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SweetOwnGoal - October 14, 2010 03:18 PM (GMT)
Soldeed once ruefully told me that it was hurtful that London's fifth best club doesn't have its own thread. He said "even City has one, why can't we?"

I agree. We should be respectful of those less fortunate than us.

So please support my Give Spurs Their Own Thread initiative.

I'll let the mods decide whether the topic is significant enough to warrant a thread. Do others think it is?

broton - October 14, 2010 03:30 PM (GMT)
The creation of a thread is a long and arduous process. One with many twists and turns. The red tape, and paperwork is almost insurmountable. While the undercurrent of apathy would need to be fought with a strong PR campaign to win the hearts and minds of this auspicious board.

Best of luck in this valiant and historic effort.

Sincerely,

Lord Roderic the Fifteenth.
Crown Prince of Jane Street



Dark Metal - October 14, 2010 07:45 PM (GMT)
Who?

Andre v2.0 - October 14, 2010 08:32 PM (GMT)
Wait, so this isn't the actual Spurs thread itself but a sort of 'meta' Spurs thread where we can discuss the merits of a non-existent thread? Awesome.

Finally someone with the philosophical where-with-all to acknowledge that indeed Tarski was correct, in that you need a meta-language to discuss language itself.

I applaud your understanding of this very fine nuance SOG. Others would weep at the concept of discussing if a thread should in fact be consummated for the purpose of discussion. I will do my very best to continue to discuss what actually isn't being discussed in a thread that at the moment fails to exist.


SweetOwnGoal - October 14, 2010 08:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 14 2010, 03:32 PM)
Wait, so this isn't the actual Spurs thread itself but a sort of 'meta' Spurs thread where we can discuss the merits of a non-existent thread? Awesome.

Finally someone with the philosophical where-with-all to acknowledge that indeed Tarski was correct, in that you need a meta-language to discuss language itself.

I applaud your understanding of this very fine nuance SOG. Others would weep at the concept of discussing if a thread should in fact be consummated for the purpose of discussion. I will do my very best to continue to discuss what actually isn't being discussed in a thread that at the moment fails to exist.

There is a Spurs thread?

Wow!

broton - October 14, 2010 08:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 14 2010, 03:32 PM)
Wait, so this isn't the actual Spurs thread itself but a sort of 'meta' Spurs thread where we can discuss the merits of a non-existent thread?  Awesome. 

Finally someone with the philosophical where-with-all to acknowledge that indeed Tarski was correct, in that you need a meta-language to discuss language itself.

I applaud your understanding of this very fine nuance SOG. Others would weep at the concept of discussing if a thread should in fact be consummated for the purpose of discussion.  I will do my very best to continue to discuss what actually isn't being discussed in a thread that at the moment fails to exist.

The Copenhagen interpretation of your post posits that it both exists and does not exist until someone reads it. Does that also apply to the theoretical possibility of a Spurs thread? Does it both exist and not exist without actually being created? Or does is exist by the shear fact that we are discussing it's possible existence? Would a multiple universe/dimensions or branching reality theory answer this?

-Rod

Andre v2.0 - October 14, 2010 08:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SweetOwnGoal @ Oct 14 2010, 03:47 PM)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 14 2010, 03:32 PM)
Wait, so this isn't the actual Spurs thread itself but a sort of 'meta' Spurs thread where we can discuss the merits of a non-existent thread?  Awesome. 

Finally someone with the philosophical where-with-all to acknowledge that indeed Tarski was correct, in that you need a meta-language to discuss language itself.

I applaud your understanding of this very fine nuance SOG. Others would weep at the concept of discussing if a thread should in fact be consummated for the purpose of discussion.  I will do my very best to continue to discuss what actually isn't being discussed in a thread that at the moment fails to exist.

There is a Spurs thread?

Wow!

No your doing it wrong.

If you want to 'speak' about the Spurs thread you have to put the words in brackets.

Your post should read:

(There's a Spurs thread?)


(Wow!)


