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Title: PH Spelling and Pronunciation Guide
Description: A work-in-progress


ShroudFilm - January 27, 2008 12:00 AM (GMT)
A few people have raised the question of pronunciations recently - maybe it's worth having a guide to various specific names and words?

Off the top of my head, here are a few which have come up in the past:

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Abaddon ABB-uh-DON
Spoken by Andy Chambers and Dan Abnett, needs to be different from the biblical 'uh-BAD-on'.

Daemon DEE-mun
Spoken by many GW studio people, phonetically identical to 'demon'.

Davin DAV-inn
Spoken by Dan Abnett, similar to the Star Wars planet 'Yavin', as opposed to "David" with an 'n'.

Ezekyle ezz-uh-KYL
Different from Biblical and Dark Angels 'Ezekiel'.

Hastur Sejanus HASS-ter sij-ARN-uss
Spoken by Dan Abnett, who finds any pronunciation with "anus" to be a little distasteful.

Istvaan/Isstvan ist-VAHN
Different spellings over the years give more clues as to it's pronunciation.

Kinebrach KINN-ur-brahk
Spoken by Dan Abnett, as opposed to 'KYNE-brack' or 'KYNE-bratch'.

Konrad Curze KON-rad KURZ
BL audio book, as opposed to 'kurts' or 'KUR-zah'.

Roboute Guilliman ruh-BOO-tay GILL-ih-mun
BL audio book, as opposed to 'ROH-boot' or 'GULL-ih-mun'.

Ullanor ULL-an-orr
As opposed to 'ooh-lan-or' which would presumably have only one L?


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If anyone can submit any more, please state the authority by which you can prove the pronunciation, and I'll edit them into this post. Reliable canon prounciations will be highlighted in blue.

If you have any pronunciation queries, please post them too!

Brother Handro - January 28, 2008 12:03 AM (GMT)
OK, here's 1 for you...

Ezekyle.

Ez-ee-kyle or Ez-uh-kyle? Or maybe even Ez-ee-kuh-yul? Or something else entirely?


Arven - January 28, 2008 12:13 AM (GMT)
EZ-uh-KYLE

I like good pronunciation :)

Magos Explorator - January 28, 2008 12:18 AM (GMT)
Not trying to be unhelpful, but...

I think in an Imperium of a million worlds (or fewer, but still a lot) the innumerable variations in accent mean you'll get a lot of different pronunciations of assorted names. Particularly as many of the names used are biblical, and the way we write and say them now is not the same as the way (or the script) they were originally written in or spoken in, I don't think it will matter too much whether an individual stresses the first or second syllable in Abaddon or whatnot. And as a lot of the names an imagery are lifted from real-world myth and legend without any apology or pretence, I don't think we need to try to ensure names sound different from their real-world inspirations (especially given, as I've said, our current pronunciations aren't the originals either).

Names of planets, races and so on are, I'd suggest, more useful to have. :) So I'll put in a generic request for Ullanor, Isstvan (Istvaan? I think the name is different in different fluff) and so on, if anyone has it.

Arven - January 28, 2008 12:45 AM (GMT)
OOL-an-OR

IST-vahn
(like German ist, or like in english hiss; long aah aound)

I obviously can't be totally sure on those, particularly Istvaan (Isstvan is a misspelling, I think), since it's obviously not an english word, so you can't just apply english pronunciation.

Vredesbyrd - January 28, 2008 01:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Arven @ Jan 28 2008, 12:45 AM)
OOL-an-OR

IST-vahn
(like German ist, or like in english hiss; long aah aound)

I obviously can't be totally sure on those, particularly Istvaan (Isstvan is a misspelling, I think), since it's obviously not an english word, so you can't just apply english pronunciation.

