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Original Sin Feedback
Member No.: 239
Joined: 12-March 11
OK, time for the first feedback from me in a while! My schedule recently has limited my SCW involvement to "skim results, read card, last minute RP" but hopefully I can make a more meaningful contribution in the near future. Anyway, onto the card:
The Omen promo/match was perfect for a debut match, it got his character and fighting style across really well and built him up as a credible competitor in SCW. I thought Omen's aggressive physicality came across really well and I'm looking forward to seeing him against some tougher opponents - no disrespect to the Berrs!
Swag-a-licious promo was... interesting, certainly a unique character! I love original, eye-catching characters like this but they can be problematic for handlers who sometimes they find they run out of steam after the novelty of their unique gimmick wears off. Still, excellent, creative work so far and it will be interesting to see what is done to keep this character fresh over the coming months.
Poker Night Special was a good match, I like the way the match gimmick was used to get the different characters styles over I got a good sense of Wolf's crowd pleasing, equal-opportunity carnage, Belmont's cold-blooded power offense and Reigns' adrenaline fuelled acrobatics. Good win for CXB, surely this we can't be about to see ANOTHER Belmont dominate all and sundry in SCW?
Great MDK/Michael Thunder promo, this whole angle has played out brilliantly and I love the whole dynamic between these characters.
Cyclone/GB was short but got the point across and the JT Cash spot at the end was well written.
Hardcore title match was possibly the match of the night for me, loved the transition from technical wrestling to ultra-violence and some of the high spots were absolutely insane, Specter in particularly came across brilliantly and won't suffer at all for dropping the title. Could this free him up to move on to bigger things? I wouldn't be surprised. Great to see Matlock picking up SCW gold too.
Stu Who vs Sean Panache was an excellent straight-up wrestling match, I particularly liked the commentary in this one. Good finish, too.
Tag Title match was great, escpecially liked the parts where Gryphon and Marko Flins went at it, I'd love to see those two in one-on-one action some time soon! Would have liked it if the surprise run-in at the end had been expanded on somewhat, maybe with a little cryptic description of the "unknown figures" beating people down in the ring and some more commentary. As it was, this attack seemed like something of an afterthought to an otherwise outstanding match.
Dorling/Belmont was another great straight-up match, not much more to say on that one lol.
The Cage of Rage match was a spot-fest with individual sections kept brief, as they have to be in a match like this, some cool comebacks and near-finishes and an excellent, well deserved win for Michael Thunder. Absolutely loved the continuation of the Thunder/MDK angle after this one
Main event was probably tied for match of the night with the hardcore title, loved the quick start with near-falls from the beginning and loved the pacing of the match - for a match with as many impactful, violent high spots as this to stay interesting is no men feat and the writer really pulled it off, excellent work.
MISC THOUGHTS/GENERAL COMMENTS:
Loved, LOVED the graphics for the individual matches, the presentation of SCW PPVs just keeps getting better and better. Huge props go to Doug, MDK and especially Chris Styles for continuing to raise the bar when it comes to the overall look of our events.
Massive congrats to Shelbi on her epic victory, I wasn't sure who to root for in this match between two of my favourite SCW stars but without a doubt, this has been coming for a while. Working with Shelbi (and Doug) at Supremacy has been the highlight of my SCW career and it's GREAT to see my one-time teammate finally get her richly deserved reward . Ex will be back with a vengeance and we already have Michael Thunder and Chris Strike queuing up to take their shots but DAMN will it be difficult to get that belt of one of the most consistently exciting, relevant, high-quality roleplayers I have ever had the pleasure of working with.
Member No.: 5
Joined: 9-December 07
Yay Original Sin time already!
From memory this is the tightest, hardest fought OS of the bunch. To the uninitiated, while Cancun Clash is SCW's Mania, Original Sin was the first PPV of SCW, so has a special place in our hearts, a fact clearly evident from the hard work that went into the results. Awesome job guys.