Not to be a pedant, but the actual Spurs thread - which still has yet to come into existence I might add - has all discussion without the brackets. It's when you talk about the content of the Spurs thread that the brackets are required. It's just a logical way of keeping the discussion - that is the meta discussion, tidy.

As you were.

Andre v2.0 - October 14, 2010 09:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (broton @ Oct 14 2010, 03:51 PM)
The Copenhagen interpretation of your post posits that it both exists and does not exist until someone reads it. Does that also apply to the theoretical possibility of a Spurs thread? Does it both exist and not exist without actually being created? Or does is exist by the shear fact that we are discussing it's possible existence? Would a multiple universe/dimensions or branching reality theory answer this?

-Rod

Boy, even I'm a bit confused.

I thought this was the theoretical Spurs thread and not the real Spurs thread. The real Spurs thread, or that is if it should even exist at all, is still under discussion.

I'll try and answer some questions:

Maybe the Spurs thread at the moment is something like a genetic trait yet to be expressed. As potential it exists, sure, but a certain variety of factors need to be realized before it can come into being. So the ideality of said Spurs thread surely does exist - I don't think we'd be talking about if it did not - it's just a matter of determining if that ideal thread can express itself in some real form. This is the big question. This answer should answer a few of your questions.

The possibility of multiple universes can only be used to determine if it is logically true that a Spurs thread can indeed exist. If one possible universe can satisfy that condition, then the answer is yes. I will say though that I'm unsure if this universe can house a U-Sector board that contains both a proposal for a Spurs thread and a Spurs thread itself - one would have to be abandoned for the other, not on logical terms but rather to prevent a series of unintended headaches.

I will say this though, whenever or shall say 'if' the real Spurs thread ever drops, it will be the most anticipated thread in U Sector history.




GaryJambo - October 14, 2010 09:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 14 2010, 05:10 PM)


I will say this though, whenever or shall say 'if' the real Spurs thread ever drops, it will be the most anticipated thread in U Sector history.

(no, it won't be.)

Spurs fans can just continue talking about their club in the Arsenal thread, if the only interest appears to be from hatas.

Emigre - October 14, 2010 09:14 PM (GMT)
5th best club in London?? :lol:

broton - October 14, 2010 09:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 14 2010, 04:10 PM)
I thought this was the theoretical Spurs thread and not the real Spurs thread. The real Spurs thread, or that is if it should even exist at all, is still under discussion.

I'm with you there. The other posts which imply that an actual Spurs thread is a good thing, or a bad thing (or other banter) does not enter into it.

Can we ignore the fact that it may already exist? One could argued that an object could only exist when a person perceives it to exist, by using our five senses. An object, which is not perceived, does not in fact exist, and therefore matter as such does not exist. But delving into more elusive means... such as a multiple or branching universe the Spurs thread may very well exist on another plain and therefore would not need to be created again in this universe. And I'm sure another U-Sector COULD exist along side of said Spurs Thread... it would just be a bizarro U-Sector. But I digress. In this universe can such a thread exist? Will it?

-Rod

icgaff - October 14, 2010 09:44 PM (GMT)
Anyone else playing the European Champions next week? :campione:

COYS!

Rudi - October 14, 2010 09:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (icgaff @ Oct 14 2010, 05:44 PM)
Anyone else playing the European Champions next week? :campione:

I'm sure there's some team in Italy that will be.

ThisIsAnfield - October 14, 2010 09:52 PM (GMT)
All good club-specific threads either arise out of self-extermination prevention or fear of Michael Owen signings, or get started by mythical creatures, like Ross.

This thread is devoid of both and therefore out of context, like Spurs participation in the Champions League. ;)

Soldeed - October 14, 2010 09:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SweetOwnGoal @ Oct 14 2010, 11:18 AM)
Soldeed once ruefully told me that it was hurtful that London's fifth best club doesn't have its own thread. He said "even City has one, why can't we?"

I agree. We should be respectful of those less fortunate than us.

