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Title: space marine super heavies

stormbird1 - July 6, 2012 11:23 PM (GMT)
Greetings all,

I was wondering if anyone knows of any super heavies used by the space marines. I looked in the pre-hersey vehicles and war machines but it doesn't have much on them. I know the fell blades are used but isn't there different versions of them? What other vehicles (super heavies) were used? Please indecaite source and or picture. Thanks.

Gagoc TheAncient - July 7, 2012 09:04 PM (GMT)
The Fellblades is a basic Baneblade analog, though some had Heavy Bolters instead of the lascannons.

The Mammoth seems to be A Shadowsword.

There is another that is either a Stormhammer or Stormlord analog.

There is also an un-named Super-Heavy APC with what could be a suitably large Flamestorm cannon. It is reminiscent of a Malcador.

There is a variant of the Fellblade, sponsons and small turrets probably armed with Autocannons, called a Decimator. Though this seems to be favoured by the forces of Horus during the Heresy.

There even seems to have been a Banehammer analog.

These all seem to appear in this picture from Epic:
user posted image

If you want anymore on this class of tank, I suggest you try the PH vehicle thread.

Draven - July 8, 2012 08:28 AM (GMT)
Know No Fear pages 285,287 mention Shadowswords in Ultramarine cobalt blue.

The Horus Heresy Collected Visions has several pictures,

Page 79 Fellblade in Sons Of Horus Colours.
Page 94 Reaver (looks like a Baneblade) in Deathguard Colours.
Page 287 Mordant Mammoth (looks like a Shadowsword) in Deathguard Colours

Hope this helps,

malika - July 8, 2012 08:44 AM (GMT)
Aren't flyers such as Thunderhawks and Stormbirds also superheavies?

The Iron Hands also seem to use a large transport known as a Mastodon, I imagine that's also kind of a superheavy.

What about the Land Raider Spartan?

Gagoc TheAncient - July 8, 2012 02:31 PM (GMT)
Malika, according to it's rules, a Spartan is a tank, Transport.
And it has Hull Points, whilst Super Heavies have Structure points.

Draven, I believe the 'Reaver' on page 94 of Collected Visions is the name of a Fellblade and not a seperate type of Tank.

Draven - July 10, 2012 05:20 PM (GMT)
[QUOTE]Draven, I believe the 'Reaver' on page 94 of Collected Visions is the name of a Fellblade and not a seperate type of Tank.

ah kk my bad

ShroudFilm - July 10, 2012 08:24 PM (GMT)
There is a Mastodon (and plenty of detailed descriptions!) in 'Fear to Tread'. Some people have already emailed BL to ask what that is, after reading the novel on pre-release...

Lord_Mortirion - July 11, 2012 08:25 PM (GMT)
anybody know where i can download a copy of said spacemarine book. unfortunatly mine has gone walkies

Gagoc TheAncient - July 11, 2012 10:41 PM (GMT)
Okay so the list of known Super-Heavy Tanks looks like this:

Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era. (Source: Collected Visions)

Pre-Heresy/Heresy-era (Source: Know No Fear)

Hercules Tank: (HH)

Decimator: (HH)

Unknown, probably pre-Heresy. It 'may' pre-date the Leman Russ (Source: Imperial Armour VI?)



Valdor Tank Hunter

Gorgon Armoured Assault Transport


Crassus Armoured Assault transport

Praetor Armoured Assault Launcher

Post-Heresy. Based on components used during the Great Crusade, but not produced until long afterwards (Source: Imperial Armour V)

Green is Pre- / Heresy era's, Yellow is unknown, and Red is definitely Post Heresy.

Can anyone help resolve the 'Yellows'?

ShroudFilm - July 11, 2012 11:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lord_Mortirion @ Jul 11 2012, 08:25 PM)
anybody know where i can download a copy of said spacemarine book. unfortunatly mine has gone walkies

eBay. Not sure what you mean by "download"...

Noserenda - July 29, 2012 09:30 AM (GMT)
Based on the comments about the Macharius being based on earlier components I was thinking about building some as Lupercal class heavy tanks. Cant imagine why that design might have been redacted after the heresy, then "rediscovered" later ;)

Thats a long term plan ofc.

Carralak - August 2, 2012 04:05 PM (GMT)
the crassus may well exist pre heresy, but if it does it'll come under a different name as in the 41st millenium it's named after one of Macharius' generals (Borgen Crassus) but it's STC originates from an "re-conquered forge world of Zhao-Arkkad". also there's another super heavy from the same forge world based on the crassus frame (no model available as yet) called the Dominus armoured siege bombard. the Praetor definately existed around the time of the Nova Terra In terregnum so it's possible it existed in during the heresy and there's nothing in it's name to suggest that it's a recent discovery.
all of this is from IA: apocalypse second edition. hope it helps

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