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Title: The Technocracy
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Yvraith - January 18, 2008 12:13 PM (GMT)
What do you guys think of using a combination of the Imp Guard and Tau dexes to represent the technocracy forces?

Eg. Like the Chapter Approved Guula Auxillaries rules.

ShroudFilm - January 18, 2008 01:04 PM (GMT)
The Tau, certainly!

What did you have in mind from the IG list? I think their structure is a little too regimental for how I imagine the Technocracy.

Tiriel - January 18, 2008 03:13 PM (GMT)
Indeed the Tau correspond in a much better way, for the structure.

So +1 Shroud ^^

Horus Aximand - January 18, 2008 04:42 PM (GMT)
Indeed, T'au would make good Technocracy. The Kinebrach I always imaginged as midget Kroot, and for the elite shock-troops they have, perhaps some high-tech Astartes using the rules for battlesuits?

ShroudFilm - January 18, 2008 05:57 PM (GMT)
Are there any good simian ape-like minis out there?

Angron - January 18, 2008 07:35 PM (GMT)
Slab some hair on orks and they look very much like apes.

Vredesbyrd - January 18, 2008 07:54 PM (GMT)
Aye, whatever you do don't use the Kroot models - they're a nightmare to work with. I always imagined the Kinebrach to look like Gohan when he goes Super Saiyan in Dragonball Z, only less fanged and more armoured.

The new Half Trolls that are due out soon for Lord Of The Rings furred up could make good simians.

Yvraith - January 19, 2008 12:11 AM (GMT)
I was thinking of maybe modelling guardsmen with tau weapons etc.
As I mentioned before Chapter Approved has an Article on Guardsmen that joined the Greater Good,

Here's the link.

Tau Auxillaries

ShroudFilm - January 19, 2008 12:18 AM (GMT)
I imagined the Technocracy being far more hi-tech than Guardsmen, at least in appearance.

Yvraith - January 19, 2008 12:46 AM (GMT)
It was just a thought afterall, I just re-read the rules for them and they're not that good afterall.

So Tau it is. :)

BigWill - January 19, 2008 05:58 AM (GMT)
I'll never have the time for this but I always wanted to paint my old old R/t metal marine minis (the ones you see on Stuff of Legend)as the technocracy.
Compared to the new ones the're smaller and they have a funky old retro look that would fit the bill of Garviel saying they look so much like them.
I think they work perfectly.
Maybe I'll do one as a stand-alone

Lion El' Jonson - January 19, 2008 12:29 PM (GMT)
BigWill, thats actually a pretty good idea :lol: good thinking there, just give them a weapon changeover and there you go B)

BigWill - January 20, 2008 09:53 AM (GMT)
you don't even really have to do that unless the have a shurikin cannon.
Loken said something along the lines of they had bolters just like ours except theirs were empty.
I gotta read the descripiton for them again maybe a topknot
But I think I will make one of these guys for S&G

rohanboi - January 20, 2008 02:16 PM (GMT)
tau are great idea and use the stealth suits as the elite troops!

BigWill - January 20, 2008 06:23 PM (GMT)
Ya know was just digging through my sprues and found the RT01 beaky sprues I have.
They might just work too.

BTW can someone read through the book real quick and get a description of thier armour
(color,tabards,plumes on helmets ect)
I can't find my book :angry:

I'm already working on one damn you damn you all :P


ps. Here is a WiP comparison shot
user posted image

rohanboi - January 20, 2008 06:51 PM (GMT)
i thougth theyd be scrwnyier..
but looks good!

ShroudFilm - January 21, 2008 01:43 AM (GMT)
The older metal one-piece marines are a great idea!

Rogal Dorn - January 21, 2008 05:14 PM (GMT)
be sure to shave off the aquila on his forehead, i dont like the model that much but it can be made to look great. cant wait to see them finished

rohanboi - January 21, 2008 07:31 PM (GMT)
lol i bet no one could forget that nowa days the amount of nagging that happens :P

Rogal Dorn - January 21, 2008 08:25 PM (GMT)
on the painted marine is that iyanden darksun? or what? it would make a nice undercoat for my fists

Weiss - January 22, 2008 11:17 AM (GMT)
I think, size wise, he looks just right. Shame the old models look so poo...

