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 pre-hersey landraiders
stormbird1
Posted: Aug 25 2011, 05:03 PM


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I remember reading that pre-hersey landraiders could not carry terminators. Only after the hersey did the Mechanicus make the landraiders able to carry terminators. Is this correct?

If this is correct, how did terminators deploy pre-hersey?
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malika
Posted: Aug 25 2011, 05:18 PM


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Back then Marines used the Land Raider Spartan. Of course this background material has been revised, now Land Raiders have always been capable of carrying Terminators.

But lets assume that they didn't, back then they would have thus used Land Raider Spartans, but also teleporters and drop pods (Dreadclaws?)
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ShroudFilm
Posted: Aug 25 2011, 07:13 PM


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It has been retconned - Raven's Flight has a Land Raider deploying Iron Warriors Terminators into battle against the Raven Guard.
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malika
Posted: Aug 25 2011, 08:15 PM


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But hasn't it already been retconned ages ago? I mean ever since the 3rd (or maybe even 2nd) edition Land Raiders were able to carry Terminators with no problem.

Maybe the Land Raider Spartan can carry a full squad of 10 Terminators rather than 5 in the normal Land Raider?

@ShroudFilm: What's up with the red letters? Normally that means "angry Mod mode" right? tongue.gif
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stormbird1
Posted: Aug 25 2011, 10:53 PM


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Thanks for the replies. I just wanted to make sure before building a pre-hersey army. Thanks.
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Gagoc TheAncient
Posted: Nov 9 2011, 08:23 PM


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Pertinent update.
Apparently the Land Raider Proteus can't carry Terminators. So a Spartan based on this pattern possibly could.

As for the Spartan, there is an article about on the forum. Here's the link:
http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Great_Crus...t=0#entry292144

Enjoy!
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stormbird1
Posted: Dec 3 2011, 01:16 PM


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Greetings,

Have a new problem. With the new landraiders from Forgeworld coming out, do we know what time peroid in pre hersey era they were in?

Landraider Proteus -

Armoured landraider Proteus -

MK 2b landraider -

Landraider -

Were they in the great crusade era, Horus hersey era, Siege of Terra era, or the scourging era? Also which could carry terminators and which could not?
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Gagoc TheAncient
Posted: Dec 3 2011, 06:49 PM


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This is FW's background for the Proteus pattern of Land Raider.

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The origins of the powerful Land Raider tanks of the Space Marines are lost in the dim and mythic Dark Age of Technology, but they were no doubt the
product of humanity’s unrestrained science and hungry conquests of the stars. Rediscovered during the early days of the Imperium, Land Raiders swiftly
became a mainstay of the Space Marine Legions of the Great Crusade, and although many variants and configurations have been forged anew or found
in the dusty silence of dead worlds in the millennia since, few hold the mystery of what the Adeptus Mechanicus refer to as the ‘Proteus’ patterns. This
term is given to a number of different configurations which are believed to be among the oldest of their kind, who share the principle feature that as
well as being a highly durable, environmentally sealed and well-armed battle tank they contain numerous sophisticated augury systems and cogitator
engines, enabling to scan and monitor the events of a battlefield with phenomenal clarity. This has led some to label the pattern as the Land Raider’s
progenitor type — intended for the exploration and conquests of new worlds and harsh and unforgiving alien environments. The Proteus Land Raiders
however lack the armoured frontal assault ramps and larger troop capacity of the more commonplace Land Raider types, which, along with the difficulty
of their reproduction, is likely to have explained their displacement in favour of other patterns during the wars of the Horus Heresy and the dark millennia
that have passed since.

Although an exceedingly rare sight on the battlefields of the 41st Milienium, the Proteus remains a highly regarded war-relic by those Space Marine
Chapters who possess them either through ancient history or as the spoils of war and conquest, both as a command vehicle and as spearhead leader. So
to it is within the Eye of Terror, where the Dark Magos strive to maintain what few Land Raider Proteus that the Traitor Legions took into exile with them,
often replacing failing components with devices of fouler invention where needed to keep the tanks battle-worthy.


So according to this the Proteus was probably the original Land Raider pattern built during the Dark Age Of Technology, and that it was in use by Imperial forces by the time of the Heresy.

It is most likely that they were in use during the Great Crusade, but whether that is early, mid- or late Crusade is purely supposition.
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