Description: Any Info??
Hero of Istvaan - December 2, 2009 05:54 PM (GMT)
well as some of you know im doin a PH fist army and so far its led by sigismund pre-emperors champ
Im planning on using them for the forth coming AoTE event in may and ive added a few characters form the TF rules pack including Rogal Dorn and Archamus
but so far im at a loss with the iconography of the huscarls :huh:
so if anyone has any idea or could point me in the right direction :blink:
Hero of Istvaan - January 21, 2010 04:09 PM (GMT)
anyone got anything? :( :unsure:
The Red Sorcerer - January 21, 2010 04:54 PM (GMT)
Sadly, what we know about the Huscarls is limited to one brief reference in The Lightning Tower that refers to 'Dorn's Huscarl retinue'. Presumably they are a bodyguard unit of some sort, and we know they are led by Archamus. Thats it as far as official info goes.
We can assume that they were probably drawn from the 1st Company, in which case their colour scheme would most likely have been yellow armour, Imperial Fist symbol in the standard place, and the Templar Cross on a black and white pad on the other side both to show their Captain's heraldry (Sigismund) and denote their vetaran status. Horus Rising and The Dark King confirm that both Sigismund and the 1st Company wore yellow armour with black heraldry, so this definitely seems the best way to represent them.
Hero of Istvaan - January 21, 2010 06:08 PM (GMT)
thanx Red' that was pretty much wot i thought <_<
there is also a brief ref to them in 'Tales of Heresy: Blood Games' B)
ShroudFilm - January 21, 2010 10:15 PM (GMT)
I envisage them wearing fur in some manner, looking a bit more feral than the average Imperial Fists. I think this is because my brain equates "huscarl" with vikings...
Huscarls/Housecarls were household troops, personal warriors and equivalent to a bodyguard to Scandinavian lords and kings.
I'd pinch a few bits from the SW sprues, and try to tie it in with the fur cloak that Dorn is described as wearing in The Lightning Tower.
VESPASIAN - January 21, 2010 10:25 PM (GMT)
Just remember not to confuse Imperial Fist Huscarls with Death Guard Housecarls!...It could be embarrassing having your elite Imperial Fist unit looking like the Death Guards servants! :lol:
The Imperial Fist's First Company is also distinguished by black trim on the armour:
|QUOTE (The Flight of the Eisenstein @ Page 331)|
|Sigismund and the other Imperial Fists in the black-trimmed armour of the First Company were as still as statues|
Also in Tales of Heresy it states that:
|QUOTE (Tales of Heresy @ Page 52)|
|Six of them were Adeptus Astartes in full battle armour, instantly recognisable as huscarls of the Imperial Fists.|
So whatever their distinguishing armour/colour scheme/mark etc was; the excerpt suggests that it was somthing that was unique and instantly recognisable.
Hero of Istvaan - January 22, 2010 09:45 AM (GMT)
this is all really good stuff guys cheers! B)
seeein as it is all pretty non-discriptive would it be wise to suggest that the colour/iconography of the huscarls could be left to artistic license? :unsure:
im thinking old mk's (perhaps 2 or 3?) of armour in polished gold with black trim and fists icon's and snow leopard fur draped over their shoulders?
The Red Sorcerer - January 22, 2010 12:42 PM (GMT)
I'm thinking Mk III armour would be by far the most appropriate - certain Legions apparently favoured it for ceremonial guards (sounds like the Huscarls to me!) and the Imperial Fists would almost certainly have been one of these Legions seeing as Mk III fitted in with their siege warfare mentality anyway.
I think entirely gold armour for a bodyguard unit might be a bit over the top, at least for the Imperial Fists - leave that sort of thing for the Blood Angels. After all, even Sigismund himself, Captain of the 1st and most senior in the Legion after Dorn, still seems to wear yellow armour going by the novels.
After all, with ornate Mk III armour and pelts/animal skins, along with the Templar Cross incorperated into their heraldry, they should be looking fairly distinctive already...
Apologist - January 22, 2010 12:45 PM (GMT)
That description sounds good to me!
You might consider using the Fantasy Chaos Warriors set for fur-trimmed and archaic-looking armour.
The 14th Expedition - December 8, 2011 09:34 PM (GMT)
I considered Huscarls wearing yellow MKIII Iron Armour, but armed with power swords and shields of some description, seeing as the Imperial Fists were fans of using swords (the Forgeworld ones from the Boarding Assault Upgrade set might be useful).
Sorry about the thread necromancy... but since I'm plotting a version of Hucarls for my Imperial Fists I felt an opinion was needed.