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Title: Witch Hunters
Description: They were around, but in what form?


Gagoc TheAncient - December 15, 2008 09:08 PM (GMT)
In the Index Astartes article for the Thousand Sons there is a section dealing with the Judgement of Nikaea.
In this witch hunters presented the case against Psykers.
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The mightiest proponents of both sides convened on the planet Nikaea to debate, with the Emperor himself enthroned above the dais as arbiter, in an ancient amphitheatre that seated tens of thousands. There, beneath the glittering starlight, the witch hunters presented their case. They recited a litany of human misery inflicted upon the Emperorís own subjects by sorcerers enslaved by Chaotic monstrosities; of mutants unable to control what they had become, and despots who turned their psychic gifts to dark and selfish purpose.

Yes Witch Hunters.

But chances are they were nowhere near their Inquisitorial counterparts of M40 in organisation and power.

So what were they?

I've started this thread so that those interested can discuss this part of the background and what it could mean for games of 30K.

Battle Brother Loken - December 15, 2008 09:12 PM (GMT)
well maybe the black ships carried them
and maybe they were just a few people
but it dosent make much sence to me because of the presicution of pyskers didnt happen yet i thought?

Brother Handro - December 15, 2008 09:19 PM (GMT)
Could it be that the phrase 'witch hunters' is referring merely to individuals invovled in a witch hunt, i.e. people looking for a scapegoat, someone to blame when they haven't done much wrong.

Or maybe its one of those cases of thoughtless writing; 'hmm I'm writing about the prosecution of individuals with magic powers'...logical connection....'who traditionally exposed people who used magic? Yes, witch hunters/finders'. Therefore it might not neccessarily have the assumed meaning of witch hunters in 40K, and so they could be completely different, (whilst performing a similar role?).

Anodyr - December 15, 2008 09:47 PM (GMT)
I'd say the Sisters of Silence would fall under the proto-Witch Hunter banner - they were employed specifically because of their anti-psyker abilitys. We see them used against a xenos race, but I'd have thought they could have been used against human populaces where the psyker mutation had taken hold too.

Gagoc TheAncient - December 15, 2008 11:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Battle Brother Loken @ Dec 15 2008, 10:12 PM)
well maybe the black ships carried them
and maybe they were just a few people
but it dosent make much sence to me because of the presicution of pyskers didnt happen yet i thought?

Actually according to Flight of the Eisenstein, the Black Ships were the vessels of the Silent Sisterhood.

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Garro had never laid eyes on a Black Ship before. these were the mothercraft of the Silent Sisterhood, carrying them back and forth across the galactic disc on the Emperor's witch hunting missions. It was hard to make out anything more than the most basic of details of the ship's design. Framed against the solar glow of Iota Horologii, the battle cruiser was at least a match in size for the Death Guard capital ship Indomitable Will. It lacked the traditional plough blade prow of most Imperial vessels, ending instead in a blunt bow. A single, knife-edge sail hung below the stern and on it was an aquila cut from shimmering volcanic glass. Where Endurance and the ships of the Astartes flotilla were swords against the enemies of Terra, Aeria Gloris was a hammer of witches.


They themselves could've been the Witch Hunters in question, except their vow of silence would've made it difficult for them to present the case.

It maybe that they had allies who worked as sentinels against witches but would stand aside for the SoS to do the 'Heavy-Lifting'.

Weiss - December 16, 2008 10:24 AM (GMT)
The SOS would have had no problem whatsoever in presenting the case - they used novices that had not taken their vows yet to communicate with outside organisations.

I think "witch hunters" in this case is just a blanket term for the most strident proponents of the anti-psyker case.

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Yes Witch Hunters


No. witch hunters.

The Red Sorcerer - December 16, 2008 12:55 PM (GMT)
I imagine the 'witch hunters' would have been members of the Astro-Telepathica - they were responsible for the Black Ships and the collection and disposal of those with psychic powers:
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The newly conquered worlds of humanity were told to expect the arrival of black ships to carry away their psykers. This was the most important commintment the Imperial Commanders had to the Imperial Tithe.

The Black Ships were operated by the Astro-Telepathica, the Imperial Organisation that tested psykers. The vast majority of psykers that were transported back to Terra were destined to undergo the soul-binding ritual. The lucky few that survived this would be enlisted in the corps of Atropaths.

Among the crews of the black ships were the mysterious warrior investigators known as the Sisters of Silence...

Of course the Sisters of Silence would also be part of the 'witch hunter' section of the Imperium, and as Weiss points out they used novices who had not taken their full vows as intermediaries when they needed to communicate with outsiders. At this point the Sisters seem to have been the military arm of the Astro-Telepathica, their powers making them siuted to combatting the threat of psykers as and when necessary.

Inquisitor Malaclypse - December 16, 2008 02:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Weiss @ Dec 16 2008, 10:24 AM)
The SOS would have had no problem whatsoever in presenting the case - they used novices that had not taken their vows yet to communicate with outside organisations.

I think "witch hunters" in this case is just a blanket term for the most strident proponents of the anti-psyker case.

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Yes Witch Hunters


No. witch hunters.

Good point there Weiss.

And notice that in the quote provided by Gagoc witch hunters is not capitalized. so it could mean a group of people who hunt witches as opposed to a formal institution dedicated to witch hunting.

this group could have consisted of the SoS, and perhaps other members, such as the Ministorum.

and i don't know where they would come in, but wouldn't Aribites also partiicipate? assuming they existed in the 31st millenium of course. i always thought they did, since they are police officers, and humanity has always needed cops, it seems.

meh. not sure though...




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