:35 AM (GMT)
Something a little lighter.

Seeing Roberto Alomar get pranked

You can really see him start to get annoyed with the questions++

Good stuff.

ColinTFC - February 18, 2012 01:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (GaryJambo @ Feb 17 2012, 09:53 AM)
Great bit of footage. I went to Cooperstown for Carter's induction into the Hall of Fame. That was kind of a bittersweet moment. This is tough to take.

Amazing clip indeed. Seems like yesterday.

I'll be talking to you about Cooperstown Gary. That must have been something else.

ColinTFC - February 20, 2012 03:28 PM (GMT)
This is what Brando saw yesterday as the Habs honoured Carter...

and it was well done.

GaryJambo - February 20, 2012 08:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 20 2012, 11:28 AM)
This is what Brando saw yesterday as the Habs honoured Carter...

and it was well done.

Well done, indeed. An excellent tribute. Nice job, Montreal.

ColinTFC - March 1, 2012 12:39 AM (GMT)
An extra wild-card team? :wub:

Finally!

It will still be a tough go, but meaningful games in September would be sweet!

I would still overhaul a lot of things if I was the Commish for a day, but this is good, given the current divisional structure++.

marktci - March 1, 2012 12:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 29 2012, 07:39 PM)
An extra wild-card team? :wub:

Finally!

It will still be a tough go, but meaningful games in September would be sweet!

I would still overhaul a lot of things if I was the Commish for a day, but this is good, given the current divisional structure++.

Not sure how I feel about it.

Saw a stat today that said this system would have resulted in one post-season appearance for the Jays (1998) since the strike.

north york - March 1, 2012 12:48 AM (GMT)
1 more than what we had.

ColinTFC - March 1, 2012 12:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (marktci @ Feb 29 2012, 08:43 PM)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 29 2012, 07:39 PM)
An extra wild-card team?  :wub:

Finally!

It will still be a tough go, but meaningful games in September would be sweet!

I would still overhaul a lot of things if I was the Commish for a day, but this is good, given the current divisional structure++.

Not sure how I feel about it.

Saw a stat today that said this system would have resulted in one post-season appearance for the Jays (1998) since the strike.

Yes Mark, I understand the mixed feelings to a certain extent, but I've resigned myself to the fact that things done changed. Payroll inequities, different ownerships, tv deals, interest in the club++

If it is indeed a one and done deal, I think there will be some kinks for MLB to work out However, given the fact that we're stuck with the NYY and BOS (and a well run club like TB) I think this is the way we'll eventually get our foot in the door and bring some exciting/meaningful games back to Toronto.


ontarioiron - March 1, 2012 02:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 29 2012, 07:52 PM)
QUOTE (marktci @ Feb 29 2012, 08:43 PM)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 29 2012, 07:39 PM)
An extra wild-card team?† :wub:

Finally!

It will still be a tough go, but meaningful games in September would be sweet!

I would still overhaul a lot of things if I was the Commish for a day, but this is good, given the current divisional structure++.

Not sure how I feel about it.

Saw a stat today that said this system would have resulted in one post-season appearance for the Jays (1998) since the strike.

Yes Mark, I understand the mixed feelings to a certain extent, but I've resigned myself to the fact that things done changed. Payroll inequities, different ownerships, tv deals, interest in the club++

If it is indeed a one and done deal, I think there will be some kinks for MLB to work out However, given the fact that we're stuck with the NYY and BOS (and a well run club like TB) I think this is the way we'll eventually get our foot in the door and bring some exciting/meaningful games back to Toronto.

MLB should put the bosox and yanks in their own division and let them battle it out for one postseason spot each year hehe Would put a real twist into that rivalry and let all the other teams in the american league have an honest crack at the playoffs... 3 divison champs with the team with lowest win loss % at end of year having to play the winner of the bosox/yanks hehe so simple really....

Yes Im Peter Ing - March 1, 2012 02:07 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (marktci @ Feb 29 2012, 07:43 PM)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Feb 29 2012, 07:39 PM)
An extra wild-card team?  :wub:

Finally!

It will still be a tough go, but meaningful games in September would be sweet!

I would still overhaul a lot of things if I was the Commish for a day, but this is good, given the current divisional structure++.

Not sure how I feel about it.

Saw a stat today that said this system would have resulted in one post-season appearance for the Jays (1998) since the strike.

Like Colin said, though - what matters is not that we qualify, but that we compete. The second wildcard spot will at least provide the illusion of a playoff chase, meaning more butts in seats and, hey, maybe a payroll hike.

north york - March 1, 2012 02:42 AM (GMT)
The biggest mystery in sports to me is how Bud Selig can still be MLB Chief. It is mindboggling how screwed up this league and sport is because of this guy. Assbackwards while the rest of the major sports have moved forward (hockey withstanding).