Gagoc TheAncient - January 22, 2008 02:28 PM (GMT)
Here's some descriptions for the Technocracy's military force, the Brotherhood from False Gods, pages 341-343.

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Each warrior was armoured in fully enclosed plate, silver like the knights of old, with red and black heraldry upon their shoulder guards. Their form and function was horribly similar to that of the Sons of Horus, and though the enemy warriors were smaller than the Astartes, they were nevertheless a distorted mirror of them.


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They were courageous, these warriors of the Brotherhood, but they were hopelessly optimistic if they thought that simply wearing a suit of power armour made a man the equal of an Astartes.


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The man still lived, and Loken reached down to remove his helmet, a helmet so very similar to his own. He knew where the release catches were and slid the helm clear.


And here's some excerpts on their vehicles from page 340.

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'Take those ships out!' yelled Loken as the craft, sleeker, more elegant Thunderhawk variants, turned their guns towards them once again.


QUOTE
Three tracked vehicles smashed over a low ceramic brick wall behind them, their thick armoured forward sections emblazoned with a pair of crossed lightning bolts.

Rudolf The Red - January 22, 2008 07:03 PM (GMT)
I'm confused...
The Auterian Technocracy were the ones with power armour and the Interex were the ones with the Kinebrach allies right? or have I got it all wrong?

I thought the Technocracy would have used the Sisters of Battle codex, what with the brotherhood having Power armour and all.

GreyWolf - January 22, 2008 09:52 PM (GMT)
Ha! I knew that colour scheme sounded familiar. Check out the Space Marine army on pages 30 and 31 of Cities of Death; very close match (although these are obviously regular post- heresy marines).

Manneus Drath - January 24, 2008 06:09 AM (GMT)
Wow that model works nicely...since it is smaller than the present-day marine(them not being astartes and all) and looks chunkier.

Doghouse - February 10, 2008 08:44 PM (GMT)
I've often thought of doing this myself actually but I'd stick to the old Mk II and Mk III. Sisters of battle, as Rudolf pointed out, would be the perfect codex for them.

Weiss - February 20, 2008 01:02 PM (GMT)
Hmm, I wouldn't necessarily say MkII or MkIII, they seem to have more advanced Thunderhawks, so it could be reasonable that they also have more/just as advanced power armour. That's my personal opinion though...

Doghouse - February 22, 2008 10:30 PM (GMT)
I guess it depends on what the source for the Mk IV armour was I guess.
If it was just an STC pattern then they'd likely have access to it, however if it was developed by the Ad.mech based on what they'd learnt from the previous marks then it's possible that their armour design might take another path.

Kharn - February 23, 2008 05:30 AM (GMT)
I made a technocracy trooper a couple months ago according to one of the grey knights books.

Theyre described as wearing copper "enviromental" armor with red cloaks in the book. I'd guess that it would be like imp guard legs, tau chests, imp guard arms and a mix between a lasgun and a tau rifle. For the head id jus go for a imp guard cadian head with like a gas mask or something for the face to look a little more "techno".

Torg - February 23, 2008 09:31 AM (GMT)
So they are back,in 40k times?Wow!I thought the Sons of Horus annhilated them?
Am I wrong? :o :huh:

Kharn - February 24, 2008 09:14 AM (GMT)
Oh, woah, i might be thinking of a different race.
My bad guys!!! I thought you were talking about Mars. I saw tech-nocracy and kinda blanked.

CDR Grendelwulf - February 25, 2008 01:11 AM (GMT)
Ok, I am confuzzled.

By Technocracy, are the false Emperor & his Invisible guardians of 6319 being referred to?
Or, do you mean the Interex with the Sagitary?

6319 had the warriors armoured like Astartes, right?
The Interex had warriors in dark green & silver tight-fitting armour (more like Eldar), some of which rode centaur-style in headless automaton horses. And they also had the blue-black skinned Kinebrach.

