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Iron Corsair - April 9, 2010 01:04 PM (GMT)
Hi guys,

Well, mostly for display purposes and to make myself better at painting, I've decided to create some Iron Warriors; maybe true scaled, maybe not. Now, I have a few questions though about them:

1. Do we know how many companies/grand companies/*insert name* companies there were?

2. How long after the Siege of Terra was the Iron Cage incident?

3. How long was the Scouring?

Thanks in advance.

P.S.: I intend to get Storm of Iron soon, possibly next weekend since surprisingly, I saw a book store still carrying it. Hopefully it's still there.

The Red Sorcerer - April 12, 2010 10:43 AM (GMT)
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1. Do we know how many companies/grand companies/*insert name* companies there were?

I don't think its been mentioned anywhere. The Iron Warriors have 'Grand Companies' post-heresy, so I assume they were called Grand Companies pre-heresy as well.
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2. How long after the Siege of Terra was the Iron Cage incident?

It was just before the second Founding which occured in 021.M31 (according to the IF Index Astartes, it was Guilliman's call for the Legions to be broken up which prompted Dorn to 'clense' the Legion by attacking the Iron Cage).
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3. How long was the Scouring?

I think older background stated it was 7 years. Not sure if that still holds though.

Iron Corsair - April 12, 2010 10:35 PM (GMT)
Thanks, Red! I ask because I've been thinking of making an army of Iron Warriors set during the Scouring/Iron Cage incident with a twist.

Lord Commander Lucius - April 13, 2010 12:17 AM (GMT)
Sorry for highjacking the thread but what does Red Sorcerer mean when he refers to Dorn 'cleansing' the legion? That almost sounds like Dorn intended the high casulties he was to suffer at the Iron Cage.

Iron Corsair - April 13, 2010 02:30 AM (GMT)
Well, if I remember reading that from somewhere else, Dorn was not happy with some of the Heresy vets for some reason, and thought that younger recruits would be better.

The Red Sorcerer - April 13, 2010 10:11 AM (GMT)
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That almost sounds like Dorn intended the high casulties he was to suffer at the Iron Cage.

Thats because he did - at least according to the Imperial Fist Index Astartes, which having a pro-IF spin on it has to somehow justify why they got the smack laid down on them hard at the Iron Cage. Of course, going by the IW Index Astartes it was simply that Dorn was arrogant and stubborn enough to plunge straight into Peturabo's trap and refuse help from the other Legions. On balance, I'd go for a little from column A, a little from column B. :)

Basically, Dorn was not happy about the call to break up his Legion into Chapters. He eventually decided it was necessary to break up the Legions in order to hold the Imperium together, but felt that many of his Legions veterans would not be willing to leave the IF, and led these veterans to attack the Iron Cage. One of the quirks of the IF geneseed is a tend towards masochism (see their frequent use of the 'Pain Glove') so deliberately bringing suffering upon themself is part of their character. The idea to prove their loyalty by suffering through the Iron Cage battle, taking the heavy casualties so that the remainder of the veterans would be small enough to remain the IF at Chapter size, while the newer recruits went on to found new Chapters of their own.

Dorn's death shows a similar principle. He felt that the remaining Primarch's were becoming worshipped by the populace, and this was unhealthy for the Imperium. His response was to deliberately sacrifice himself in a suicidal attack on a Chaos battle ship (that nonetheless won the day in true heroic fasion, despite resulting in his death).




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