Title: Possessed World Eaters / Berzerkers
Dallas Drake - January 12, 2010 10:38 PM (GMT)
A question I'm not able to answer using the usual sources requires help, so please help!
Did some World Eaters become possessed during the Horus Heresy (mid-late period, or there after even) and if so were they Berzerkers or what? I know they slew their Librarians but surely Possession would have occurred?
I ask because I'm modeling a squad of mid-late heresy Berzerkers & to make them stand out (and proxy for Death Company) I'm using possessed bodies and heads, I'm still giving them bolt pistols & chain axes & normal Berzerker legs but it's the heads & bodies that I want looking mean hence possessed bits (not like I'm going to field possessed under the current codex anyway).
I don't want to use my precious resin pre heresy jump packs on them if it means I'm inaccurate or way off.
So to sum up. Heresy era Possessed World Eaters? Yes or No!?
Any help would be most appreciated!!
ShroudFilm - January 12, 2010 11:55 PM (GMT)
Whoa... imagine that! :blink:
I don't see why not, it's as canonical as you want it to be. I do think though, IMHO, that Khorne might protect his most fervent followers from possession - an angry person who can kill as much as a daemon anyway? Just save the daemon for someone else! :lol:
Having said that, I'd love to see what you could come up with. A test model, perhaps?
DaemonlordAbraxes - January 13, 2010 01:18 AM (GMT)
If i were Khorne (which thank the Imperator i'm not) i'd make them possessed, they can kill 2x times as much :lol:
Dallas Drake - January 13, 2010 06:53 AM (GMT)
I had this reply from another forum,
''You dont necessarily have to have been worshipping Chaos for X amount of years to be possessed. It can happen immediately and completely.
Xayver Jubal in the Whisperheads on Sixty-Three Nineteen for example wasn't even aligned to Chaos, but became possessed because his anger/jealousy acted as a focus for the Warp Powers to exploit (and the World Eaters were full of such emotions - Anger and Rage anyway).
Another example is the cover art of 'The First Heretic', which shows a possessed Word Bearers Astartes during the heresy. (Although someone may point out that the Word Bearers had been worshipping Chaos for many years prior to the Heresy, and the World Eaters hadn't - this really isn't an issue though considering my first point)
Also Daemon Princes (elevated from the Traitor Legions) were around before the Siege of Terra, which can only be said to further the idea that possessed marines were also around.
Possessed Heresy-Era World Eaters are not only plausable but were almost certainly present during the Heresy.''
I think it proves or at least validates my idea.
I will post a test model in the next few days (unpainted) & will start painting soon, very excited by this prospect :)
The Red Sorcerer - January 13, 2010 11:50 AM (GMT)
Yup, I'd definitely say Possesed World Eater Berzerkers would be appropriate for the Heresy period. The Jubal point is well made, and seeing as the World Eaters took to their new devotion to Khorne with great enthusiasm and devotion (and were hardly the most well balanced and restrained of Legions to starrt off with) they would be prime candidates. Particularly considering the Daemonic presence that was widespread at some of the later Heresy battles (the siege of Terra comes to mind).
We know possesed marines were around during the Heresy, certainly in use by the Word Bearers (see the First Heretic cover and Collected Visions) almost certainly the Sons of Horus (their Index Astartes mentions marines 'willingly giving their bodies to possession by Daemons in emulation of their dead Primarch' immediately after the Heresy, so it probably occured during as well) the Emperor's Children (Fulgrim for one, and the performance of the Maraviglia on Fulgrim's flagship suggests that other summoning and possession rituals would have occured as the Heresy continued) and the Death Guard Index Astartes certainly suggests possesion was a factor in the corruption of many of the other Legions too (unlike other Legions, 'Horus did not need to resort to ritual possession to win the Death Guard to his side').
Looking forward to some test models!
Dallas Drake - January 13, 2010 06:26 PM (GMT)
Wow thanks for the replies & advice/knowledge guys!
Here are some shots as they are now (filing, undercoating & Badab wash stage). I hope to have this squad of 6 done by the end of January so I will post pics of them when I get going... All I need to do now is settle on a model for my heresy era Chaplain (as they're DC naturally), and there are no pictures etc of World Eaters Chaplains... so I need my thinking cap on!
Excuse the bluetac etc but I always assemble once I've painted all the bits.
Hope you approve :)
ShroudFilm - January 13, 2010 07:54 PM (GMT)
Good start! At the moment though, they all look a bit too friendly... :D
Have you considered getting some bare flesh and muscles involved? The Chaos Marauders and the Catachans sprues have great arms and chests you could use here.
Khorne was not a big fan of sorcery and mutations, but you should definitely get some nasty teeth, snarls and muscles in there somehow.
You have inspired me to go back to my WE Berserkers though!
EDIT: As for WE Chaplains, this was my WIP version a year or so ago...
I used Berserker pads, and just made him look like a screaming nutcase. The severed heads help.
Dallas Drake - February 17, 2010 06:23 PM (GMT)
So, I went for the safe 'unpossessed' option. Only 37 more to do!