Why the heck are there 162 games and only 10 playoff teams - two of which play each other in a one game playoff? Stupid.

Reduce the season and make 12-16 teams make the post season every year. Force the salary cap so I don't have to cry watching the Pirates' highlight reel every night. This sport dies within decades without some drastic changes. Who would've have thought the NBA would be bigger than MLB 30 years ago?

north york - April 5, 2012 09:56 PM (GMT)
This game was a complete dud until the 9th and has been quite exciting since. We're now in extra innings.

ColinTFC - April 6, 2012 01:09 AM (GMT)
:crazy: :crazy: one game out of a million, but I'll take it!

north york - April 6, 2012 04:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ColinTFC @ Apr 5 2012, 08:09 PM)
:crazy: :crazy: one game out of a million, but I'll take it!

That game made my day man!

I also really want to recommend watching the Sportsnet documentary Fair Ball that aired tonight. It's a 30 min piece about the Canadian little league baseball team from Langley that went to play the kids in Uganda who were denied the chance to play in the Little League World Series last year. Should've been an hour on its own.


north york - April 11, 2012 07:00 AM (GMT)
A solid win by the boys tonight. Should anybody be going to afternoon rubber match vs the Red Sox holla at your boy as Ken and I will be there causing ruckus.

Breakwood - April 11, 2012 12:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (north york @ Apr 11 2012, 02:00 AM)
A solid win by the boys tonight. Should anybody be going to afternoon rubber match vs the Red Sox holla at your boy as Ken and I will be there causing ruckus.

Im planning on heading down. send me a message on facebook or PM me your cell number.

hazman - April 11, 2012 01:36 PM (GMT)
Was hoping to make it this afternoon, but schedule changed and I can't make it.
Really wanted to ge to at least one of the afternoon games this season, but there are some more during the season.

I am loving the defensive shifts that Farrell is doing, moving Lawrie around to different spots and in the first game when they brought in Vizquel as an extra in-fielder with only 2 outfielders. Ballsy and Awesome!

I have high expectations and think that the team chemistry will be the key to success this season.


Also, anyone interested in sharing an MLB.tv subscription?
I have been looking at this for the last couple of weeks and the full price is a bit much, but apparently there is no problem in sharing the account.

I would be looking at getting it on a monthly basis, just as an insurance factor, in the event that you can no longer share an account, or my US IP service stops working. It's $24.99/month, so $12.50 if anyone wants to share with me.
Keep in mind that the Blue Jays games are blackout out, unless you have a service like unblock-us, which I have been using for a while and is fantastic. (but $5/month).

If interested let me know.

-Chris


Breakwood - April 30, 2012 04:29 PM (GMT)
I'm heading down tonight to see if Yu Darvish is really as good as everyone says. If anyone else is planning on going, give me a shout.

Breakwood - May 2, 2012 07:49 PM (GMT)
Series win over the best team in Baseball? Nice! :D I was expecting to get swept, so this is a very pleasant surprise.

hazman - May 2, 2012 08:01 PM (GMT)
The Lawrie walk-off HR last night and then another big win today is fantastic!!

It does get scary when we need to win in 9th or extra innnigs because of the closers.

morrison - May 2, 2012 08:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Breakwood @ Apr 30 2012, 12:29 PM)
I'm heading down tonight to see if Yu Darvish is really as good as everyone says. If anyone else is planning on going, give me a shout.

I was actually there, but didn't see your post until just now.
I guess I saw the most futile of the 3 games in the series.
Such luck for the first time attending a Jays game in 3 years.

north york - May 3, 2012 03:39 PM (GMT)
^^^ Lol I was at the Darvish game too. That was hard to watch. But we definitely need Duane Ward to hit a time machine if we have any playoff aspirations. We could easily be 1st in the East right now had the 6 blown saves had not happened.

KenFrom225 - November 20, 2012 01:32 PM (GMT)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

jaahuuu - November 20, 2012 02:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (KenFrom225 @ Nov 20 2012, 09:32 AM)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

Melky Cabrera signed - 2 years, $16 million

Maicer Izturis signed - 3 years, $9 million

John Farrell & David Carpenter traded to Red Sox for Mike Aviles

Torey Lovullo to Red Sox as bench coach

Brian Butterfield to Red Sox as 3B coach

John Gibbons hired as new manager (not officially announced yet)

Henderson Alvarez, Justin Nicolino, Jake Marisnick, Yunel Escobar, Adeiny Hechavarria, Jeff Mathis & Anthony Desclafani traded to Marlins for Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, Jose Reyes, Emilio Bonifacio & John Buck. The Jays also got $4 million cash in this trade.

mtroads - November 20, 2012 02:42 PM (GMT)
Aviles got flipped to the Indians with Yan Gomes for relief pitcher Esmil Rogers.

