Title: Mark VI love
callmeishmael - April 25, 2012 06:04 PM (GMT)
I think we have all seen the pictures of the forge world Mark1V assault armour and very nice it looks too and theres rumours that they might be making a command squad in similar armour .So my question is do you think they might do the same with the MarkV1?
ShroudFilm - April 25, 2012 06:40 PM (GMT)
Mark VI assault jump packs are the basic plastic ones - the over-the-shoulder packs that we see on regular Space Marine armies. This is why some Chaos Legions have them in M41. :)
callmeishmael - April 26, 2012 12:25 PM (GMT)
If thats the case why is the plastic body a MarkV11 ?
BigWill - April 26, 2012 02:21 PM (GMT)
The plastic kit is 40k yes but even they still use old gear,the plastic kit is the design ad-mech determied ideal when it was all said and done.
Think of the FW kits as articifer armor
And remember a whole lot of data and info was lost to ad-mech during thier civil war.
So the top of the line in 40k could of and probally is inferior to its 30k counterpart.
Probally with the exception of backpack and bolter they use the same style gear as 40k especially now the rhinos and LR from that style are out.
So you can readily make a command squad using the plastic frame with FW mk6 upgrade.
I agree with you however I would like to see the FW upgrades covering all basic unit choices(HQ,Chaplains,Honor guards,ect)
setanta41 - April 26, 2012 11:57 PM (GMT)
Very large of you Big Will (no pun intended) to extend the olive branch! I was getting a little tense reading the tense exchange!!! B)
ShroudFilm - April 27, 2012 08:43 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (callmeishmael @ Apr 26 2012, 12:25 PM)|
| If thats the case why is the plastic body a MarkV11 ? |
The plastic kit is an M41 kit, i.e. the most common stuff found in M41. There are some Mark VIs on the sprue (1 in 10 Tacticals, I think? And 20% of the Assault Squad)
There is no new jump pack for Mark VII, either. They use the old Mark VI - it's a standard issue.
Trust me on this, I can speak with authority... :lol:
Ilmarinen - April 27, 2012 09:29 AM (GMT)
I don't recall there being a Mk6 assault/jumppack torso? They all look Mk7 to me.
There is a Mk5 torso (although some Mk6 art shows the same cable arrangement) on each tactical sprue, and a couple of chaos Mk5 torsos, but the only true Mk6 plastic torso is the old space wolf one with 3 cables and a fang necklace.
callmeishmael - April 27, 2012 09:59 AM (GMT)
Sorry for the bad vibes I offer the gauntlet of peace across the warp :wub: The reason I asked in the first place is ,if you look at the pictures of the MkIV[mark4]assult squad you can see that the frontal armour has been upgraded giving it a more chunky look .Just thought is might look sweet on the MKVI [mark6].Also some of the helm are slighty differant,again I`d love to see a variant of the Corvas helmet.The only one i`ve seen is on the 25 year anniversary modal with a slighty differant grill.
Ilmarinen - April 27, 2012 10:53 AM (GMT)
Completely agree - the more variant bits the better. Particularly helmets! :)
ShroudFilm - April 27, 2012 10:54 AM (GMT)
Ilmarinen - any plastic chest is acceptable for Mark VI, in M41. The armour becomes far less codified from the Heresy onwards.
There is a common misconception that all armour must be EXACTLY as it is presented in FW's images (or according to the specific images presented in the background)... for example, people taking a single Index Astartes sketch as THE ONLY possible appearance for pre-Heresy Word Bearers.
Callmeishmael - that would look cool. Go for it! :D
Ilmarinen - April 27, 2012 11:05 AM (GMT)
Yep, I realise there are lots of variations, and M41 is rather different - I was just mentioning that the plastic assault torsos are all standard Mk7s. Which is why I'm using the Mk5 assault torso for my Mk6 assault marines - fits the chunky cable look! :)
BigWill - April 27, 2012 12:08 PM (GMT)
What you plan with mk 6 heads on mk4 assault would totally work.
