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 Loyalist Horus, When he was still fighting for the Emp
SQ
Posted: Jun 15 2008, 06:16 PM


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Huhu,

Every day I keep getting a new package with bits for my Pre-Heresy army ( E-bay FTW ) and I just about have enough to start my Luna Wolves army. I'm starting out with a Tactical Squad, an Assault Squad, a Squad of termies, 2 Landspeeders and an HQ.

The thing however is that I want a couple of HQ's:
  • A random captain
  • Mournival members
  • Horus

... and with Horus lies the problem! I have pictures/artwork/photographs of pretty much all the mournival members, but I'm on blank about Horus! I am re-reading the Horus Heresy series so I can get some info on what he looks like, but the only bit of artwork I could find is that well-known piece when he's about to give the emperor an ass-whuppin'!

Is there such a thing as a pre-heresy picture of Horus? and if not, do any of you guys know what Horus looks like exactly? Detail on his head/armour/weapons would be greatly appreciated!

Thanx in advance,
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Lion El' Jonson
Posted: Jun 15 2008, 06:35 PM


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Alas, there are no Pre Heresy pictures of Horus, but what we do know so far is that he bore some resemblance to Abaddon, or rather Abaddon has a resemblance to him, as he was known as a "Son of Horus" we also know that he wore "snow white" battle plate and that he carried a sword crafted by Ferrus Manus. (I think it was crafted by him unsure.gif )

I'm sure the Loremasters can fill you in better and tell me the many mistakes I've mad ehere tongue.gif
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VESPASIAN
Posted: Jun 15 2008, 08:49 PM


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QUOTE (SQ @ Jun 15 2008, 06:16 PM)

Is there such a thing as a pre-heresy picture of Horus? and if not, do any of you guys know what Horus looks like exactly? Detail on his head/armour/weapons would be greatly appreciated!

Here are some details of Horus which I hope will be of some help to you.

We are told that his head was bare and shaven. Horus has a noble and sculptural face. His skin was deeply tanned by multiple sunlights and he has wide-spaced eyes and gleaming teeth. (Horus Rising P. 114-115) His face is '...perfect in every dimension and detail, suffused in radiance. So beautiful. So very beautiful.' (Horus Rising P.43)

Physically he is described as:

'...a true giant, as large again to any Astartes warrior as an Astartes was to a normal man.' (Horus Rising P.43)

He has a range of different armours and clothing which he wears during the period in which he is loyal and are described as follows:

'...His armour was white gold,like the sunlight at dawn, the work of master artificers. Many symbols covered its surfaces, the chief of which was the motif of a single, staring eye fashioned across the breastplate. Robes of white cloth fluttered out behind the terrible haloed figure.' He has a storm bolter in his right hand on this occasion (Horus Rising P. 43)

He later also wears this same armour with furs (Horus Rising P. 114-115).

Another armour that he wears whilst still the Primarch of the Luna Wolves is a full ceremonial wargear of;

'...gleaming gold and frost white, with a vast mantle of purple scale-skin draped across his shoulders. The eye of Terra stared from his breastplate.' (Horus Rising P. 215)

After the Luna Wolves become the Sons of Horus, the Primarch's armour changes subtlely. The Sons of Horus are still loyal servants of the Emperor at this point:

'...his armour gleaming gold and ocean green, with a cloak of regal purple framing him perfectly. A single, carved red eye stared out from his breastplate and a wreath of laurels sat upon his perfect brow.' (False Gods P. 30)

He is later also described in a slightly different armour.

'...arrayed as he was in a magnificent suit of plate armour, the colour of a distant ocean and a cloak of deepest purple. The eye of Terra shone on his breast...' (False Gods P. 55-56)

Horus also wears a '...gleaming battle armour the colour of a win­ter sky, its rims formed of beaten gold, and bas-relief text filling each shoulder guard. Bright against his chest plate was a staring red eye, like a drop of blood on virgin snow.' (False Gods P. 82)

There are also times when he doesn't wear armour at all. An example of this is when he is described as wearing foul weather clothing, a mail shirt,black leather gloves and furs (Horus Rising P. 195)

Another point that should be also taken in consideration is the fact that the books only describe Horus at a very exact chronological point. There is a vast amount of time when the reader simply does not know what Horus is wearing or doing. So there is no need to take the above details as the only things that Horus ever wore.

Too many times members state; '...that such and such only ever wore this because it only mentions it here.' This I feel is completely wrong given the extremely limited insights we are given into the Pre-Heresy/Heresy universe.

In addition Horus was not only a Primarch, but he was the Emperor's first son and also the Warmaster: so he would have an unlimited access to any wargear, clothing, etc. that he wanted. So if you don't like the sound of any of the wargear descriptions above then just use your imagination and create somthing amazing.