Rudi - November 20, 2012 03:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (KenFrom225 @ Nov 20 2012, 08:32 AM)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

I think I'm the only one who caught the sarcasm in this post.

GaryJambo - November 20, 2012 03:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rudi @ Nov 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE (KenFrom225 @ Nov 20 2012, 08:32 AM)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

I think I'm the only one who caught the sarcasm in this post.

Nope.

So has AA undone all his good work by hiring Gibby? Or is the 3 to 5 games a manager is worth not an issue? (Answers double-spaced on foolscap, show your work.)

tDoB - November 20, 2012 04:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GaryJambo @ Nov 20 2012, 11:58 AM)
QUOTE (Rudi @ Nov 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE (KenFrom225 @ Nov 20 2012, 08:32 AM)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

I think I'm the only one who caught the sarcasm in this post.

Nope.

So has AA undone all his good work by hiring Gibby? Or is the 3 to 5 games a manager is worth not an issue? (Answers double-spaced on foolscap, show your work.)

I dont think Gibby is a bad hire at all. He proved he takes no shit in the locker room which is what the media killed John Farrell for. Everyone says how good Gibson is at managing a bullpen which is something in my opinion Mr Farrell didn't do very well and what costs teams the most games.

I was shocked at the announcement but after letting it sink in I really don't mind it at all. Boomhauer is back!

TFCtoMUFC - November 20, 2012 04:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GaryJambo @ Nov 20 2012, 11:58 AM)
QUOTE (Rudi @ Nov 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE (KenFrom225 @ Nov 20 2012, 08:32 AM)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

I think I'm the only one who caught the sarcasm in this post.

Nope.

So has AA undone all his good work by hiring Gibby? Or is the 3 to 5 games a manager is worth not an issue? (Answers double-spaced on foolscap, show your work.)

Gibbons was the right choice, and his job will ride on wins-losses this year. He's got the tools, time to use them.

Reasons:

1) He loves Toronto, and wants to manage the Jays. I remember when they fired him, and he seemed genuinely upset by that. Other than Cito, we haven't had a guy who seemed to genuinely love the city. We have the "disadvantage" of being the only Canadian team in Major League Baseball. Farrell was only here as a stepping stone, and frankly I'd rather someone who wants this job and is dedicated to it.

2) He's done well with a Blue Jays team that on paper wasn't this good. In '06, had the Tigers not won 90+ games for the wild card spot, we were essentially a playoff team. Gibbons got 87 wins out of a team that featured a rotation that wasn't this good, and had sub-par "stars" in an AL East that featured the Yankees and Red Sox in some of their best years. The Red Sox have dismantled their entire roster, and the Yankees aren't even close to as scary as they once were.

3) He doesn't take shit from anybody. Shea Hillenbrand was a known jerk in the clubhouse, and was pissed he wasn't playing and didn't want to DH so he refused to sit on the bench. I'm glad Gibbons cussed him out for that. The spat with Lilly wasn't two guys going at each other, it was two guys who love to win reaching their boiling point. Gibbons seems to be the perfect mix between a manager players love and one who won't take shit.

Yes Im Peter Ing - November 20, 2012 06:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (tDoB @ Nov 20 2012, 11:09 AM)
QUOTE (GaryJambo @ Nov 20 2012, 11:58 AM)
QUOTE (Rudi @ Nov 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE (KenFrom225 @ Nov 20 2012, 08:32 AM)
hey, with trying to wind down one job and find another, i haven't had a lot of time to catch up on much Blue Jays offseason news...did i miss anything?! i hear John Farrell might be considering the Boston job - any other reports of anything else interesting?!!?!

I think I'm the only one who caught the sarcasm in this post.

Nope.

So has AA undone all his good work by hiring Gibby? Or is the 3 to 5 games a manager is worth not an issue? (Answers double-spaced on foolscap, show your work.)

I dont think Gibby is a bad hire at all. He proved he takes no shit in the locker room which is what the media killed John Farrell for. Everyone says how good Gibson is at managing a bullpen which is something in my opinion Mr Farrell didn't do very well and what costs teams the most games.

I was shocked at the announcement but after letting it sink in I really don't mind it at all. Boomhauer is back!

All true. But his biggest asset may be his belief in getting the hell out of the way and letting his hitters do the job they're paid for - a rarity amongst this generation of tinker-taken managers whose only concern seems to be interfering just enough to establish plausible deniability when the shit hits the fan.*


* And over a long enough timeline, it always does. See: Francona, Terry.

ColinTFC - November 21, 2012 01:57 AM (GMT)
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:lol: B-)




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