I am very sure there were units that only recieved the new advanced helm that would still fit the mk4.
Infact I would imagine that set-up would be even more common than pure mk6 during the siege
callmeishmael - April 27, 2012 12:43 PM (GMT)
I`d even like to see a MKVI with a bionic eye at least its a change.
ShroudFilm - April 27, 2012 12:54 PM (GMT)
Me too! I love that look -
Ilmarinen - April 27, 2012 01:36 PM (GMT)
It's a shame that FW make sets of shoulder pads, but not sets of just helmet variants.
BigWill - April 27, 2012 01:38 PM (GMT)
I would so buy 10-20 of the 25 aniversary helmets.
Even tried to remedy myself,with awful results
I fiend to make a diorama of Rouge Traders cover
setanta41 - April 27, 2012 02:40 PM (GMT)
Thank you Shroud for that very nice pic of the RG with the bionic eye. You guys inspire me......time to mangle some beakie heads to get that bionic eye look. I will post a pic when I am done. I figure that might go excellent with a tactical battle champion I am working on for my diorama.....he has the FW bionic leg, a FW bionic arm on the same side as the leg.....the bionic eye on the same side would give the impression of directional blast damage he had taken in the past.... you guys rock!
callmeishmael - April 27, 2012 03:59 PM (GMT)
While we are on the subject of the MKVI helm ,does anybody know what the little thingy on the top is ?Is it a light or a camera or as my missus thinks its a cigarette lighter !!
Ilmarinen - April 27, 2012 07:04 PM (GMT)
I'm pretty sure it's a lens
...but a cigarette lighter would be way more awesome! (time for a retcon Shroud?!) :lol:
BigWill - April 27, 2012 07:29 PM (GMT)
They could hook thier Ipod 22785 to it :lol:
Lord_Mortirion - August 31, 2012 04:32 PM (GMT)
theres a breakdown of the armour on one of the old books, not sure if its in rogue trader or one of the suppliments or space marine1st ed. ill try find it
BigWill - August 31, 2012 11:24 PM (GMT)
Apologist - September 3, 2012 12:02 PM (GMT)
|QUOTE (callmeishmael @ Apr 27 2012, 03:59 PM)|
| While we are on the subject of the MKVI helm ,does anybody know what the little thingy on the top is ?Is it a light or a camera or as my missus thinks its a cigarette lighter !! |
The offset crest thing? I was under the impression that it's an receiver for the vox-network (an armoured aerial, basically), but I don't think its ever been stated. Rogue Trader
shows how it breaks down:
...so perhaps it might be some extension of the autosense suite (a directional microphone, for example)?
Arden Fell - September 3, 2012 12:41 PM (GMT)
What I've always found quite scary about that cross section, is that head - exploded view.
Looking at it, the head of a MkVI has a circuit board where the face should be. There is almost no way a human head would fit in it.
Therefore was the "Beaky" adaption much more sinister than the other marks, in that they have to cut a marines face off (or at the very least his nose); thus making it's nickname a bit in bad taste . :o
Gagoc TheAncient - September 3, 2012 04:28 PM (GMT)
If you're talking about the bit I think you're talking about, then that's not actually the helmet. It is some form of cogitator for built-in Auspex units, which attaches to the back of the helmet.
As you can tell, the actual helmet is in front of that bit, with the 'beak' a seperate piece in front of the helmet.
Apologist - September 6, 2012 11:28 AM (GMT)
Yes, I agree with Gagoc. There was an old space marine labelled as 'sensor' (image linked here
– third row, second from the left) that has a similar bulbous expansion pack on his helm.
Arden Fell - September 6, 2012 11:40 AM (GMT)
Gagoc & Apologist - Ahhhhhhhhhh!
That makes sense now, seeing the mini with the massive bit on the back of his head.
I can sleep better tonight not thinking of faceless astartes under beaky helmets.
BigWill - September 7, 2012 10:46 AM (GMT)
There is another pic like that that shows the helmet on the head without mask.
Looks like an old GI JOE helmet from the 80's