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Title: Death of a Silversmith timeline
Description: Revelations or errors?


Marcoos - November 13, 2012 04:17 PM (GMT)
I've recently reread the Shadows of Treachery anthology, and must have paid far more attention to the short story Death of a Silversmith than I did the first time round (to be frank, first read was all about getting to Prince of Crows!).

Reading DoaS, I noticed what appears to me to be a serious error in the timeline, but maybe I am missing simething. Can anyone help shed light on this.

The facts as I understand them are (in brief and as relevant to DoaS):

The Emperor reconquered Terra through the Unification Wars at the end of the Age of Strife
Once complete, the Emperor embarked on the Great Crusade
During the Great Crusade, the Emperor was reunited with the Primarchs
200 years after the start of he Great Crusade we have Ullanor, the Emperor elevates Horus to Warmaster, etc

In DoaS, we have:
A human craftsman, born on Terra whilst the Unification Wars are ongoing, who is then around after the events on Ullanor over 200 years later. Is there a precedent for standard humans to live that long, or would he be subject to genetic enancement/rejuvenation?

Also, we have reference to Ferrus Manus being around as the Iron Hands fight a campaign on Terra. This presumably means Ferrus was oe of the earliest found Primarchs, who was brought back to Terra whilst some residual fighting was taking place (although this seems at odds with the fluff). Does this strie anyone else as odd?

BigWill - November 13, 2012 06:04 PM (GMT)
I know this ,just read it yesterday.
'I quickly established myself on board, and though my possessions were meagre, my wealth was substantial, and my vanity only scarcely less so. All of which allowed me to extend my span and retain the appearance of youth with superlative juvenat treatments.'

ShroudFilm - November 13, 2012 07:05 PM (GMT)
There was still fighting ongoing on Terra before the Horus Heresy began. There were lots of malcontents among the various nations of Old Earth.

TBH, this all seems fine to me - I don't recall seeing anything majorly out of line with the fluff, when the story first came in at BL Towers...

BigWill - November 13, 2012 07:08 PM (GMT)
Seems totally fine,humans live well into their 400's with juvenat treatments.
This is the story of the guy who put all the little skulls on Astartes Armor even if he made only 1 cent per skull he'd still be a billionaire :P

Markus Krell - November 13, 2012 07:37 PM (GMT)
Did we ever find out who had the gold medallion? Luna Wolves had silver and Death Guard had bronze; the Word Bearers perhaps? I also thought it was something to do with loyalty to the lodges etc., so assumed that there'd be a gold one.

Marcoos - November 13, 2012 07:38 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the replies. I've totally missed the juvenat treatment piece, thanks for posting that! Regarding ongoing fighting on Terra, I can buy into that (although I had always envisaged it as being much more of a final and total unification). I guess lessons from our own planet should have awakened me to the naivety of that!

ShroudFilm - November 14, 2012 01:10 AM (GMT)
The Pan-Pacific rebels are still going strong - in 'Blood Games' by Dan Abnett in the 'Tales of Heresy' collection, you see there's still a lot of dis-unity on Terra.

Also, in 'The Outcast Dead' you see that crime and local warlords flourish right outside the gates of the palace. Terra isn't any more peaceful than any modern city - I guess that's just not how humans are wired.




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