looking for info

I was wandering if anybody could give me any info on any of these dogs.

---------------------Watt's Buster
------------------Taylor's Tuffy
---------------------Taylor's Ann
-------------Lance's Danny Boy
---------------------Taylor's Jake
-----------------S Gr Sq Ch Lances Sugar
---------------------Taylor's Sissy
---------------------Langford's Rowdy
----------------Gr Sq Ch Allar's Fred
--------------------Bowen's Daisy
-------------Sq Ch Ch McMillen's Mandi
--------------------Cauley's Tom
----------------Willis' Redstick Tonie
---------------------Gr Sq Ch Wd Sq Ch Willis'. Redstick Cauley's Susie



---------------Chavis's Spunky
-------------Eppards Pete
--------------------Quick's Tarheel Shorty
----------------Quick's Tarheel Sassy
--------------------Tarheel Dolly
--------------------Robbin's Happy 3
----------------Robbin's Bubba
--------------------Hunt's Queen
-------------Eppards Pepper
----------------Georgie

Any and all information on any of these would be appeciated.

Is this informaition for a possible new pup or are these names that are farther back on your pedigree?

They Cauley dog's are bred right I can assure you of that. I've talked to Dan about the Cauley line and Mr. Cauley did a lot to keep his lines the way he wanted them. I'm sure there were some outcrosses in there but from what I've gahtered, they tend to be few and far between. Some of this comes from guy's on SDC as well. Would also like to point out that several people have told me that the Cauley dog's cross well with the Buckley line. Just saying.

Allar's Fred was a great dog. Not sure about the background of his Pedgree but as you can see from the titles he's got, he sure get's the job done.

It's really hard to track these dog's unless you can talk specifically to the breeder and then you have to hope they are honest about what they are saying. It's a crap shoot when you think about it.

Luther now you have me wondering about my Cur because he has Quick's dogs a couple of times and he has Tarheel dogs a couple of times my buddy said and it makes you wonder if the same people have both Feist and Cur or if they were to big or small that made them end up where they are at, the foundation dog of the sugar dog was a stray that was found check out the link ... Dimpsy ...

http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/sqdog//

Well there you go Dimpsy, a Cur with Feist blood.

Dan i was talking to him the other night and he said Quicks Sadie and one more Quicks dog and two Tarheels dogs on the Dame's side and a bunch of Streak dogs and a couple of Tigs dogs ont the Sire's side, you never know whats what ... Dimpsy ...

Dan i was talking to him the other night and he said Quicks Sadie and one more Quicks dog and two Tarheels dogs on the Dame's side and a bunch of Streak dogs and a couple of Tigs dogs ont the Sire's side, you never know whats what ... Dimpsy ...

Dimpsy, I hope that one day you will breed your pure old blood Feist and sell me one of their papered pups. I know you have lot's of family and friends wanting the same thing. But never the less I still want one of their pups.

Dan i was talking to him the other night and he said Quicks Sadie and one more Quicks dog and two Tarheels dogs on the Dame's side and a bunch of Streak dogs and a couple of Tigs dogs ont the Sire's side, you never know whats what ... Dimpsy ...

Dimpsy, I hope that one day you will breed your pure old blood Feist and sell me one of their papered pups. I know you have lot's of family and friends wanting the same thing. But never the less I still want one of their pups.

X 2 on the old timey feist.

So I am wandering how do ya know if the Quick's dogs, the streak dogs are cur feist or hybrids. These registries need to keep much better records

Dan i was talking to him the other night and he said Quicks Sadie and one more Quicks dog and two Tarheels dogs on the Dame's side and a bunch of Streak dogs and a couple of Tigs dogs ont the Sire's side, you never know whats what ... Dimpsy ...

Dimpsy, I hope that one day you will breed your pure old blood Feist and sell me one of their papered pups. I know you have lot's of family and friends wanting the same thing. But never the less I still want one of their pups.

X 2 on the old timey feist.

So I am wandering how do ya know if the Quick's dogs, the streak dogs are cur feist or hybrids. These registries need to keep much better records

The Streak dogs are on the other side with the Tigg dogs and should be on the up and up but on the other side is where the Quicks and Tarheel dogs are and i never give it much thought until this post but im not to big on Feist and Cur's being bred and papered by the same person on the same grounds because anything can happen and its hard to keep up with two breeds at once and most people dont keep them kenneld by their self and they will come in and you know the rest of the story, im not sure and not saying that my dogs not on the up and up but it does seem odd those names is on his papers but the other odd part is the NKC because if the Dame and Sire are NKC papered it could be a Fuzzy and a Cur and be papered as a Cur and so on and their set up is under 30 lbs its a Feist and over 30 lbs its a Cur and that just dont set well with me anyway i look at it, Luther if you was not the one raised it and then trained it and then bred it and was a 100 percent sure on the stock you started with its hard to say what you end up with because papers are just a road map to a Mythical story of the untold truth most of the time, thats my take of it anyway ... Dimpsy ...