I was curious as I don't recall the Interex having Astartes-like fighters, but I've read references here to the Kinebrach.

Or, does this thread include all such Technocracies?
Are GW ones the only ones under consideration for discussion?
Or is there room for other DIY advanced humans?

Ciao,
CDR Grendelwulf

Weiss - February 25, 2008 08:22 AM (GMT)
I don't see why you can't make your own... There are billions of worlds after all, and the books started towards the end of the Crusade, so there's plenty of room for other such civilisations.

Vredesbyrd - February 25, 2008 01:46 PM (GMT)
CDR Grendelwulf - we're talking about the Auretian Technocracy with its Emperor, though the Interex have got mixed up in here too.

Gagoc TheAncient - February 25, 2008 11:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vredesbyrd @ Feb 25 2008, 01:46 PM)
CDR Grendelwulf - we're talking about the Auretian Technocracy with its Emperor, though the Interex have got mixed up in here too.

The 'Emperor' was on 63-19.
The Auretian Technocracy was lead by individuals with titles like 'Fabricator Consul'. This may indicate an organisation with similarities to the AdMech.

It was the Brotherhood, protectors of the Technocracy, who wore the Power Armour which most likely resembled Mk4 armour of the Astartes judging by the reaction of the Sons of Horus when they first see them.

CDR Grendelwulf - February 26, 2008 02:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Weiss Posted on Feb 25 2008, 08:22 AM
I don't see why you can't make your own...

I suppose so, especially since there were three such civilizations within the first two HH books: 63-19's Imperium, the Interex, & the Auretian Technocracy.

Thanks for clearing the confusion, Vredesbyrd & Gagoc.

So, if I have things straight now..

1. 63-19 Imperium
63-19 standard PA trooper had magenta armour & silver shoulder trim
63-19's Invisible Guardians were in silver with crimson robes with lancelike weapons.

Could the Invisibles be equivalent to Tau Stealth troops?
Or, perhaps, Necron Wraiths? Necron rules may not be bad to represent them, minus the "I'll Be Back" rule.


2. Interex
Interex troops were more eldar-like with the less bulky body armour and cosmetically altered ears and facial tatoos. Their suits were silver and dark green.
The Sagittary rode headless automaton steeds (appearing as tech-centaurs).
The Kinebrach were a mix of Ork and Kroot (at least that strikes me as the best conversion, modelwise).

Rulewise: Eldar mixed with Imperial Guard? Kinebrach as Ogryns?

3. Auretian Technocracy
MEQ in silver power armour with red/black shoulder guards.
Their Fabricator Consul was in red robes, so presumably any taberds/robes/etc in the army follow this scheme. Chapter insignia may be crossed lightning bolts.

Rulewise: Space Marine, or maybe Daemon or Witch Hunters?

Ciao,
CDR Grendelwulf

Weiss - February 26, 2008 08:54 AM (GMT)
Witchunters in my opinion. They're normal men, just in power armour. Plus the inquisitor and retinue would suit well for the Fabricator

robert_the_damned - February 26, 2008 01:44 PM (GMT)
Has anyone thought about using the very old Power Armoured figures for the troops of 63-19? the ones with the very odd looking bolters (ie not the RT fairly standard marines but the slightly older ones).

I know these are mk6 looking troops but they might serve well for getting the PA look without it looking as heavy as a full space marines armour.

Anyway Just a thought I had.


Weiss - February 26, 2008 01:51 PM (GMT)
Good idea. If you have a "true-scale" army, it's even easier: just use the standard models...

Vredesbyrd - February 26, 2008 02:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gagoc TheAncient @ Feb 25 2008, 11:47 PM)
The 'Emperor' was on 63-19.
The Auretian Technocracy was lead by individuals with titles like 'Fabricator Consul'. This may indicate an organisation with similarities to the AdMech.

It was the Brotherhood, protectors of the Technocracy, who wore the Power Armour which most likely resembled Mk4 armour of the Astartes judging by the reaction of the Sons of Horus when they first see them.

Ah.

So is it the Technocracy that are about to surrender when Angron explodes out of a mound of rubble and slaughters them all?




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