Title: The Visual Codex Project
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Mithras - January 30, 2008 05:13 AM (GMT)
This is a dedicated thread for submissions of work and discussion thereof related to the Visual Codex Project.
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renlegunvrs - January 31, 2008 03:31 AM (GMT)
I was reading the 30k bell of lost souls rules. Why would the nightlords not use a fellblade if they liked to use overwhelming force? Im thinking not much other than a titan is more "forceful". My other beef is why are they like the white scars? They should be more along the lines of the Raven guard lots of assault with a bit of heavy support? I can dig the lots of troops thing but i dont know just dosnt feel right to me.....Any sugestions or thoughts?
Arven - January 31, 2008 03:59 AM (GMT)
NL are very 'strike from the darkness' mainly because they liked to cuase terror and panic. Something as obvious as a Fellblade might scupper their planns for surprising an enemy.
Fortronus - January 31, 2008 04:10 AM (GMT)
My guess on the Fellblade it think's not so much overwhelming and lighting fast. Hint them hard fast adn move and i don;t think they see the super heavy as doing that.
As for being more like the White Scar's and bikeing and such. My guess there woud have to been when they where founded. Being close to the front 5th i think. Jump pack being really rare or not even made yet they go with the next best thing Bikes. Where with the Raven gaurd being 19th in the line got the new and maybe more common at the tiem jump pack. or just got to train with them better frist. just my 2 cents
renlegunvrs - January 31, 2008 01:27 PM (GMT)
I can understand the fellblade i guess. Its not very stealthy but a legion that prides itself on using fear not using a machine that causes fear by its very pressence just grates on me. Maybe i just want to use one too much lol.
Maybe ill just get one as a command tank for apocalypse anyway lol. The whole a thousand small victories instead of one big battle does kinda explain why you cant have one though.
Im not shure that works either, as the night lords were the ones that invented the raptor squads. therefor they would have had access to the jetpack. Most likely even using it more than any other chapter due to the fact the others didnt see the potential it had. I dont see how the Raven guard would have raptor companies and the night lords would not when the fluff specifically talks about the Raptor companies. It makes me think that the bikes should be dropped for the raptors.
(ie in the companies in the bell of lost souls rules). It just feels more like them to me. Maybe im just looking at it the wrong way but see it more as an overwhelming the enemy so its not a fair fight type thing. It says that they try to avoid a stand up fight when someone can beat them not that they hit and run ala white scars. they prefer to to ovrwhelm the enemy like a hammerblow.
hmmmm think ill have to look for my old epic space marine army list might be something in there that would help.
Fortronus - January 31, 2008 07:04 PM (GMT)
Goign back and reading the BoLS rules on them. I guess i'm abit lost now because under there rules and traits they have Death from above witch let's you upgrade any number of uints to have jump pack and a command squad to if you wanted it. Isn't this what you where looking for ?
renlegunvrs - February 1, 2008 03:06 AM (GMT)
yes thats great but when there are only 2 squads in a company how is that a raptor company? That was my issue. Should they not have more like the ravenguard ie 4 squads per company? Just wondering. As they are supose to have more than any other traitor legion. As for the upgrading any assault squad woo hoo! lol.
Fortronus - February 1, 2008 03:46 AM (GMT)
I agree with you on the Night lords thing by the way hehe. Not sure why they had them made them they way they did. I was just just to figured out maybe something behind the resaoning on it.
Doghouse - February 9, 2008 10:53 PM (GMT)
I always seen them as using overwhelming force, so think Fellblades would be perfect for them.
Here's a part of my old Night Lords log over on B&C that sums up how I see them quite well.
***Removed text to avoid spoilers for the Tales of the Great Crusade Comp*** :)
As a Legion I'd say that they were big on overwhelming displays of power and force, especially against inferior enemies.
The wearing of enemy skulls on the visors of their helmets was also practiced as were terror markings.
I'd say that they fought much like any other Legion but were humourless and impassionate towards their enemies.
I can't see them having the same comaraderie that was seen amongst the Luna Wolves in Horus Rising for example.
renlegunvrs - February 16, 2008 03:23 PM (GMT)
very good read :) I would have to agree its always more terifying and demoralizing fighting against superior equip. and troops.
Weiss - February 18, 2008 10:00 AM (GMT)
That's a great scene, I just love the off-hand manner they have...
Torg - February 27, 2008 09:09 AM (GMT)
I had a little problem last night trying to make the Night Haunter,he turned out
looking like Glenn Danzig facially,(Couln't find a good face for him!)(Arghh! :( )
However it kinda fits him actually! And he looks kinda more eviler! The head I
used was the Bretonian head with a circlet on his brow,with some green stuff
to make his hair long. :)
Gagoc TheAncient - March 9, 2008 07:31 PM (GMT)
I'd like to put these guys forward as my contribution.
Eventually I should have a Predator to add.
Weiss - March 10, 2008 08:39 AM (GMT)
Did you mix in a metal with that blue Gagoc?
Gagoc TheAncient - March 11, 2008 01:32 AM (GMT)
It's actually my oldest personal painting technique.
I paint the blue areas UMB, sometimes I roughly paint in a darker blue into the recesses and lighter blue where I want highlights, then I paint over it with a mix of UMB and blue ink.
After that it's washes and drybrushing, and a thin coating of blue glaze.
Torg - July 9, 2008 04:35 AM (GMT)
Here is a pic of the night Haunter allied with the Ultra marines for awhile,
(Note the tanks, ;) )
Algrim Whitefang - August 6, 2010 12:16 AM (GMT)
I thought I would add some excellent reference pics for the Pre-Heresy Night Lords. I'll start off with a classic.
The Night Lords doing what they do best-terrorizing.
Another excellent example of fearsome visage of a Night Lord Space Marine! Behind him, looms the Warmaster.
Last but not least, this pic really portrays the horror of having to face these fearsome warriors.
Hope this inspires everyone! Enjoy!
Pacific - August 6, 2010 12:56 AM (GMT)
A great first post, thanks for those Algrim! That first pic is one of my favourite ever pieces of 40k art :)
Algrim Whitefang - August 7, 2010 05:50 AM (GMT)
I just had to add this (not mine of course), but this is probably one of the best renditions I've seen for this particular character; in all his glory, I present to you Kurze-The Nighthaunter!
Iron Corsair - August 7, 2010 02:02 PM (GMT)
Wow! That is insanely cool! Thanks for sharing!
Supreme_Overlord - February 18, 2011 09:42 AM (GMT)
Very cool Night Haunter--if only he had two lightning claws instead...
Algrim Whitefang - March 25, 2011 10:56 PM (GMT)
A couple more images of our favorite brooding Legion's Primarch - Konrad Curze aka The Night Haunter:
-Pre-Heresy Konrad Curze, during the Great Crusade era
- The Night Haunter in all of his horrifying, dark glory
malika - August 29, 2011 07:42 PM (GMT)
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