Well Dimpsy I do agree with most of that but the part I can't figure out is if the NKC registers dogs over 30 lbs as curs and the ones under 30 lbs as feist, how do ya tell which pup is gonna grow up o be what size. All of my dogs are papered as pups and I don't have a clue as to how tall or how much they will weigh when fully grown

Luther they go by what the Sire and Dame was and the size and weight but they are dogs out thear that are NKC papered as Feist that weigh 40 + pounds and look nothing like one and they are dogs papered as Cur that weigh under 25 lbs and some look like Cur and some like a Feist, as far as i know with NKC when you get the puppy paper when you buy the pup most people sends off and gets the main paper at about a year old and by that time you will know how big etc it will get and most people that hunts in the hunts goes by that and papers them, i dont ever buy any pups so i dont know how that end works and i dont send out papered pups but the last time i used NKC was close to 6 years ago and i think thats how they was doing things ... Dimpsy ...

Luther they go by what the Sire and Dame was and the size and weight but they are dogs out thear that are NKC papered as Feist that weigh 40 + pounds and look nothing like one and they are dogs papered as Cur that weigh under 25 lbs and some look like Cur and some like a Feist, as far as i know with NKC when you get the puppy paper when you buy the pup most people sends off and gets the main paper at about a year old and by that time you will know how big etc it will get and most people that hunts in the hunts goes by that and papers them, i dont ever buy any pups so i dont know how that end works and i dont send out papered pups but the last time i used NKC was close to 6 years ago and i think thats how they was doing things ... Dimpsy ...

Dimpsy I haven't seen nothing on the papers about height or wait. My pups papers have all come to me saying Mtn feist I filled out my info said what name I wanted to call it mailed them in and they send back a pedigree for 6 generations with all these dogs names on them. I still aint understanding how they would go by size or weight. I just assumed that everybody sent their dogs papers off a week or 2 after they got their dogs. I don't understand how they are gonna know how big the dog is gonna turn out.

If you breed a 40 lb cur to a 20lb feist and mail in the sire and dame registry numbers they aint gonna know how big the pups will be, I figure they are gonna send you a paper for that liter that either says treeing feist, treeing cur, or hybrid. They know by the registry Numbers it is a feist cur cross and I don't see em registering a pup that only gets 25 lbs as a feist and his liter mate reaching 35 lbs as a cur. Seemms to me the entire liter would be registered the same regardless of height or weight

I have been registering my dogs with NKC for 8 years. Single dogs and whole litters. Never on any of the paper work is there a question for size or weight.
And I beleive NKC hires off the street Data Entry Personnel to process the request for registration's. It seems that it would cost the company 100's of $$ per request to reserch the Sire and Dam's records to prove what they are and what their offspring should be called. After all it only cost $18.00 to register a whole litter. Why would they spend much more then that to process the paperwork?

Looked up what I could Hunts Queen was a Thornburg feist. Guess it doesn't matter a whole bunch anyhow what it comes down to is if the last several genarations were treedogs. I don't know that streak sure throws a lot of smaller dogs. From what I hear most of the old timers had a litter and if they were smaller they were feist and if they were larger they were curs. Streak was a great dog that was introduced in curs and feists. I bred my cur and the streak came out in that litter cause half of them were under 30 pounds and the other half were over. I think it was the Nash Rambler that showed up the most.

How do you look the dogs up on a pedigree to find about them?

Luther they go by what the Sire and Dame was and the size and weight but they are dogs out thear that are NKC papered as Feist that weigh 40 + pounds and look nothing like one and they are dogs papered as Cur that weigh under 25 lbs and some look like Cur and some like a Feist, as far as i know with NKC when you get the puppy paper when you buy the pup most people sends off and gets the main paper at about a year old and by that time you will know how big etc it will get and most people that hunts in the hunts goes by that and papers them, i dont ever buy any pups so i dont know how that end works and i dont send out papered pups but the last time i used NKC was close to 6 years ago and i think thats how they was doing things ... Dimpsy ...

Dimpsy I haven't seen nothing on the papers about height or wait. My pups papers have all come to me saying Mtn feist I filled out my info said what name I wanted to call it mailed them in and they send back a pedigree for 6 generations with all these dogs names on them. I still aint understanding how they would go by size or weight. I just assumed that everybody sent their dogs papers off a week or 2 after they got their dogs. I don't understand how they are gonna know how big the dog is gonna turn out.

If you breed a 40 lb cur to a 20lb feist and mail in the sire and dame registry numbers they aint gonna know how big the pups will be, I figure they are gonna send you a paper for that liter that either says treeing feist, treeing cur, or hybrid. They know by the registry Numbers it is a feist cur cross and I don't see em registering a pup that only gets 25 lbs as a feist and his liter mate reaching 35 lbs as a cur. Seemms to me the entire liter would be registered the same regardless of height or weight

Luther it dont say anything on the dogs papers i was just stating their guide lines that they go by and how they are stated and the part about waiting until a year old is because if you hunt in any of the hunts the dog has got to be papered and most people dont want to walk up with a 10 lb Cur that looks like a Feist and NKC leaves it up to the breeder as far as papers on the dog because all they want is the money but if you breed a 40 lb Cur to a 20 lb Feist the pups will be papered on what who ever bred them sends in to NKC it could be 50 lb Treeing Feist or 15 lb Treeing Cur and they may look like a Poodle who knows, i will try and post you their guide lines they go by its like buying a used car from the Flea Market ... Dimpsy ...