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Bahamut2000X - June 1, 2011 02:18 PM (GMT)
So I stumbled across this site and the AE comic just the other day have found it to be a very enjoyable comic, so much so I read it all in a single day. Anyways hello there and such.

Vuanaunt - June 1, 2011 09:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 1 2011, 09:18 AM)
So I stumbled across this site and the AE comic just the other day have found it to be a very enjoyable comic, so much so I read it all in a single day. Anyways hello there and such.

Hey, It's nice to meet you, and always nice to have a new member.


I'm Vuanaunt (My alias came from a random name generator and I use it just about everywhere). I just finished my first year of College (Nuclear engineering), I'm an amateur artist, and a martial artist. Also, I'm into a lot of nerd/geek things.



I'm going to stop myself here before I start rambling on and embarrassing myself, but it's cool to have a new member, and I'm glad you like AE.

Milo - June 1, 2011 10:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 1 2011, 10:39 PM)
I'm Vuanaunt (My alias came from a random name generator and I use it just about everywhere). I just finished my first year of College (Nuclear engineering), I'm an amateur artist, and a martial artist. Also, I'm into a lot of nerd/geek things.
Most martial arts consider it cheating if you bring a nuclear weapon into the ring, though.

Vuanaunt - June 2, 2011 12:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Milo @ Jun 1 2011, 05:41 PM)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 1 2011, 10:39 PM)
I'm Vuanaunt (My alias came from a random name generator and I use it just about everywhere). I just finished my first year of College (Nuclear engineering), I'm an amateur artist, and a martial artist. Also, I'm into a lot of nerd/geek things.
Most martial arts consider it cheating if you bring a nuclear weapon into the ring, though.

Yeah, but all you need to do is punch hard enough.

=P

Bahamut2000X - June 2, 2011 01:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Milo @ Jun 1 2011, 06:41 PM)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 1 2011, 10:39 PM)
I'm Vuanaunt (My alias came from a random name generator and I use it just about everywhere). I just finished my first year of College (Nuclear engineering), I'm an amateur artist, and a martial artist. Also, I'm into a lot of nerd/geek things.
Most martial arts consider it cheating if you bring a nuclear weapon into the ring, though.

Nuclear Engineering huh? Sounds exciting. =D

I myself am a science nerd as well, I'm studying Microbiology and start my first Bio class next quarter, in the mean while I'm reading ahead and memorizing as many chapters before I even start my class. XD

I too am also a martial artist with 2 black belts (granted where I train we get dual rank =P) 1 in American Jujitsu and the other in Bansenshukai Ninjutsu.

And if your a ninja using a nuclear weapon is totally fine, just don't be near the blast site. >.>

Vuanaunt - June 2, 2011 01:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 1 2011, 08:16 PM)
I too am also a martial artist with 2 black belts (granted where I train we get dual rank =P) 1 in American Jujitsu and the other in Bansenshukai Ninjutsu.

Ah man, those both sounds rather awesome. I have two years in Tae kwon do, and one year in Karate.

Ninjutsu, Huh? What's that like? All I really know about it is from TV... =P

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Nuclear Engineering huh? Sounds exciting. =D


I imagine it will be! We even have our own reactor! Unfortunately I haven't taken any nuclear classes yet, because the first year is all general engineering. Right now I'm more of a CS engineer because I've taken a class on C. =p

Milo - June 2, 2011 01:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 2 2011, 02:16 AM)
And if you're a ninja using a nuclear weapon is totally fine, just don't be near the blast site. >.>
Hey now! Don't you know anything about stealth? Chemical explosives only!

Bahamut2000X - June 2, 2011 02:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 1 2011, 09:28 PM)
Ah man, those both sounds rather awesome. I have two years in Tae kwon do, and one year in Karate.

Ninjutsu, Huh? What's that like? All I really know about it is from TV... =P

Ninjutsu is rather fun, though it's hard to really discuss it because most people don't know what a ninja is or so many places claim to teach it but miss the point. Essentially where I train at we justify why we are ninjas by adopting the philosophy the actual ninja did, which was simply to win. And to do that through any means it took. Basically a real ninja has a skill set consisting of survival, stealth, first aid, acting/disguise, and escape and evasion techniques (since avoiding a fight is better than fighting). Then we learn fighting stuff on top of all that from various other martial arts, and in essence we do techniques that have the most practicality in terms of self defense.

And I'll leave it at that because I might write a thesis if I keep going presently. >.>

I also did Tae Kwon Do myself on and off for a few years, but I never got too into it. Every place I trained at was really big on winning trophies and competitions and had no real focus on any self defense practicality.

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I imagine it will be! We even have our own reactor! Unfortunately I haven't taken any nuclear classes yet, because the first year is all general engineering. Right now I'm more of a CS engineer because I've taken a class on C. =p


Like nuclear reactor? That sounds pretty awesome. I can't wait to get into my main bios and get access to my crafts equipment.

