Daemons, Deitys and Scarythings..., Background, Help and Nibbles...

i know this is threadomancy but i have something helpfull to say

beleakor was a break away deamon prince who became hsi own god (but really tzeentch was tricking him, but what ever)

so how about louthing or self louthing
and i will work on a name since i am snowed in today

Its not threadomancy if you add something to the discussion, which you have done with the information on Belakor. Vredesbyrd.

Belakor???

the name sounds familliar but i cant place it

First Champion of Chaos in the WFB world, he become a model during the Storm of Chaos campaign and is now the most used Daemon Prince model going.

Actually thinking about it Belakor is Fantasy not 40K so doesn't really fit in here. Ah well.

This post has been edited by Vredesbyrd on Dec 17 2008, 10:53 PM

fantasy
he is a deamon prince who was bond to serve archon
and he fled to the south and formed his ownn cult who worshipped him

Edit: need to be faster

thats why i didnt know it, fantasy bores me

fantasy has good fluff for chaos
and good minis for preheresy

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one other thing about bealekor is that he is crazy
like really crazy
all bound up and stuff by tzeentch
that would be cool
have bealekor in 40k as he is imortal and all
all insane and godly

nah, cant be arsed sculping myself

Right, sorry bout the threadomancy and all, and hope you all had a good xmas...

working on the background and came up with the following...



Name - Baphos... Lord of Dispair (nightmares)
Magic Number - 5 (or multiples of)





A young god in comparison to the other 4 powers, Baphos has only been recognised by the Ordo Malleus as an indipendant power, and have usually mistaken him for a 'rogue' daemon from one of the other powers, if this is true or not we can only speculate as Baphos' origins are unknown.

The oldest records date back to the 31st millennium, but it is thought to predate even this turbulant period of history, but any records have have either been erased or just never existed to begin with...

Methods - Practise...

Baphos has been dubbed with the title 'Lord of Despair', a name usually associated with the god Nurgle, his methods are more descreet than some of the other gods, though no less deadly., this is thought to be down to the lack of power the other gods have, or one of many other possable reasons. When a world comes to his attention through a local warpstorm or from cult worship, Baphos makes his prescence known in peoples dreams, usually he appears in the nightmares of prophets or the many people proclaiming the end of the world.
(Because of the way he 'infiltrates' the minds of people in this manner, he has also been mistaken for Tzeentch or one of the folowers of the Lord of Change)...

Once the people he has 'spoken' to have started preaching of his comming, more and more people are visited in their sleep as unrest and dread spreads through the community, dreams of losing family or loved ones, visions of the future, of their world being invaded and everyone slaughtered or enslaved and forced to build monuments in his name as shadows claw at them whilst dancing in the firelight, all the time whispering and sowing the seeds of dispair...
Even when people are awake his mental torture continues, constantly eating away at the back of their minds. When his power is greatest and his hold over his mortal pray has broken their will his daeminic footsoldiers break through the barrier seperating the warp from reality to slay in his name...

Appearence...

The daemonic followers of Baphos are shadowy beings, they appear to be semi-corporeal, smoke like . This also helps to install despair into the minds of the enemy, afterall how does one kill something that doesnt seem to have a solod body...

GREATER DAEMONS - The Hangmen of Baphos...

The hangmen vary in apperance although they do share common traits. They are large, nothing unusual for a Greater Daemon, and wear some form of 'hood' or other kind of facial covering. this usually takes the form of a Hangmans hood or that of a 'Hooded' monks robe.
They also wear some kind of clothing on their bodies, though this isnt always the case, this usually takes the form of a tabbard or 'monk' style robes...

Any visable flesh is covered in scars, or has 'pins', spikes bits of metal or broken glass pressed beneath their skin, and anyone who looks at them is said to feel all the joy and happiness sucked out of them. Every eye witness report has said they have a 'Hangmans noose' around their necks and carry an hourglass on their person somewhere. Occasionally they have wings and some carry weapons, although these vairy, although some form of sword or mace seems to be the more popular choice...

It is said when a hangman appears, that it just steps out of the shadows near the unsuspecting enemy, although it has also been recorded that they have appeared in the same way as the shadowkin...

LESSER DAEMON - The Shadowkin...

All Shadowkin bear the same form, thats if they actually take a form themselves. Unlike most daemons from more 'popular' powers, you have little warning that you are in danger before they appear.