So, good debut from Omen, solid start to his career; liked the bit about the 5 second delay, though I am one for pithy comebacks and would have loved to have edited in Skip replying "Meh, say what the fuck you like, we don't give a shit here." to ram home the strictly Rated M to R nature of our programming (its the gambling themes, cripples us with the ratings boards...). Swagalicious likewise, though I guess we will see how this character grows (by which I mean it is more MC Hammer meets R- Truth for me, rather than the Funkasaurus Clay meets Santino idea you originally pitched - not saying this is a bad thing, just saying I am interested in seeing what you come up with next and which direction you are going). Still can't get my head around rap lyrics enough to work out if that was funny or a straight calling out (excuse my white middle-classness, i liked the "come at me Leonidas..." line though, that was good) but you aim big, I'll give you that
Yay! Poker Night Special!
Now, am I the only one who thought the stuffed bear should have been used better? Typical religious nut-jobs... No imagination! Stu Who would have seen that bear and thought 'opportunity!' and try to do something creative with it! (whereas Bella would have seen that bear and done something obscene...) but oh no, not Christian 'pent up childhood rage' Belmont. Jo Berr should have paid someone off with that briefcase of money too... Probably an official to count fast or something... But at least he then whacked someone over the head with it. Great fun match, lots of wacky spots and some quite eye-watering shots too. Still, Grats to bland religious powerhouse Bear hater on a good win!
Great arc with ORC and Thunder. Be good to see where this goes next, but this has been paced brilliantly, with that knowing, soap opera certainty of the audience guessing what is going to happen next and then still managing to eke the drama out of it. Better than TNA writing that
Loved the twist with the GB bag use, but strangely, I thought the commentators sold him a bit short, given his recent performances in the ring. Still, always rooted for Cyc in this match and it was a deserved win, even if he did make it obvious he is only wearing the TV belt for Grand slam purposes and Cyc considers himself far beyond that division. Great entertainment though.
And then the bloodbath. Loved the technical master class befitting the participants at the start, and then it just descended into pure carnage. I think the 'Riot Ref' gear should be made standard from now on. I'm gonna go ahead and guess this was another Insomnia master-piece and probably going to say this was my Match Of The Night. Epic, great swerve finish that for a moment had me convinced Matt was being setup for something other than the hardcore title, (such as retirement to an intensive care ward) but then pulled out the awesome counter at the last minute to become new hardcore champ. Great effort from all involved.
Sabra / Doug interlude well placed to allow the ring staff to clean up and the crowd to calm down a bit after the carnage. It is often forgotten about in e-feeding but little bits like this that break up the action make perfect sense in all shows... You deride WWE at big PPVs where they sometimes seem lame, forced or pointless to story lines when rappers stare down superstars or dancing girls hit the stage, but there are things that need to happen backstage that take time, and the crowd needs to cool down in prep for the next big wow moment, so these are not only great to read and to drive our story lines, but essential for the maintaining the illusion of a televised production.
And obviously, the crowd need time to grab their beers and sodas in time to throw them all over themselves cheering and jumping for one small-time jobber named Stu Who.
Loved the psychology of this match, with neither man looking especially squeaky clean in their tactics, and there was a real sense of both men slowly getting more and more tired ( as opposed to the sudden 'and now they look tired' vibe you sometimes get in match writing) progressively as the match went on, which was excellent. Loved the (re)selling of Stu's determination to keep on going as his main driving factor for getting up, kicking out, not tapping etc, and I also loved the fact that there was that one time when Stu had really reached his limit and wasn't going to make it back into the ring in time. Sean looked really dominant throughout, which was excellent, and he definitely came over as the Jericho heel in this one. Despite this being one of the few times Stu has been the one with the weight advantage, it was never really overplayed and as such meant that you could pretty much ignore the raw stats of the two competitors and just concentrate on the wrestling. Fantastic match, loved the finish being the Stretch and the way that was executed too. This was only not my MOTN by virtue of it being my match. Thank you.
Rage in the Cage. Great start antics from the CWC champs, especially loved the legit idea of having a proper live music performance for the hometown hero, went a notch further into cementing the whole 'Original Sin Love' idea for us old-time SC-dubbers, loved the idea that Insomnia was just too annoyed to contain himself and entered early and still managed to give out a beating without getting double-teamed to all hell from the off. Great, shock finish, I actually thought we were going to have one sick-as-hell bump joint finish situation where som and Dox both tumbled off the cage to the floor for a moment, but then Thunder took the initiative and used the distraction to his advantage. Great finish for a veteran to do and from the writing itself, out of nowhere.