And I know the whole basic stuff well, I'm only starting my basic bio next quarter, and delving deeper into my chems and calculus.

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Hey now! Don't you know anything about stealth? Chemical explosives only!


Nuclear blasts are pretty good for a distraction though which are key to stealthing about. =P

Vuanaunt - June 2, 2011 02:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 1 2011, 09:03 PM)
Ninjutsu is rather fun, though it's hard to really discuss it because most people don't know what a ninja is or so many places claim to teach it but miss the point. Essentially where I train at we justify why we are ninjas by adopting the philosophy the actual ninja did, which was simply to win. And to do that through any means it took. Basically a real ninja has a skill set consisting of survival, stealth, first aid, acting/disguise, and escape and evasion techniques (since avoiding a fight is better than fighting). Then we learn fighting stuff on top of all that from various other martial arts, and in essence we do techniques that have the most practicality in terms of self defense.

And I'll leave it at that because I might write a thesis if I keep going presently. >.>

Haha, okay I might of lied. I knew that Ninjas did all of that, I was just under the misconception that "ninjustsu" was the name of their fighting style. XP (Instead of everything.)



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I imagine it will be! We even have our own reactor!
Like nuclear reactor? That sounds pretty awesome. I can't wait to get into my main bios and get access to my crafts equipment.

And I know the whole basic stuff well, I'm only starting my basic bio next quarter, and delving deeper into my chems and calculus.



Yeah, we have our own Nuclear reactor! It's not a big reactor, since it's mainly for experiments and demonstrations, but it's still too cool to have our very own nuclear reactor!


I'm sure you know the feeling, Your school must have it's very own microorganisms. =P

Milo - June 2, 2011 02:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 2 2011, 03:03 AM)
most people don't know what a ninja is
Wait, what? It's times like these that I'm reminded of what narrow social circles I'm moving around in :(

Vuanaunt - June 2, 2011 02:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Milo @ Jun 1 2011, 09:33 PM)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 2 2011, 03:03 AM)
most people don't know what a ninja is
Wait, what? It's times like these that I'm reminded of what narrow social circles I'm moving around in :(

I think what he meant was that most people don't know what a ninja -really- is.

Which is to say, ninjas were assassins, actually stealthy, and if they did fight, fought dirty. They are not flashy, the best warriors, magic, and they most certainly weren't anything in Naruto.

(Although from what I've read, back in the day, Ninjas wanted to look like they were that powerful and magic, but that was all for intimidation.)

((Correct me if I'm wrong on any of that.))

Epsilon - June 2, 2011 05:06 AM (GMT)
You are wrong, Vuanaunt... completely.

Ninjas could summon giant frog warriors and shadow clones and breath fire and lightning created from their chakra. Orange was the number one color of ninjas and they fought with honor and kindness above all else. Naruto is basically a historical document on ninjas. It was origionally made for the History channel but it didn't have enough aliens or doomsday predictions for them.

The reason most people don't know this is because ninjas are ninjas.

Bahamut2000X - June 2, 2011 05:11 AM (GMT)
Well as far as fighting styles, ninjas just use whatever style and weapon/tool they can get a hold of or learn. They usually just take the system their enemies used and sometimes modified it, but they used a lot of the same stuff. It's the stealth and other skills that make a ninja a ninja, since ninja's main job was information gathering and spying technically. The assassin stuff was a bit later and not nearly as big a focus as people generally think (at least from what I know about that aspect, I'm far from an expert on classical ninja), from what I know it was mostly the female ninja who would be assassins, namely because they could get into places men couldn't and get high up generals and such to not exactly keep their guard up around them.

The whole intimidation thing is correct as well, ninjas played off people's superstitions and played the information game and tried to, in the worlds of the first Nolan Batman movie "Be more than a man in the eyes of your enemies". That's actually the purpose of shuriken, they were used during night time when a ninja was being pursued, and were thrown to only cut the pursuer and make them believe they were attacked with magic or by demons.

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I think what he meant was that most people don't know what a ninja -really- is.


Yes, what he said. =P Most people tend to refer to the pop culture ninja instead of the real one. Which I guess isn't too uncommon really, our media tends to exaggerate or make up a lot of stuff which gets pushed into the back of our heads. >.>

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Yeah, we have our own Nuclear reactor! It's not a big reactor, since it's mainly for experiments and demonstrations, but it's still too cool to have our very own nuclear reactor!


I'm sure you know the feeling, Your school must have it's very own microorganisms. =P


That's pretty awesome, I would be nervous if they let the youngin' students handle it though, I'm just about to finish my first science majors chem class and most the people in there I don't trust with the Bunsen burner, let alone the deadly chemicals. >.>

And we do have plenty of microorganisms.....all over the place....especially in the bathrooms. >.>

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It was origionally made for the History channel but it didn't have enough aliens or doomsday predictions for them.


Can't forget nazis. They love them some nazis on the History Channel.

