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Angels_Blade - December 21, 2012 08:45 AM (GMT)
OK, so as time fliters on I find myself unable to read as much as i'd like so book choice inevitibly gets harder. I thought It'd be useful to have a thread dedicated to book recommendations. Obviously being a Heresy site, the HH series goes without saying but if that series didn't exist what would be your top 5 BL books?

I'm gonna chuck my 2 cents in to get the ball rolling...

1) Ravenwing - Gav Thorpe
2) Atlas Infernal - Rob Sanders
3) Path of the Warrior - Gav Thorpe
4) Angels of Darkness - Gav Thorpe
5) Titanicus - Dan Abnett

Now these are my personnal favourites and I'm sure its obvious that I like Gav Thorpe's writing style but I heartily recommend them to anyone who hasn't read them yet

On a side note these aren't in my top 5 but are books that may get overlooked but are freeking brilliant

Dark Vengence - CZ Dunn
Flesh of Cretacia - Andy Smilie
Relentless - Richard Williams

Cheers AB

Pettsy - December 21, 2012 09:26 AM (GMT)
1. Storm of Iron. Action from start to end and Honsou is personally my favourite BL character of all.
2. Honour Guard. I love tank warfare. Also adds my favourite Ghost to the series Viktor Hark.
3. Dead Sky, Black Sun. More Honsou, I view this as a sequel to Storm of Iron rather than an Ultramarine novel.
4. Commissar Cain 4 (forgotten name, the one where Cain and Jurgen crash onto the Ork invaded planet). I love the Cain series but this one was my favourite for some reason.
5. Dark Apostle. Interesting characters and a very interesting plot.

Pacific - December 21, 2012 10:35 AM (GMT)
Pettsy, your number 5 on that list would be in my bottom 5 (possibly 3!) :D

For non-HH books? OK, a tough choice but I'll give it a shot:

- The Night Lord books by ADB (can I choose a trilogy, rather than it taking up 3 spots? :) )
- Space Marine, by Ian Watson
- Eisenhorn Trilogy by Dan Abnett (narrowly edges out the original Inquisition Wars, didn't want to put Ian Watson twice on this list and look too crusty! :) )
- Angels of Darkness, by Gav Thorpe
- Fifteen Hours, by Mitchel Scanlon (If I had to give one book to someone completely new to the 40k universe to explain its character, this one would be it!)

BigWill - December 21, 2012 10:42 AM (GMT)
1)Warrior Coven :lol: :lol: :lol:
1)15 Hours
3)The Last Chancers
4)Armour of Contempt
5)Let the Galaxy Burn(If that's considered cheating Titanicus)

I think Horus Heresy is right up there, but the first four are stellar stories
I think 15 hours is the drop dead best guardsmen story.
Pariah is the best of all the Inquisition books successfully tying them all in.
Armour of Contempt gives you a great look at what happens when Chaos wins.
Let the Galaxy Burn is probably the most through collections of short stories and the best book to get a newbie up to speed with the 40k backstory
Titanicus was awesome as well.

Mortarion - December 21, 2012 11:32 AM (GMT)
1) Vampire Wars - Steven Savile. I literally couldn't put this down!
2) The Blood Angel Omnibus - James Swallow
3) Soul Drinkers Omnibus - Ben Counter. It was nice to see a different take on marines.
4) Time of Legends: Nagash Trilogy - Mike Lee. ITS. JUST. EPIC.
5) Time of Legends: The Great Betrayal - Nick Kyme. Shows really good promise for this trilogy and actually made me, briefly, start both a dwarf and an elf army

Other honourable mentions go to:
THe Ultramarine Omnibus
the Vampire Genevieve Trilogy

My worst book so far?
Battles of the Space Marines: Wrath of Iron

Adenn - December 21, 2012 01:13 PM (GMT)
Nice idea, and a fine plan to rule out the heresy books :P

(1 - Storm of Iron, because it's Awesome. just an all-round brilliant book, and the good guys don't win!
(2 - Titanicus, because titans
(3 - 15 Hours, as mentioned it gets the guardsman thing, Perfect.
(4 - Space Marine, because ian watson needs to come in somewhere
(5 - Night lords series, because space batman.

Uh, (6 - Battle of the Fang. Sorry, i had to mention that one :D Magnus!

Edit - Worst book so far, predictably the second DoW book, which for some reason i actually read, and was as bad as all the legends foretold.
If you don't consider that half-cooked literary vomit with the wit and fairmindedness of a 12 year old to count, to be honest experience with 40K books has been pretty positive!

White Wolf - December 21, 2012 04:36 PM (GMT)
My choices (for what they're worth....)

1. Eisenhorn/Ravenor - The complete literary package
2. Nightlords Trilogy - ADB's piece de resistance - simply great
3. Deathwing - the original book of short stories (showing my age.....!!!)
4. Battle of the Fang - just a good story - written in the same vein as Prospero Burns
5. Ciaphas Cain - makes me laugh out loud in places - Flashman in space

Honorable mention -
Angel of Fire

Heresy Faves....

Prospero Burns/A Thousand Sons - remodelled the Wolves and 1000 Sons for me.

Completely subjective - just stuff I have really enjoyed reading - too numerous to mention are the Heresy books - enjoyed them all.



Vinnie - December 21, 2012 07:52 PM (GMT)
1. Execution Hour by Gordon Rennie
2. Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden
3. Double Eagle by Dan Abnett
4. Night Lords Trilogy by Aaron Dembski-Bowden
5. The Legion of the Damned by Rob Sanders

These are all books that sit in what I call the 'Old School' category of 40k fiction, in that they all have a brooding sense of grandiose misery about them. They chronicle heroes (and villains) taking part in enormous events, but there is never any sense that true victory can be achieved. And critically they are all remarkably identifiable and relatable characters, despite a plethora of motivations and personality traits.