So please support my Give Spurs Their Own Thread initiative.

I'll let the mods decide whether the topic is significant enough to warrant a thread. Do others think it is?

I am sure that I never said that.

What I said was that with so many of us around it's surprising that it hasn't happened yet. We were just all too busy enjoying Champions League football to get around to it.

S.

marktci - October 14, 2010 10:02 PM (GMT)
Interesting that this thread now includes both Tarski and Hutch.

bgnewf - October 14, 2010 10:06 PM (GMT)
I am all for it.

That way they can leave my Gunners thread the fuck alone


:ph43r:

icgaff - October 14, 2010 10:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (bgnewf @ Oct 14 2010, 06:06 PM)
I am all for it.

That way they can leave my Gunners thread the fuck alone


:ph43r:

I'm not sure I've ever dirtied my eyes of your evil thread. Take your thread and fuck off back to South London with it :P

SSK - October 14, 2010 10:24 PM (GMT)
The fifth best club in London is by definition the top county cricket club, so there will be a lot cricket fuckers in that thread. Also, it might attract b-ball fans and haters of San Antonio Spurs. We can't allow either of those to happen... reject.

icgaff - October 14, 2010 10:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rudi @ Oct 14 2010, 05:45 PM)
QUOTE (icgaff @ Oct 14 2010, 05:44 PM)
Anyone else playing the European Champions next week?  :campione:

I'm sure there's some team in Italy that will be.

I need to work on making my posts resistant to Rudi's pedantical come backs :kungfu:

Rudi - October 14, 2010 10:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (icgaff @ Oct 14 2010, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (Rudi @ Oct 14 2010, 05:45 PM)
QUOTE (icgaff @ Oct 14 2010, 05:44 PM)
Anyone else playing the European Champions next week?  :campione:

I'm sure there's some team in Italy that will be.

I need to work on making my posts resistant to Rudi's pedantical come backs :kungfu:

Good luck with that ;)

Andre v2.0 - October 15, 2010 06:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (marktci @ Oct 14 2010, 05:02 PM)
Interesting that this thread now includes both Tarski and Hutch.

LOL.

I'll see if I can smuggle in a Huggy Bear reference.

Andre v2.0 - October 15, 2010 06:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (broton @ Oct 14 2010, 04:35 PM)
I'm with you there. The other posts which imply that an actual Spurs thread is a good thing, or a bad thing (or other banter) does not enter into it. 

Can we ignore the fact that it may already exist?  One could argued that an object could only exist when a person perceives it to exist, by using our five senses. An object, which is not perceived, does not in fact exist, and therefore matter as such does not exist.  But delving into more elusive means... such as a multiple or branching universe the Spurs thread may very well exist on another plain and therefore would not need to be created again in this universe.  And I'm sure another U-Sector COULD exist along side of said Spurs Thread... it would just be a bizarro U-Sector.  But I digress.  In this universe can such a thread exist? Will it?

-Rod

Maybe in an act of courage, I'm not sure on this - was it really courageous?, I've decided to make a Spurs thread here. I did so for two reasons: 1., you can only speak so much on the theoretical level - one needs to appeal to something in existence and 2. some people need a Spurs thread.

If it is the real Spurs thread is open to discussion. That it exists is not.

broton - October 15, 2010 01:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 15 2010, 01:42 AM)
I've decided to make a Spurs thread here.

Said Thread does not exist until I witness and record it's existence first hand. I have only your word that you created such a thread, a currently unverified statement. I have not looked for or seen said Spurs Thread...therefore it does not exist.

-Rod

Andre v2.0 - October 15, 2010 02:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (broton @ Oct 15 2010, 08:10 AM)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 15 2010, 01:42 AM)
I've decided to make a Spurs thread here.

Said Thread does not exist until I witness and record it's existence first hand. I have only your word that you created such a thread, a currently unverified statement. I have not looked for or seen said Spurs Thread...therefore it does not exist.

-Rod

Hey that's fine.