There's been two spellings - Isstvan and Istvaan - one from the Index Astartes articles and the other from the Horus Heresy novels, though I can't remember which way round.

follieslabour - February 1, 2008 07:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Arven @ Jan 28 2008, 12:13 AM)
EZ-uh-KYLE

I like good pronunciation :)

Ezekiel is an Hebrew name and is pronunced:

Ee-ZEE-Kee-EL

For those that are interested Ezekiel means "God will Strengthen". Most Dark Angels have names with the suffix -el, which is a Hebrew name of God.

As an interesting side note Azriel (pron: Az-Ree-el; "Whom God Helps") is the Islamic, and sometimes Jewish, Angel of death.

Arven - February 1, 2008 01:19 PM (GMT)
That's right concerning Ezekiel, the Dark Angels Librarian, but I think Brother Handro was referring to Ezekyle Abaddon.

Magos Explorator - February 2, 2008 04:26 PM (GMT)
They're translations into a different script of handwriting of the same name, so I'd imagine they're pronounced the same. :)

Arven - February 2, 2008 11:31 PM (GMT)
Touche. I didn't realise it was conneected to Ezekiel. Seems a very strange way to pronounce Ezekyle. What language/script is this from?

Magos Explorator - February 3, 2008 03:41 PM (GMT)
Well, it is Biblical, so I'd assume the original would have been in Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic, none of which use our script. Plus it may have been an orally-told story before being written down. Afraid I'm not much of a Bible scholar, though!

Vredesbyrd - February 3, 2008 03:49 PM (GMT)
As Ezekiel is a Hebrew name I'd guess that it will have originally been written in Hebrew. Several Hebrew letters have a couple of possible cognates in English, like many pictographic styles of writing, which could quite easily give rise to the two differing spellings of what seems to be the same name.

ShroudFilm - July 10, 2008 09:41 PM (GMT)
New added.

Horn - September 9, 2008 06:57 PM (GMT)
I just noticed the delicious flaw in this mighty thread of spelling.

Pronuciation is spelt wrong.

Yvraith - September 10, 2008 06:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Horn @ Sep 10 2008, 04:57 AM)
I just noticed the delicious flaw in this mighty thread of spelling.

Pronuciation is spelt wrong.

Well spotted Horn! Have a piece of cake! :D

Fixed!

ShroudFilm - September 10, 2008 01:05 PM (GMT)
That's a piece of cake and an hour with Keira Knightley to you, sir! :D

Horn - September 10, 2008 01:17 PM (GMT)
And I thought my eye for grammar was a CURSE!


Brother Tiriel - September 10, 2008 01:19 PM (GMT)
Damned? an hour? that may be too short... xD

Anyway, another contest to make us win the same prize? :D

Lord_Mortirion - October 9, 2008 03:59 PM (GMT)
i used to have a book called 'the dictionary of devils and demons'

when i was younger i thought it would come in handy being a chaos player... ill see if it is still at me mums as it has pronounciation for the words as well. and whaddya know, all the gw names were inthere...

Ilmarinen - November 2, 2010 11:43 AM (GMT)
According to Garro - Oath of Moment Guilliman is now pronounced Gooleyman! GOOLEY-MAN!!! :lol:

ShroudFilm - November 2, 2010 02:25 PM (GMT)
SILENCE! Have you heard Toby Longworth's Malcador?? The guy is on crack or something...

Ilmarinen - November 2, 2010 02:49 PM (GMT)
So that's what Malcador's got burning on the top of his staff! "I'm the right hand of the Emperor ...I got the biggest crack pipe evah!" :lol:



(Hehehe, gooleys!). :lol:

Lord Commander Lucius - December 1, 2010 10:16 AM (GMT)
Malcador on crack makes his talk of auras take on a whole new meaning :D

Yer, when i first heard Malcador speak in that, i did a massive double-take at his voice. Not at all how i imagined him to speak.

And what did you think of the accents of Ultramar? I'm not sure myself but interesting twist to them anyway.

Whitehorn - December 1, 2010 11:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ShroudFilm @ Sep 10 2008, 01:05 PM)
That's a piece of cake and an hour with Keira Knightley to you, sir! :D

This never happened.

Which is probably for the best. Skinny whelp.




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