Minimum Internet Speed and Burst Speed, CIR vis-a-vis EIR
tito
Posted: Dec 31 2008, 03:58 AM


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Let's read it from these to speed up your comprehension;

CIR (Committed Information Rate)

http://www.linktionary.com/c/cir.html

When you order a virtual circuit for a service such as frame relay or ATM, you can specify a guaranteed data rate that you want the carrier to provide. The data rate is negotiated with the carrier as the CIR (committed information rate).

When the data rate exceeds the CIR, the network starts dropping packets, so CIR should be a balance between the minimum and maximum bandwidth requirements. You can also negotiate a burst rate that lets you exceed the CIR rate to accommodate spikes in traffic. The ability to burst depends on whether bandwidth is available. CIR may also be negotiated as variable over time, so that during busy business hours more bandwidth is available.

Basically, CIR is the throughput rate that you negotiate with a service provider, and they will usually attempt to guarantee that rate. One way the carrier guarantees CIR is by dropping non-CIR traffic.

Carriers will often "overbook" the capacity of their networks, hoping that customers will not make excessive demands on the network at the same time. But if the carrier miscalculates, traffic will be dropped, even if it is guaranteed, although non-CIR traffic will be dropped first.


Read this one also;

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Committed Information Rate (in FRAME RELAY NETWORKS) or CIR is the average bandwidth for a virtual circuit guaranteed by an ISP to work under normal conditions. At any given time, the bandwidth should not fall below this committed figure. The bandwidth is usually expressed in kilobits per second (kbit/s).

Above the CIR, an allowance of burstable bandwidth is often given, known as the Excess Information Rate (EIR) or Peak Information Rate (PIR). The provider guarantees that the connection will always support the CIR rate, and sometimes the EIR rate provided that there is adequate bandwidth. The CIR plus excess burst rate (EIR) is either equal to or less than the speed of the access port into the network. Frame relay carriers define and package CIRs differently, and CIRs are adjusted with experience.

CIR is derived from the term Committed Data Rate or CDR, and is used in similar fashion, but refers also to voice and non-data packets and not only to data packets as in CDR.

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committed_Information_Rate


Actually, FRAME RELAY is a LAYER 2 service. In the IP traffic, IP packets are encapsulated by the FRAME RELAY frames. The encapsultion is removed upon reaching its destination or reprocess by another LAYER 2 device or system. ATM traffic also employs CIR. The main feature involved in making CIR possible is the DISCARD ELIGIBLE (DE) bit in the frame. Read below;
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The Discard Eligibility (DE) bit is used to indicate that a frame has lower importance than other frames. The DE bit is part of the Address field in the Frame Relay frame header.

DTE devices can set the value of the DE bit of a frame to 1 to indicate that the frame has lower importance than other frames. When the network becomes congested, DCE devices will discard frames with the DE bit set before discarding those that do not. This reduces the likelihood of critical data being dropped by Frame Relay DCE devices during periods of congestion.

Reference: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/internetwo....html#wp1020632


For DSL services, CIR is not being really being implemented. The CIR bla bla bla in your application form is just a marketting strategy.

What's usually applied is bandwidth limit or capping. This can be easily done.

To sum it up, if you paid for a particular CIR and you cant get it even on off-peak hours (late night until 8 AM), and your ISP technicians keep saying the line is okay, .... then find another ISP.

Usually, ISPs at its distribution area level are too oversubscribed.
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tito
Posted: Dec 31 2008, 04:32 AM


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Also, ..
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Committed Data Rate - (CDR) The data transfer rate that an ISP guarantees a virtual circuit will carry. The CDR is the data portion of Committed Information Rate (CIR).

Data portion is your Internet traffic. This traffic maybe bundled with voice traffic or others and this combined traffic is now determined by your CIR.
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