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Repeal: WA Environmental Council
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I just posted the draft for my Repeal of GAR #42 [WA Environmental Council] in the General Assembly forums this morning. Here is a 'copy' of GAR #42:
| QUOTE | RECOGNISING that the maintenance of a balance between the advances of modern life and the natural world is a vital but often neglected factor in the hope of the world’s continued prosperity.
REALISING that the World Assembly, as a governing body and aid to the international community as a whole, has the responsibility to help explore and protect the environment and its resources.
SECTION 1-The World Assembly Environmental Council
The World Assembly hereby creates the World Assembly Environmental Council (WAEC) as a neutral organisation for the benefit of the environment and our continued existence within it.
SECTION 2-The Aims and Activities of the WAEC
a) The WAEC shall conduct research to identify and resolve environmental problems including but not limited to: climate change, pollution, depletion of natural resources, and natural disasters, in association with experts in the respective field. Scientists shall be employed from around the world to produce detailed accounts and records for the WAEC to help them issue advice to the international community
b) The WAEC shall publish records of all its findings and activities and make them public. These shall include annual surveys of the condition of the environment and assessments of potential future dangers and damages.
c) Nations are urged to assist WAEC research within their own country. However, members must avoid putting pressure upon scientists so that WAEC work is without bias.
d) The WAEC has the authority to monitor the environment of international territory in addition to the environments of World Assembly members. All surveys and studies shall be carried out legally in accordance with international and national law.
e) Based upon the advice and suggestions of scientists and the facts made clear in WAEC scientific reports, the WAEC shall discuss and debate goals or limits to be aimed for by particular nations or by the World Assembly as a whole. The progress of nations to whom particular goals or limits have been suggested will be monitored and governments are strongly urged to cooperate with the activities of the Council.
SECTION 3- Funding of the WAEC
Funding for the WAEC shall come directly from the World Assembly; it shall receive no additional funding from other sources. |
Here is the 'current' draft of the Repeal. As always, I welcome your suggestions.
| QUOTE | APPLAUDING the aims of WA Environmental Council, and recognizing the benefits of environmental protection,
HOWEVER REALIZING there are several flaws with the resolution, including:
- It establishes the WAEC without clarifying specific goals or aims for the organization; - It tasks the WAEC with “conduct[ing] research to identify and resolve environmental problems,” yet it grants the WAEC no legal authority to resolve environmental issues; - It does not require member nations to assist WAEC research within their own country; - It does not require member states to cooperate with the WAEC, nor does it require member states to adhere to suggestions and scientific reports issued by the WAEC; - It stipulates that funding shall come only from the World Assembly, thereby allowing for the WAEC to potentially become ‘ineligible’ for funds should the General Fund be replaced by a different funding scheme;
BELIEVING that the shortcomings of this resolution far exceed the potential benefits,
DECLARING that a better resolution may be drafted to ensure legal protection of the environment;
The General Assembly hereby repeals “WA Environmental Council”. |
A link to the debate in the GA Forums can be found Here.Thanks in advance for your thoughts/suggestions.
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| Iron Felix |
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Full support for this. I probably would not support a replacement though.
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| Cool Egg Sandwich |
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Well, thankfully for you I have no intentions of actually drafting a replacement. I would rather the WAEC just be completely repealed and disbanded, because at present their effect is minimal, at best; all the WAEC does now is waste WA funds, and plead to national governments to listen to them.
I am sure that if WAEC is repealed, then someone will draft a replacement.
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| Mousebumples |
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| QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 9 2011, 10:33 PM) | | I am sure that if WAEC is repealed, then someone will draft a replacement. |
We may need to draft a replacement that is more of a blocker, in nature, than anything else.
Establish something of merit, and generally instruct nations to work towards some environmental protection, but leave the overall mission up to individual member nations.
I have 2 proposals in progress right now, but I'd be happy to work with someone on a blocker replacement, if there's any other interest.
Otherwise, I think your repeal would be better served by further elaborating on the proposal's shortcoming, rather than just relegating the points to a single line within a list.
| QUOTE | THE WORLD ASSEMBLY:
APPLAUDS the aims of WA Environmental Council and recognizes the benefits of environmental protection.