Main event was epic. Congratulations to Shelbi on a hard fought win. Loved the idea of Shelbi using Ex's move to put him away as well as over actions carried over from rps. Now means we have a triple title threat situation where Shelbi has to cope not just with Ex, but Mr. Sureshot and Mr. Ragecage as well! Plenty of meat to chew on there
9 bubbles out of Aero.
(would have been 9.5, but I couldn't see any spangley gfx in my browser, just black space
Member No.: 4
Joined: 9-December 07
Ahh yes Original Sin feeback…must mean OS has gone live and is in the books.
The intro was great, built up the show and the feuds that have been going on for weeks now perfectly. It got me excited to read this thing…yes even more than I already was…and yes I tortured myself, no skimming, reading the whole thing straight through to the main event….didn’t skip to my match to just read it and find the results. This is what I have been doing for months now and I have to say it is really helping make the shows just epic for me…this one, Original Sin…just might have been the most epic of PPV’s since I came back over a year ago…kudos to all the writers…there were no dull spots for me…at least not that I will give away here.
Opening match was a perfect way to introduce the new guy Omen…looks to be a physically dominate competitor, and someone already said it, I can’t wait to see what he does against an actual opponent, no offense Berrs, haha.
Ok, now the dull spot for me. I was called out on the first PPV where I am defending my title, called out by a nobody…didn’t we already have a nobody…now we have a nobody who thinks he is MC Hammer. This for me would have went much better if he had done a little research on my character, like you know, finding out he spelled the champs name wrong multiple times. It’s ok really, I am used to it, because I get shiot from people telling me I spelled my name wrong…but that was the point all along. This was ok, but I just had trouble following along with it, or understanding why he called me out. Should of set your sights a little lower…but if you want to call Extream out, history tells us, he will be more than happy to oblige…but I don’t think Mr. Swag will like the results.
Poker night special. I loved this match, I always like the props and how they get used in these matches. Everyone had their own moment to showcase their character in their own special way and in the end, a Belmont won…a very big and awkward Belmont, but a Belmont. Good match that lived up to the hype of the poker night special matches of the past.
The MDK Thunder stuff throughout the show was awesome for me. I love MDK stuff, as most of us do…and the interaction between Thunder and MDK is just plain old interesting. Even if you knew nothing about these two, reading through their interactions on the show gave you everything you need to know.
Cyclone with a dominate victory over the stock boy…is it any surprise that Cyclone thinks the title is beneath him yet still defends it with everything he’s got? I like that aspect of it, like it is just a stepping stone for him to cement himself as one of the greatest ever…one of the few grandslam champions.
And Cash is back…I loved seeing this as well…good to see the Cash man back in SCW where he belongs.
Doherty getting jumped backstage gave this show a little bit of that live WTF just happened feel, good way to bring us into the match of the night, hardcore title.
As per usual, Som took the hardcore title match and showed everyone why that “piece of garbage looking title” is so coveted in SCW. The hardcore division has been growing since I came back, I won it, lost it, and ever since then it has reached heights that none of us could have seen it reaching a year ago. Props goes out to Mattlock for beating the psycho Specter, and to Som for writing what I truly believe was the match of the night. When you thought it was over, it just kept going, both men looked brutal and worthy of the belt…and the new champ at the end, probably shocked us all…great great match.
Doug’s weird, and every angle surrounding him…equally as weird…I like it.
I wrote the grudge match…so no comments, I am just glad I could write something that at least one of the competitors enjoyed so far…that’s what it’s all about. Sorry for the few typos…damn auto correct messed with me on this one.
Tag title match was good was well…a little shocked that the champs could retain the way that they did…but hey…that’s why we love SCW, anything can happen on any given night, and the underdog Champs proved they deserve the belts.
United title was another great match. These two have been going at it for almost two months now, and you could feel that while reading through this match. I liked the highs and lows of the match and in the end, Dorling keeps his 2012 streak alive…retaining his title, and solidifying himself at the top of the company once again.
