Gagoc's Loyalists Blog, Loyal to the Emperor since M3

So I'v decided to put my stuff in a blog.
Especially since I will be working on the AoBR Astartes for a while.

As a prelude to this I bought the Chaos Terminator Lord, some of whose bits I'll be using with AoBR Termie.
I've decided to use the majority of the Chaos Termie Lord's bits for a long held Project, a PH Terminator Librarian.

Now I have two choices currently, a Thousand Son Termie Lib, or A Death Guard one. The difference being the weapon and the left arm weilding it.
But I don't know which to do!

Can you help?

Here's some WIP pics.

Thousand Son Termie Lib:


Death Guard Termie Lib:


But which to choose?

I personally think the brutal helmet design suits DG much better but the pose of the scythe hand is a bit strange. Still looking really promising there.
By the way, where is the helmet from?

Seconded on the Death Guard!

Plus, the blade looks too big imho (Shas'O Whatever's blade, right?).
Casket guard's blade however, are perfect!

Looks like DG for me... I think the skulls and the helmet fit better for them...
Thousand Sons wouldn't collect trophies like on his stormbolter. (Or better: TS as I imagine them...)

Shas'O Vior'la Shovah Kais Mont'yr - Commander; hot blooded; farsight; skilful; blooded ... Perhaps: Commander Farsight who comes from the Sept of Vior'la, hot blooded and skilful ...

The head is from an od WHFB Champion of Khorne. I ordered it ages ago.

The scythe blade has a skull on it and roses. It's from the Empire Wizards sprue.

You could be right about doing him as a DG, as I'm modelled up a DG Lib Familiar from the skeletal banner piece off of the Empire General sprue.

Ooh that familiar is genious! The icon is made mostly of plasticard yes?

Yes! The actual DG symbol is made out of plasticard, a disk and six triangles, with a skull cut off a plastic Crux Terminatus from an Astartes shoulderpad (not a Termie one).

Sorry! Double posting, Bad me!!!

I will make the Terminator Librarian DG as I plan to turn the AoBR Terminators into DG Termies.
I might even be able to use them as the Lib's retinue!

Though if I get some AoBR, by swapping my Orks for Astartes, I'll make those Termies into a squad from another Legion.

(D'oh! Triple post. Sorry!)

I've got those other AoBR SM, and I've also gotten the new Red Scorpion Vanguard Vets.

Plans so far: With the AoBR models do each squad from a single Legion, with the possible exception of Characters. Therefore:
DG Terminator Librarian and a five squad of Termies that can act as Honour Guard/Command Squad.
The tactical squad will be Luna Wolves.
And I'm planning on turning a Captain into Garro.

Now the other Termie squad.... I'm not sure of! I don't know whether to have them as TS or as something else. Any suggestions?

The other Tactical squad... I'm thinking either AL or EC. Each has their pro's, AL seem to fit the Tac squad well, but the have Aquila's which is good for EC.
And I'll probably do the second Captain to match this Tac squad.

As for the Dreads, I might see if I can convert at least one to a MK IV style.
But they will be my fifth and sixth Dreads respectively, and I'm wondering do I really need Six?

On these, with the first Tac squad I've so far removed the heads off five of them, and the Aquila's off half (will removeth others soon).
I need certain bits for the Captain and Termies before I can get stuck in.


I was going to do a mixed squad of Raptor-like Assault marines, but I've decided to a couple of squads of these, as well as a couple of possible squads of non-JPed Assault marines, with each squad from a different Legion.

Night Lords are the obvious choice for one Raptor squad, and I thinking of having a squad of Thousand Sons, but if I do should I give them Jump Packs?
Oh and of course a squad of WE assault marines.

I have some more scouts to finish converting and basing before I undercoat them.
So far I have fifteen Snipers, 8 CCW, 4 HW, and a sarge Scout to paint, add to them 8 Bolter armed, 6 Shotgun armed, 2 CCW and three Sarge scout WIP models.

And I'm expecting a few of the new models and Codex SM soon.

(I give up! Someone please answer a post before I get into trouble! )
Here's some WIP's and PIP's

Here some PIP scouts I'm working on. They're Luna Wolf and Death Guard scouts. And there's also a DG familiar for the Librarian.



Here some Bolter and Shotgun Scouts, still very WIP.


And here's some RT metal scouts I plan on salting through my scout squads.


Here's what I'm doing with my first AoBR tac Squad. They'll be Luna Wolves when I'm finished. And there's a closeup of the Mk IV conversion.

they look rly gd Gagoc TheAncient. i just wondered how u removed the heads of the AoBR marines

nothing a scalpel cant fix!!!!!

Well what I did was use the collar at the back as a guide and chopped the top, or dome, of the helmet off. I used the GW razor saw, pretty good.

I used a knife to cut into the neck joint above the rim of the chest armour. It only has to be a millimetre or two deep if that.

I then used the hobby drill to drill a hole down through the remains of the head down to about the models clavicle, centred above the neck. That's about 3 or 4 mm in from the back of the collar, just above that ribbed cable thing.

I then used bigger and bigger drill bits to widen the drill hole, until I got to one about 5mm in diameter.
This widens the hole so that there's only a thin skin of plastic at the front of the neck.

I then just finished the laterall cut across the neck, and cut down either side of the helmet just in front of the collar, to remove the face of the helmet.

Then you just need make sure there's enough of a hollow left for you to drop in the new helmet, and there you have it.

This post has been edited by Gagoc TheAncient on Oct 6 2008, 12:04 AM

yea, i was gonna say that lol... nice to see someone using crappy boxset marines, i was using 2nd ed marines lol!!!

Great conversions there. I really like the (mk3?) guy with strips of plasticard around his armour.

Very nice Gagoc my favourite has to be the AoBR marines.

Actually, he's going to be in Mk 2 armour. The first one in that row will be a Mk 3.

I got my hands on some old Space Crusade stuff off Ebay.

I mainly bought them for these:



Now which on should I give to my Master of the Forge?

the big one at the bottom right.....whatever it is

The biggest one has the biggest gun of course
They are conversion beamers yes? I am tempted to get my hands on a Space crusade box just for the bits although raiding the old game seems a bit heretical.