When the attack is immanent, a section of the ground turns black, as if its being corrupted from beneath, (again, another reason why Nurgle has had credit) and faint whisps of smoke or miniscule 'spores' rise up as blackened tendrils spread outand grow wider and longer as more 'smoke' is given off. When these spread wide enough to join up with other 'thingies' (technical term) the Shaddowkin rise up.

Their appearence is vaguely humanoid, they seem to have a body, the legs blend into the blackened earth beneath them, that spreads and follows them. Their limbs are like smoky tendrils, in a vague parody of arms, with fingers that stretch out, flailing about to ensnare their victims, the head is also just a smoky shape, occasionally when the power feeding them is strong they take on basic facial features, usually red eyeslits and a fanged maw.

When they attack their victims, they usually see long dead family members beckoning to them, people who they love of members of their unit who they are close to in pain or sometimes themselves as corpses, this usually gives the Daemons enough time to get in close before the victim realises this is an illusion and the Daemons body solidifies and takes on the appearence of the victims worst nightmare and slaughters them...


ok, any ideas to add to this, for the shadowkin i had the image of the black smoky crap that appears in the remake of the house on haunted hill and will poss use elf Dryads to model them, and the Hangmen will be using the new Daemon prince of a converted horned rat mini (anyone have one going spare???)

but i see this as a forum thing as you guys have really helped me along so im not going to take all the credit

and i had records going bact to the heresy, as it ties in with what we do and it seems to me like a perfect time for Bhaphos to come of age, with marines fighting their brothers and whatnot...

night lords
he would be atracted to them in some way shap or form

and i like it

but i would steal a bit more from the dryads
they change into the form of women before they kill people
how these daemons change into the persons loved ones or something right before they kill them

I was thinking about using a mini I found of Cthulu,
for 30k Deamons Like a lesser power (or a power kicked out of the eye of Terror)
maybe one that sided with Malal(see Realm of Chaos (old books)or Wikipedia about him.)How would you guys use him and the old ones of Lovecraft?

I envisage Cthulhu and the other Great Old Ones basically as the same sort of thing as the C'tan. They create life and destroy it at whim, and barely even notice the little organic things that worship them.

I was amazed at the similarity of language between HP Lovecraft and some parts of Mechanicum...!

Maybe with them,I could possibly make them as awakened
Chaos Gods/Ctan but made their home somewhere instead of the Eye of Terror.
I mean there is a couple of places on the 40k galxy maps, I have seen that such things could inhabit instead of the Eye.
I mean if you look at it there is:
A, The GrendL stars
B:Spatial anomaly"Hadex"
or C,The Mealstrom,I mean think about it did exist in the 30k
galaxy as far as anyone knows,and is another Eye!
or even D the middle of the galaxy,an even bigger Eye then the Eye of Terror
even today in (2009) it is considered a Black Hole.
So the ideas are endless.....

For the greater Daemon you could base it on the look of the executioner in the new resident evil game he looks alot like you were discribing just found an action fiqure of him what do you think?

http://www.forbiddenplanet.com/products/39...il/Product.html

Scragglefoot

I managed to get my hands on the Daemons Codex a while ago and it left me very disappointed. It was one big pile of...ok let's stay polite here!

The book however seems to focus on the Big Four and doesn't even mention other possible powers, hence creating a suggestion that there are only four. Personally I really don't like that idea. I like the idea that the Chaos Gods number more, and that they can very well change form/focus, making the lines between certain deities very vague (Khaine/Khorne for example).

Check this thread over at the Anargo Sector Project forums for the idea of a new minor God, Ghaezun, the Lord of the Blind. He works through music/art and in a way has similarities to Slaanesh but also Tzeentch and Nurgle.

Maybe they akin to Terry Pratchet's gods, as described in 'Small Gods'.

They're insubstantial, lowly spirits until they find a niche, in the case of the warp an emotional niche, and they develop by how much they are worshipped, or are able draw on the emotional power they've tapped.

But if they lose their power, they revert back to lowly spirit that can only provide illusions to entice people.

Hmm, perhaps the Big Four work like that as well. I mean one fluff source states they kind of came about around 7000-8000 BC while others state that Nurgle showed up around the 14th/15th century. The Necron Codex seems to suggest that Chaos emerged during the War in Heaven when more races started to use their psychic powers/link to the warp.

MvS over at Warseer wrote an interested article on the 40k pre history, I'll post it up later. Might be interesting to some!