Rage in the Cage…awesome. I mean what else can you say about a match with this much talent in it. You didn’t feel like the focus was on one person more than the others and I think that really helped carry this match, so many personalities to try and cover, and the writer did exactly that. Everyone got over in their own way, and the way Thunder, like a vet would, laid low towards the end and when the moment was right, shot up and over the cage while everyone else was occupied. Great match once again, perfectly played out.
Main event…what can I say other than, Congratulations Shelbi Lynn Carter. Over the past year she has been the one person who always seems to pop up in my sights. We have has some brutal matches on Wildcards and violent confrontations at PPV’s…and I for one wouldn’t have wanted to lose the title, even only after a month of holding it…to anyone but Shelbi. I am just glad the two of us had this feud over the past year…she made me better and I hope in my own way, I helped her get better. I was disappointed in the loss, obviously as any of us would be, but like I said, Shelbi deserved this one and I am happy for her…can’t wait to see what comes of all this next. Ex has a rematch clause, Thunder won the Rage in the Cage, and Strike has the sureshot…3 people with a legitimate claim to the #1 contender spot…should make for some interesting storylines in the next few weeks. I am just happy I had the opportunity to hold the belt for a few weeks :-D
All in all I think this was one of the best PPV’s I have ever been a part of. From the MDK/Thunder interactions, to the drama of the title matches, the rage in the cage, the poker night special, and the promos from some of the new guys, the return of cash, it all flowed so well and truly had an epic PPV feel. I think everyone should give a standing ovation to all the writers and contributors of this one…it was a total team effort and it really showed…showed once again Why SCW is #1 in all our hearts.
I give it 9 chair shots out of 10...if Ex had won the Global title match...it would have been 10 out of 10 :-P
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Member No.: 36
Joined: 3-February 08
Huge change following this PPV. Lots of new champs and directions being taken. 'Matches were tops and I really enjoyed reading the tag team match and Stu vs. Sean. I personally thought Sean was gonna win, but the psychology was very good and it#s nice to see Stu back and winning big matched. Grats to Jo to retaining through all the bullshit that's happened to her! I wanted to see a title change there, but fuck it! x2 other title changes is enough.
Intro seg with Omen was a lil' weird, as was the rappy part - but as Stu sais stuff like that is needed to break shit up. Massive clean up job following the hardcore match I'd imagine! 'Glad people dug that btw.
Great to see Cyc and Dorling retain and Jer vs. Dorling was really good to end that series of matches which has spanned to other feds - Jer was still portrayed as a guy who could be a real challenger for the Global Title in the near future so kudos there. Just sad that Grocery Boy didn't RP as that's exactly why I didn't pik the match. I figured there was always the chance it'd end up a squash.. Not a shot at Kenny, though - absolutely love him. I realise he's got a lot of shit going on right now.
(Hope we at least get to read some of his awesome and epic feedback!)
Cage match was good but felt like a bit of a cluster fuck despite being beautifully written and I personally didn't like the format. I've seen similar matches where two 5 on 5 teams have to enter in similar 2 minute periods one by one and then once they've entered it's whoever can get the most team mates out of the cage or in Cage of Death V back to the start without being eliminated - but I dunno.. I just think it'd have been better to do an elimination chamber if we were gonna do 6 singles wrestlers. 'Match was written wonderfully as I say. I just didn't feel the format worked as well as it potentially could have.
Loved Para's intro, he didn't disappoint there after building it up and the psychology with Thunder and M.D.K. contuning worked conveniently well.
Congrats to Shelbi on her win, winning in Bella's home town - I must say I thought she'd blown this match when she didn't use the fact that Manchester is where female Global Champs are born in her RP so well done for showing me thw two fingers and winning it anyway! Let's hope for her sake she doesn't suffer the same fate as Bella. (I.e. losing it to 'Som
) Abnd congrats to everyone else who won, wrote RP's or whatever. Everyone except Matt Matlock - I wanted him to lose!
Overall?? I'd give this show a 9/10. TV title match was a slight disappointing in the sense that here we had a plucky Grocery Boy who really could have shown Cyc the error of his ways and brought him down a notch and there were SO MANY typos in that crappy hardcore match..
You know what, though? Just 'cause J.T. Cash is back and it was written in so well (and works EVEN BETTER if you watch Cyclone's vid promo vs. GB) There's a guy it's good to see back. Had an epic fued in 2010. Would be nice to renvive it at some stage.