Just so you know there is a poll attached to the thread. So far, 4 people have voted, so it's not just me making the claim it exists. So to state that my claim is merely ideal and not in fact real is somewhat dismissive of the other three people who voted. Yes, I too do not think that the Spurs will win the NBA Championship this season.

Besides, you wouldn't verify the thread just to piss me off! Or failing that, by not verifying the existence of the thread you may be making the further claim that only an ideal/theoretical Spurs thread can possibly exist. If it is the latter rather than the former, well, then I can at least admire your conviction.


Regards,

Current poster who can exist in both the Ideal and the Real Spurs thread.

broton - October 15, 2010 03:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 15 2010, 09:08 AM)
Besides, you wouldn't verify the thread just to piss me off! Or failing that, by not verifying the existence of the thread you may be making the further claim that only an ideal/theoretical Spurs thread can possibly exist. If it is the latter rather than the former, well, then I can at least admire your conviction.

I'm still working on the math.

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But the current solution seems to lead to a result proving the latter (as you suggest). Should my proof prove positive I will publish my findings in all the appropriate journals.

Sincerely,

-Rod

Professor Roderic Broton III PhD., DDS., ASC., D.Th.
Dean and Department Head
College of Theoretical Spurs Threads and Modern Dance.
University of U-Sector at Jane Street.

Andre v2.0 - October 15, 2010 05:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (broton @ Oct 15 2010, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (Andre v2.0 @ Oct 15 2010, 09:08 AM)
Besides, you wouldn't verify the thread just to piss me off!  Or failing that, by not verifying the existence of the thread you may be making the further claim that only an ideal/theoretical Spurs thread can possibly exist.  If it is the latter rather than the former, well, then I can at least admire your conviction.

I'm still working on the math.

user posted image

But the current solution seems to lead to a result proving the latter (as you suggest). Should my proof prove positive I will publish my findings in all the appropriate journals.

Sincerely,

-Rod

Professor Roderic Broton III PhD., DDS., ASC., D.Th.
Dean and Department Head
College of Theoretical Spurs Threads and Modern Dance.
University of U-Sector at Jane Street.

Maybe I can give you some handy advice, that is, if you don't mind? I realize the germane clout that a Doctor of Theology carries in your proposed endeavor makes it difficult for me to tread in your domain - I feel I'm overstepping my bounds a little - but perhaps you can tie your two specialities together?

Schiller had the notion of 'The Beautiful Soul', which to be a bit vague and general, suggests that everyone in their own little way is unique. The point: not everything can be subsumed within a construct of general or universal reason. The upshot of this is that there are some aspects of one's self that cannot be communicated or subsumed within a generalization. Therefore, there are some things we just cannot know.

To claim that there is a real Spurs thread suggests that we know exactly what a Spurs thread means. SOG, again he really should be given the credit, expressed some measure of doubt in the 'other' thread as to the voracity of said thread, I quote 'Is this the real spurs thread?' or something to that effect. If you can claim that the Spurs thread in some way acts like the beautiful soul, then you can make the further claim that only God himself can understand the Spurs thread because God is all knowing etc. Ergo, the Real Spurs is truly an Ideal Spurs thread because only God alone knows what makes everyone unique.

As for bringing in the Modern Dance, claim you saw the Ideal Spurs thread dancing while under the influence of acid at 2am while at Burning Man. I'd buy that.


ontarioiron - October 15, 2010 05:57 PM (GMT)
FUCK THE SPURS :P

irishwhisper - October 20, 2010 07:39 PM (GMT)
I'll use this thread to point out how much i am enjoying watching the Internazionale demolition of Tottenham!

Its just too easy for them, I thought Inter would win and easily but not this easily. Now Tottenham know what its like to come up against a team from the top league.

