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Title: Nathaniel Garro
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Vredesbyrd - October 28, 2012 01:41 PM (GMT)
I'm currently toying with a few ideas as to how I want to do my PH army and one of the route I am considering going is a Dusk Raiders force led by Battle-Captain Garro. Being as how they're Dusk Raiders we're talking early Great Crusade here.

I know Garro's cuirass with the eagle on it was a gift from the Emperor for his role in the Unification Wars and that when we meet him for the first time in the novels he is resplendent in Mk IV plate, however, would he logically wear the cuirass over older armour earlier in the Crusade based on when the Mk IV was rolled out, or would it be accurate to have him in Mk IV and Dusk Raiders colours?

My second question is about Libertas, do we know if Garro always had this, or if this was something later acquired?

Ilmarinen - October 28, 2012 02:07 PM (GMT)
We don't yet know the exact timings, but since Mk2 was still in widespread use at Isstvan 3, I would imagine that the Dusk Raiders would not have had the later armour marks. (And personally, I think they would look a lot more pre-Primarch in Mk2).

I reckon the eagle cuirass would look great on Mk2.

Not sure about Libertas either, but (unless you're going to paint the name on the blade - if you are, fair play!) he would probably have had a big sword earlier on anyway!

ShroudFilm - October 28, 2012 05:27 PM (GMT)
Mark IV was VERY new at the time of 'Horus Rising'. The majority of the Legions wouldn't have had it, or at least not for long.

Battle-captain of the 7th Company was a fairly recent new title for Garro, IIRC?

Algrim Whitefang - October 28, 2012 07:56 PM (GMT)
To answer your questions Vredesbyrd, I do not believe it would be appropriate for Garro to wear an older mark of armour with the ornate cuirass and head eagle. From my understanding, this honour was reserved solely for the honour-rank of Battle-Captain of the 7th Company. This ceremonial piece was only worn by the Battle-Captain in combat or upon formal occasions.

According to the novel ''Flight of the Eisenstein'' the ancient Power Sword ''Libertas'' had no visible imperfections visible in the crystalline matrix of its monosteel blade. It was said that this ancient sword pre-dated even its bearer. Some elements of the weapon had been fabricated on Old Earth before the Age of Strife. Since it sounds like this was a master-crafted weapon, I highly doubt Garro would have possessed either such a fine weapon or the ceremonial cuirass as a line Astartes. He more than likely acquired these items from the former Battle-Captain of the 7th Company once he was raised up to take command as its new commander. This was common practice to pass items on from one commander to another.

In regards to the honourific "Battle-Captain," while many Legions had the tradition of giving the honorific of "First-Captain" to the commanding officer of the elite 1st Great Company, the Death Guard also held two more privileged titles, to be bestowed upon the leaders of the 2nd and 7th Great Companies, respectively. Thus, although they held no actual seniority over one another, Captain Ignatius Grulgor of the 2nd Great Company could carry the rank of "Commander" if he so wished, just as Nathaniel Garro, as Captain of the 7th Great Company, was known as "Battle-Captain."

Here's a pic of a Dusk Raider Legionary in their pre-Death Guard colours:

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Dusk Raider Legionary

Vredesbyrd - October 28, 2012 08:13 PM (GMT)
I can't remember where but its intimated in the novels that the Emperor himself gifted Garro with the eagle cuirass and I'm sure Libertas was similarly gotten - Garro was old by the time of Isstvan III after all - he's a veteran of the Wars of Unification so has been breaking heads possibly since the early days of the Dusk Raiders, I suppose we could even assume that Garro is the only Captain of the Seventh if he dates back that far...

Algrim Whitefang - October 28, 2012 08:28 PM (GMT)
I think your right on that. It is mentioned somewhere in the novel FoE that the cuirass was gifted to Garro by the Emperor himself, in honour of his deeds during the Wars of Unification. So who knows, maybe he was the only Battle-Captain of the 7th Company, since he heralds from the ancient Terran noble families of the small techno-barbarian state of Albia, where the XIV Legion originally recruited their first intake of Legionaries. If this is the case, then it would be appropriate to show Garro in an older mark armour wearing the aforementioned cuirass.

Ancient Rylanor - October 29, 2012 07:29 AM (GMT)
I think as of Isstvan III Garro is old but i get the idea that he was young back in the days of the Unification wars. Back then he was a rising star that was spotted by the Emperor and gifted with the Eagle Honer badge and sword. I also get the feeling that Garro was not the first and only Battle Captain of the Death Guard. Some battle of the unification Wars is responsible for the honer. A origin story would be really cool, i hope we get one.

MAXIMUS - October 31, 2012 08:25 PM (GMT)
i have a made a dusk raiders army just cant post any pictures any help to show how to post?




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