REALIZES, however, there are several flaws with the resolution, which make its efficacy limited, at best.
WORRIES about the goals and aims of the WAEC, as it was established without any specifics being detailed within the resolution text.
UNDERSTANDS that member are not required to assist the WAEC with its research, cooperate with the WAEC, nor follow suggestions of the WAEC related to published scientific reports, which further undermines the WAEC.
RECOGNIZES that the WAEC lacks the legal authority necessary to resolve environmental issues and thereby renders the WAEC powerless to act in the face of environmental problems.
ACKNOWLEDGES that the shortcomings of this resolution far exceed the potential benefits.
Therefore, the General Assembly hereby repeals GA#42, “WA Environmental Council”. |
I cut out the funding argument. Not that it's not relevant, but I think your other arguments are stronger. Certainly, feel free to change wording (or disregard this completely) as you prefer. I also changed the tenses on the verbs because I like them this way when I'm drafting a proposal. To each their own, of course.
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| QUOTE (Mousebumples @ Mar 9 2011, 04:56 PM) | We may need to draft a replacement that is more of a blocker, in nature, than anything else. Establish something of merit, and generally instruct nations to work towards some environmental protection, but leave the overall mission up to individual member nations. I have 2 proposals in progress right now, but I'd be happy to work with someone on a blocker replacement, if there's any other interest. |
I would definitely be interested in working on something, provided you aren't too busy with prior engagements.
| QUOTE | | QUOTE | THE WORLD ASSEMBLY:
APPLAUDS the aims of WA Environmental Council and recognizes the benefits of environmental protection.
REALIZES, however, there are several flaws with the resolution, which make its efficacy limited, at best.
WORRIES about the goals and aims of the WAEC, as it was established without any specifics being detailed within the resolution text.
UNDERSTANDS that member are not required to assist the WAEC with its research, cooperate with the WAEC, nor follow suggestions of the WAEC related to published scientific reports, which further undermines the WAEC.
RECOGNIZES that the WAEC lacks the legal authority necessary to resolve environmental issues and thereby renders the WAEC powerless to act in the face of environmental problems.
ACKNOWLEDGES that the shortcomings of this resolution far exceed the potential benefits.
Therefore, the General Assembly hereby repeals GA#42, “WA Environmental Council”. |
I cut out the funding argument. Not that it's not relevant, but I think your other arguments are stronger. Certainly, feel free to change wording (or disregard this completely) as you prefer. I also changed the tenses on the verbs because I like them this way when I'm drafting a proposal. To each their own, of course.
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I went with a different format for this draft, one that has been used in previous repeals; however, I am open to changing the clauses from bullet-style points. I can see how rhetorically it may produce a more compelling argument for a repeal. After reading your version again, I am going to re-draft the repeal, using some of your suggestions; we'll work from there I suppose.
In regard to the funding argument, it seems the consensus thus far has been to remove that clause entirely. Any more thoughts on that from others?
Thanks for the input, Mousey.
Saludos, Cool Egg
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| QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 9 2011, 11:11 PM) | | I went with a different format for this draft, one that has been used in previous repeals; however, I am open to changing the clauses from bullet-style points. I can see how rhetorically it may produce a more compelling argument for a repeal. After reading your version again, I am going to re-draft the repeal, using some of your suggestions; we'll work from there I suppose. |
Agreed. I've seen both ways of formatting, and - for me - the decision as to which is best depends on the topic and the arguments in question. If you have fairly straightforward arguments/complaints, the bullet list works. For a more complicated (relatively) argument, that could be met with, "So what?" arguments from the populace, I think that spelling out why stuff is bad is better.
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| QUOTE (Mousebumples @ Mar 9 2011, 05:23 PM) | | QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 9 2011, 11:11 PM) | | I went with a different format for this draft, one that has been used in previous repeals; however, I am open to changing the clauses from bullet-style points. I can see how rhetorically it may produce a more compelling argument for a repeal. After reading your version again, I am going to re-draft the repeal, using some of your suggestions; we'll work from there I suppose. |
Agreed. I've seen both ways of formatting, and - for me - the decision as to which is best depends on the topic and the arguments in question. If you have fairly straightforward arguments/complaints, the bullet list works. For a more complicated (relatively) argument, that could be met with, "So what?" arguments from the populace, I think that spelling out why stuff is bad is better.