Shinobi - October 20, 2010 08:36 PM (GMT)
Watching three games at the same time, I managed to miss all but Bale's third effort. Crazy ass shit. Can't wait to see the replay of his first goal, which from all accounts is legendary (think Maradona '86). Can't wait to see the highlights. Great show of character after frankly getting sliced to ribbons in the first half, albeit with ten men.

irishwhisper - October 20, 2010 09:02 PM (GMT)
Inter were 2-0 up though 11 v 11 and at that score the match is in the bag for them. 2nd half they were half arsed so Spurs dont deserve any credit and Bales hattrick is as good as a hattrick in a friendly really as it was against half arsed opposition.

Inter outclassed them, simple as!
Bale is good but very very overrated

SeanKeay - October 20, 2010 09:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (irishwhisper @ Oct 20 2010, 04:02 PM)
Inter were 2-0 up though 11 v 11 and at that score the match is in the bag for them. 2nd half they were half arsed so Spurs dont deserve any credit and Bales hattrick is as good as a hattrick in a friendly really as it was against half arsed opposition.

Inter outclassed them, simple as!
Bale is good but very very overrated

Bale is overrated???

Who the hell scores 3 goals like that @ Inter and is called overrated. Shake your head

tDoB - October 20, 2010 09:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (irishwhisper @ Oct 20 2010, 05:02 PM)
Inter were 2-0 up though 11 v 11 and at that score the match is in the bag for them. 2nd half they were half arsed so Spurs dont deserve any credit and Bales hattrick is as good as a hattrick in a friendly really as it was against half arsed opposition.

Inter outclassed them, simple as!
Bale is good but very very overrated

I love you man, but how can you say Bale is overrated? He is a fucking legend!!!!!

Edit: I think he has been underrated for a long time. If he was English the media would have been bowing down to him to years.

TOareaFan - October 20, 2010 09:11 PM (GMT)
Never saw this match.....but I would be wondering about any side that gave up 3 goals in the second half of a champion's league match at home against 10 men!

Just sayin'

Shinobi - October 20, 2010 10:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TOareaFan @ Oct 20 2010, 05:11 PM)
Never saw this match.....but I would be wondering about any side that gave up 3 goals in the second half of a champion's league match at home against 10 men!

Just sayin'

I think Inter did this a couple years ago...it happens. As long as you get the three points, it's all good.

:lol: @ Bale being overrated BTW...he'd walk into any side in Europe, and certainly start for any EPL team sans Chelsea (sorta hard to displant Cashley and Malouda on current form).

icgaff - October 21, 2010 02:04 AM (GMT)
I thought Spurs played some good stuff throughout. They were just shocked at the beginning by the intricate passing at the edge of the box you don't see much in the EPL.

They got to grips with it in the second half and did what they could with 10. Which I never thought would be to score 3. And Lennon deserves much credit for the third goal. Never thought I'd say this but Jenas was brilliant throughout as well.

SweetOwnGoal - October 21, 2010 04:02 PM (GMT)
(I think this has become the Spurs thread)

Shinobi - October 21, 2010 09:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SweetOwnGoal @ Oct 21 2010, 12:02 PM)
(I think this has become the Spurs thread)

All thanks to a Gooner. :lol:

ontarioiron - October 23, 2010 05:10 PM (GMT)
Wilson Palacios was handed a recall to the Tottenham side for the game against Everton thanks to the intervention of his mum.


Harry Redknapp said that he had bumped into the Honduras international and his mother Orfilia while out shopping.


"I've got to play him, really, because I met him out shopping with his mum the other day when I was with my wife," said Redknapp.
"And she said to me she's come over to England - she couldn't speak English but she's telling me through somebody else - that she'd come to England to watch him and I hadn't been playing him.
"And she was quite a big girl! So I've got to play him. I wasn't going to mess with her, believe you me!


HAHAHAHA oh yeah and FUCK THE SPURS....

icgaff - October 26, 2010 02:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shinobi @ Oct 21 2010, 05:32 PM)
QUOTE (SweetOwnGoal @ Oct 21 2010, 12:02 PM)
(I think this has become the Spurs thread)

All thanks to a Gooner. :lol:

How do you work that one out? :blink:




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