Good work all! Now I'ma get started on my Experts RP. A true expert tag team title shot against the boss awaits! And that don't even count the battle royal either. xD Busy week.
Former: -Former SCW Global Heavyweight Champion x2
Last Ever SCW Tag Team Champion w/ David Cyclone
Current True Expert Tag Team Champion w/ Scott Rage
First Ever G-2 Tag Team Champion w/ David Cyclone
First & Last Ever SCW World Television Champion x2
Last Ever EWW World Television Champion
Rival Factions Winner 2012 w/ Team SCW
Former SCW Hardcore Champion
Longest SCW Global Title Reign
Dual Champ Global & Tag Team
Dual Champ Global & Hardcore
Cage of Endurance Winner 2010
Jackpot Tourney Winner 2012
Tag Team Of The Year 2010
Vegas Cup Champion 2012
Promo Of The Year 2011
Match Of The Year 2010
Match Of The Year 2011
Feud Of The Year 2011
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Member No.: 331
Joined: 27-March 12
As there's no need in repeating what others have said with great eloquence so I will jump right in my overall thoughts of the show.
Things that I loved- Each and every match was given it's own importance, that's something you don't see in every fed out there. Each and every character was given importance in their matches and that's a big props to the match writers. I loved how the whole PPV turned out, how it was put together, how each segment filled space that make us feel like we were actually watching the TV. I have to say that this being my first PPV here has set the bar pretty high for the rest, and I know you can get over that bar.
Things that I didn't understand- For some reason I'm steel scratching my head about why did a new guy call out the former champion (still champion at the moment of the call out).
Things that I will be keeping a really close eye to- The guys who attacked both Black Dawn and the tag champs (Jo and I), I want to see how that develops. Also how Doug will react to the failure that this PPV represented to his Sinistry, as Marko and Brenda failed in their goal to become Tag Champs and he failed on his goal to achieve #1 Contendership. Another thing is what will happen with the returning JT Cash and Cyc. Final two things that I will be keeping close eye to, are related in some way... How will the story between MDK and Michael Thunder end and how will it affect Shelbi's reign if it does affect it... and also will Strike and EX have something to say in said reign?
Overall- This show was a great show, simply put one of the best shows I've been part of, I was surprised by the result of my match, really didn't expect it to be that way but will ensure that I make the most out of the trust you guys put in me by having Jo and I keep the titles.
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Member No.: 198
Joined: 13-May 10
It was a great show. I don't have a massive amount of feedback as there is nothing I felt could've been done better and I pretty much enjoyed eveything on an even keel.
I did feel that the debut promos would've been better suited with waiting until Wildcard, but I guess you can't really do much about the timing and new guys that are raring to be a part of it all shouldn't be turned away. I don't really have a problem with Swag's calling out of the then Global champion - it doesn't mean he is pushing for a feud with him, which of course wouldn't happen, but just making a statement of his intent and who better to target than the face of the company? Made sense to me anyway.
Every match was written well, there were little cases of some characters not coming across as you might've expected from their RP's/feuds leading up to the PPV, but they were only minor things and really didn't effect the quality of the show. The hardcore match has become somewhat of a highlight for PPV events, a lot of that is down to Som's match writing ability, but also the characters that involved and how well the hype up the match and it's connotations. I always look forward to the Hardcore and Global title matches, they've been fantastic the last few months.
Not that the others weren't great. I really enjoyed the madness that was the cage match and the United Title match.
Actually, I have one complaint. And I guess it's really a complaint about E-feds/wrestling in general why so many run-ins? Seems to be the default way to re-introduce a character and it just comes across as uninventive. If it had stayed at JT Cash, I would've been happy as I think that worked well, but the tag team one on top of that and the fact we had Stu Who run in and return at the last PPV. If they were mixed up a bit more in the style of run in, does it always have to be post-match? A returning star coming back during a promo, mid match, elsewhere in the show... I've not really put a lot of thought into it, but I think it is something that is definately stale within the game and I rarely enjoy it, regardless of how much I like the character(s) involved.
Quality PPV as ever. Really do love this place.
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