I for one would love to see what you design.
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SQ
Posted: Jun 15 2008, 10:31 PM


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WOW blink.gif
HAHA! I was going through the HH novels again too and writing all this down, but you definately beat me to it! Thanx a lot Vespasian & Lion biggrin.gif

I want to design a piece of armour for Horus during the time of the Luna Wolves.
A re-ocurring thing in pretty much most of his appearances is that he's always bald, most armours have the 'Eye of Terra', his armour is pretty much very bright and he uses a lot of white gold.

The fact that there aren't any Pre-Heresy pics of Horus does give me that bit of 'artistic freedom' that comes in quite handy wink.gif So I'm thinking:
  • White armour
  • A huge cloak
  • Sword + 'Ranged weapon'
  • No helmet
  • True-scale him!

By truescaling him he should dwarf all my other marines and it would definately feel more fluffy. I haven't descided yet if I wanna give him Power Armour or Termi armour yet, perhaps I can mix it around a bit.

So thanx again, Vesp! and I'll post some pics once I start with him! biggrin.gif
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VESPASIAN
Posted: Jun 19 2008, 01:08 PM


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Your welcome,glad I could help.

Your main points for the miniature sound great. I'm looking forward to seeing some of those photos.
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serge
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 10:35 PM


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Here is my favourite PH Horus that I found on the CMON (not by me!):

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Serge
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Iacton
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 11:17 PM


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Heh, that's Edencontact aka Reg, he's a member here, and his primarch conversions are absolutely lovely.
Shame he never seems to post nowadays...
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Torg
Posted: Sep 3 2008, 09:00 AM


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To bad their isn't a exact fig for Luna wolf Horus,
it's always after he turned to chaos that they make him as.
But that one is totally cool! smile.gif
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shorty
Posted: Sep 3 2008, 09:29 AM


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Who was the user that here at the Great Crusade has a White Horus in Terminator Armor as his Avatar ?

I would like to see that Miniature painted because i liked that white glow. Even if it was the Last Stand Top Miniature so that the colours should not be correct by that time.

Does someone has this pic ?
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Kaleb 'Angelus' Dante
Posted: Sep 4 2008, 06:34 PM


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Hi thats me biggrin.gif
here is the pic
user posted image


Its my unfinished version of Horus Pre-heresy I started him ages ago but I haven't had the time to finish him too much work not enough free time sad.gif
I need to replace the bolter with a more "cannon" one and just generally tidy him up.
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shorty
Posted: Sep 5 2008, 06:20 AM


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Hi Kaleb. Yes thats the one im looking for. I like that white. Hmm i know that sword from somewhere....Eldar Avatar ? Hmm why did you have a white Resin base ?
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Vredesbyrd
Posted: Sep 5 2008, 08:42 AM


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Black Templar Emperor's Champion. ninja.gif
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Kaleb 'Angelus' Dante
Posted: Sep 5 2008, 04:50 PM


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10 points to Vred it is indeed the sword from the Black Templar Emperor's Champion give yourself a pat on the back biggrin.gif

I just cut the mace off and replaced it with the sword I think it looks rather snazzy with the extra long handle tongue.gif

The white resin base I stole from the Sanguini.... sorry winged knight mini rolleyes.gif
The white colour is just skull white paint.
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Brother-Captain Basilus
Posted: Sep 5 2008, 05:39 PM


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Here's one from CMOn, pretty much how I imagine him:

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Brother Tiriel
Posted: Sep 5 2008, 06:07 PM


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Gah! Except for the head which is too simple and not bald, he's ace!

Who did it?
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Kaleb 'Angelus' Dante
Posted: Sep 7 2008, 08:56 PM


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could you not just use Abbadons head but cut off the top knot huh.gif
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Torg
Posted: Sep 9 2008, 08:17 AM


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I found a descent combi bolter,
with the new new Termi Librarian,
it pretty much fits with all of the Primarchs
that have combi bolters(stormbolters)
Might have to get me a couple more of them
if I make the Luna wolfy Horus,and a few other Primarchs. wink.gif
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Warmaster Horus
Posted: Aug 2 2009, 04:05 AM


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i see alot with a mace, i havent finished the novels yet, but im just curious, when does he acquire the mace?

when he turns? or just cuz?

i kinda like the idea of true scale, my dad has an inquistor game piece, like the really big ones, like daemon prince big, is tht TOO big for a primarch if i dont attempt to truescale the army?
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Lunasteve
Posted: Apr 2 2010, 12:11 PM


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not sure about the mace, ive read he had a personal banner with the words " i am the emperors vigilance and the eye of terra" in gold lettering, cant find it now but im sure thats what i read. this is a helpful thread guys i might start my horus this weekend while im off work, cheers ( love the horus on cmon btw - if only he was bald)

steve
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