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I think in this case you are definitely right, Mousey. I am working on another draft at the moment, it should be 'ready' in a little while.
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Updated draft. I think changing the verb tense made the actual reading of the repeal much smoother, thanks for that Mousey. I used mainly your sentence structures, slightly adapted in some cases; it's pretty much exactly as you proposed, though.
| QUOTE | The World Assembly,
APPLAUDS the intentions of WA Environmental Council, and recognizes the benefits of environmental protection,
REALIZES, however, there are several flaws with the resolution which make its efficacy limited, at best,
WORRIES about the goals and aims of the WAEC, as it was established without specifics being detailed within the resolution text,
UNDERSTANDS that member nations are not required to assist WAEC research, cooperate with the WAEC, nor comply with suggestions related to published scientific reports, which further undermines the WAEC,
RECOGNIZES that the WAEC has no legal authority to resolve environmental problems, and is therefore powerless to act in the face of environmental problems,
SUBMITS that the shortcomings of this resolution far exceed the potential benefits,
The General Assembly hereby repeals “WA Environmental Council”.
Co-authored by: [nation=short]Mousebumples[/nation]
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Furthermore, do you accept co-authorship Mousey? You essentially re-wrote/condensed the initial concepts. I appreciate it.
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| QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 9 2011, 11:49 PM) | Updated draft. I think changing the verb tense made the actual reading of the repeal much smoother, thanks for that Mousey. I used mainly your sentence structures, slightly adapted in some cases; it's pretty much exactly as you proposed, though.
Furthermore, do you accept co-authorship Mousey? You essentially re-wrote/condensed the initial concepts. I appreciate it. |
Looks good on first read - I'll take another look-see in a few days, presuming you're not planning to submit this baby super-soon. And, absolutely, I accept the co-authorship offer! Always happy to help forward Nat Sov-oriented repeals.
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| QUOTE (Mousebumples @ Mar 9 2011, 06:34 PM) | | QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 9 2011, 11:49 PM) | Updated draft. I think changing the verb tense made the actual reading of the repeal much smoother, thanks for that Mousey. I used mainly your sentence structures, slightly adapted in some cases; it's pretty much exactly as you proposed, though.
Furthermore, do you accept co-authorship Mousey? You essentially re-wrote/condensed the initial concepts. I appreciate it. |
Looks good on first read - I'll take another look-see in a few days, presuming you're not planning to submit this baby super-soon. And, absolutely, I accept the co-authorship offer! Always happy to help forward Nat Sov-oriented repeals. |
I have no immediate plan to submit, as I think we should work on a blocker replacement first. Of course, we have plenty of time for all that.
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| QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 10 2011, 01:29 AM) | | I have no immediate plan to submit, as I think we should work on a blocker replacement first. Of course, we have plenty of time for all that. |
Yeah, that's probably a good idea. We'd hate to be inundated with "Save the trees!" / "Save the seas!" / "Save the worlds!" proposals after the repeal passes ....
New thread for that, though, I'd think. Feel free to start one, whenever you'd like. (Even if it's just brainstorming, that's a good start. No need to have a whole draft to start.)
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Do you think we should work off the current WAEC resolution, taking care to implement a more 'domestic' approach to environmental councils?
If not, we can just start fresh.
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| QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 10 2011, 02:20 AM) | Do you think we should work off the current WAEC resolution, taking care to implement a more 'domestic' approach to environmental councils?
If not, we can just start fresh. |
I would think that starting with an existing resolution - not authored by either of us - is possibly a plagiarism issue. Of course, it depends on how much it's changed.
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| QUOTE (Mousebumples @ Mar 9 2011, 08:30 PM) | | QUOTE (Cool Egg Sandwich @ Mar 10 2011, 02:20 AM) | Do you think we should work off the current WAEC resolution, taking care to implement a more 'domestic' approach to environmental councils?
If not, we can just start fresh. |
I would think that starting with an existing resolution - not authored by either of us - is possibly a plagiarism issue. Of course, it depends on how much it's changed.
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I was pretty much just thinking in terms of working off the concepts. Not specific clauses or ideas, or anything like that.
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