Honourable mentions go to:

The Emperor's Gift by Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Brothers of the Snake by Dan Abnett

Both of these give a hideously intimidating insight into just how lonely being an Adeptus Astartes (of any caste) actually is. The Legion of the Damned, the Night Lords Trilogy and Helsreach also all fall into this category. I think it is only in the wake of dire and desolate 40k fiction that we can really appreciate the pain and yearning of the Primarchs in 30k fiction, and the cruel inevitability of the Heresy itself.

My all time worst 40k novel is the Hunt for Voldorious by Andy Hoare. He missed the mark totally with the White Scars (in my opinion at least, which I guess can be forgiven), but mostly it was just a terrible story, appallingly paced with less character development than a low budget porn film.

Yvraith - December 21, 2012 09:11 PM (GMT)
I agree a great thread idea.


So here goes.

1. The Night lords Series by ADB (So good, I had to start a small army of them)

2. Gaunts Ghosts (all of them) - Dan Abnett (yes this is my guard army once I get around to painting them again... who needs tanks?)

3. Space Marine - Ian Watson (A classic)

4. Konrad Trilogy (not sure on the Author) - One of the first Warhammer Fantasy Series I read & I've re-read them many times.

5. Eisenhorn Series - Dan Abnett, just started (heresy I know) and already hooked.

As for non - BL books (aside from my love of Tolkien's work)

1. Gates of Fire - Steven Pressfield - Spartans at Thermopylae

2. Druss the Legend/Wolf In Shadow/Lion of Macedon - David Gemmell - I love the 3 main Characters in these

3. The Grail Quest Series - Bernard Cornwall - Adventures of An English Archer in the Hundred Years War.

4. The Dark Horde - Brewin (one of the guys I play Bloodbowl against wrote this, if you like lovecraftian horror it's for you.)

5. Dune (Series) - Frank Herbert (one of the best Sci-fi tales ever, even if it does waffle a bit in the middle of the series.)

BigWill - December 21, 2012 10:53 PM (GMT)
Oh Double Eagle is fantastic too.

ShadowCaptain - December 27, 2012 03:10 AM (GMT)
Great Idea
My choices would be~
1) Night Lord Trilogy by Aaron Dembski-Bowden ( A Night Lord Fanboy after reading this )
2) The Eldar Path Trilogy by Gav Thorpe (Cant wait for the Dark Eldar trilogy to be completed)
3) Gaunt's Ghosts by Dan Abnett
4) The Sundering Trilogy by Gav Thorpe (Getting the other Fantasy Trilogys Soon)
5) Tome of Fire by Nick Kyme

Honourable Mention
Iron Warrior Omnibus,
Prince of Crows ( Give more insight into my Fave Traitor Legion ),
Helsreach and Siege of Castellax as they both have marines facing Orks

lord_caldera - December 27, 2012 06:03 AM (GMT)
1) Night Lords trilogy by Aaron Dembski-Bowden
2) Know No Fear by Dan Abnett
3) Space Wolf by William King
4) Dark Apostle by Anthony Reynolds
5) Storm of Iron by Graham McNeill

I think that it is these books which most inhabit the qualities of Grimdark. I chose these because not only is there some sweet action, they all explore some deeper themes at play within the human and superhuman psyches. I don't think I have to explain why the Night Lords and "Know No Fear" are at the top. I think "Space Wolf", though it does really show its age, has been overlooked here. It's an introduction to the 40k universe for the reader through Ragnar, learning what it means to be Adeptus Astartes and why it is so much more and less than being human. "Dark Apostle" too is underrated. It's one of the few BL books where Chaos achieves something substantial, while displaying all of the intrigue and infighting they are known for. I think the best part of it though is the guard-turned-slave, who feels his life changing in ways he never imagined as he builds the Gehemaneht. And "Storm of Iron" is just a damn cool book.

Pacific - December 27, 2012 10:35 AM (GMT)
I thought Storm or Iron was great fun, and the kill-count has to be by far the highest of any BL book - almost like the BL version of John Woo's 'Hard Boiled', I just sat happily reading and munching on a corned beef sandwich as the millionth person in the book was blown up/vapourised/eviscerated :D

The Bill King Space Wolf books were again fun but I thought Prospero Burns really raised the bar (sorry I really hate that expression, but it's appropriate here!) in terms of changing the conception of Space Wolves into something that fits the increasingly po-faced 40k universe. Same to really with the Dark Apostle books, I don't think I could read it again after ADB's Night Lords books, and again I'm surprised to see the former on people's lists..

Deraj - December 27, 2012 04:25 PM (GMT)
Like about 90% of 40k players, I've grown a bit of a disdainful hatred for grey knights ever since their newest codex was released. I'm prefacing this that way so that you know when I say 'The Emperor's Gift' by ADB is now my favorite BL book that there's something to it.

Also; Bill King's space wolf books were what I read as a kid, but to be completely honest they, like the ultramarine series were ruined by their endings for me. On the other hand Bill King wrote Farseer, which has the kind of grimdark human side that Abnett is famous for without being.... drawn out, once again as abnett is famous for. And on that note, double eagle has to be on my list. it was just... different.

I think my top 5 would be:

1) The Emperor's Gift
2) Farseer
3) Storm of Iron
4) Double Eagle
5) Betrayer. (It's new, but... holy hell...)

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