Vuanaunt - June 2, 2011 08:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Jun 2 2011, 12:11 AM)
It's the stealth and other skills that make a ninja a ninja, since ninja's main job was information gathering and spying technically. The assassin stuff was a bit later and not nearly as big a focus as people generally think

I learned that once, and now I feel foolish for over-emphasizing how much they assassinate. XP Much like I'm sure at some point one or two ninjas used a smoke bomb to escape, but they didn't use them everytime they entered or left a room.


Also, if I'm not mistaken, their favorite disguise was just putting on their street clothes and blending into a crowd. Youknow, instead of going everywhere in a orange black gi.

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((Correct me if I'm wrong on any of that.))
You are wrong, Vuanaunt... completely.

Ninjas could summon giant frog warriors and shadow clones and breath fire and lightning created from their chakra. Orange was the number one color of ninjas and they fought with honor and kindness above all else. Naruto is basically a historical document on ninjas. It was origionally made for the History channel but it didn't have enough aliens or doomsday predictions for them.

The reason most people don't know this is because ninjas are ninjas.


:unsure:

...oops. I feel silly now. Thanks for correcting me. :(

(But you failed to mention how ninjas are such bad smokers. Everytime they do anything it (dis)appears in a cloud of smoke.)

Bahamut2000X - June 2, 2011 02:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 2 2011, 04:06 AM)
Also, if I'm not mistaken, their favorite disguise was just putting on their street clothes and blending into a crowd. Youknow, instead of going everywhere in a orange black gi.

That would be correct, wearing a ninja outfit kind of stands out. =P Normally just looking like an everyday person (hence the acting skills). Of course the night time running about did exists but they wore dark blue because it blended in better than black.

Milo - June 2, 2011 04:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 2 2011, 03:42 AM)
and they most certainly weren't anything in Naruto.
Does anyone actually take the Naruto portrayal of ninjas seriously? It's been a long time since I've seen anyone bring Naruto up as anything other than an object of ridicule.

QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 2 2011, 09:06 AM)
Also, if I'm not mistaken, their favorite disguise was just putting on their street clothes and blending into a crowd.
I heard they liked disguising as farmers and farm produce merchants, because it gave them an excuse to carry farm tools (sickles, etc.) that could be improvised as weapons.

QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jun 2 2011, 09:06 AM)
Youknow, instead of going everywhere in a orange black gi.
The familiar "black ninja outfit" is actually a Japanese stagehand outfit. See, the convention in Japanese theater is that you occasionally needed stagehands to move around doing stuff (they didn't have the fancy special effects of modern computer-edited film), but the audience suspended disbelief and pretended not to notice them. Since the audience treated anyone wearing a stagehand outfit as being invisible, this meant that canny playwriters could surprise the audience by having someone that they were treating as invisible and ignoring suddenly attack another character on the stage.

The popular perception that a black outfit would be useful for camouflage at night is completely wrong. At night, your surroundings are dark due to little light falling on them, but you are also dark due to little light falling on you, regardless of what you're wearing. Wearing clothes dark enough to be black even in good lighting, while standing in front of a wall that wouldn't appear to be black in good lighting, makes you stand out too much. Much more sensible is to wear clothes matching whatever color your surroundings are, regardless of lighting conditions.

(Also, fun fact: some animals that have a dark coloration, like crows, actually put it to best use by hiding in shadows during high noon. No creatures of the night here.)

Bahamut2000X - June 2, 2011 04:49 PM (GMT)
^-- What Milo said basically sums it up well. I had forgotten about the stagehand thing, but ya that's basically where the black dressed ninja garb comes from.

As far as weapons, ninjas basically used tools that could be used as weapons. They used weapons as more than just weapons. For example swords had sheaths longer than the blade so poisons or powders that acted like pepper spray/mace to the eyes, could be stored in the tips and used as needed. So it wasn't uncommon for a ninja to disguise them self to justify why their carrying a sickle or walking with a cane.

Masterly - June 3, 2011 03:27 AM (GMT)
Save for Epsilon's mention of Orange (the color deserves to be capitalized in this case) I see no mention of honorable warriors with mystical powers who believed in the power of friendship.

Disappointing.

D:

Kristof - June 4, 2011 06:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Masterly @ Jun 2 2011, 11:27 PM)
Save for Epsilon's mention of Orange (the color deserves to be capitalized in this case) I see no mention of honorable warriors with mystical powers who believed in the power of friendship.

Disappointing.

D:

Total deal-breaker!

Anyway, welcome! As Vua said it's always nice to see new members around here. It's unfortunate you joined right when I started working again, which cuts down on updates, but let's try to make the most of it anyhow.

Oh, uh, I draw the comic >_> Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoy it.

Masterly - June 4, 2011 09:14 PM (GMT)
Dude! You got a comment from the K-man himself!

(He eventually comments on everything)

Bahamut2000X - June 5, 2011 08:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Masterly @ Jun 4 2011, 05:14 PM)
Dude! You got a comment from the K-man himself!

(He eventually comments on everything)

I had noticed that while sifting through the forums. Always good to see the head of a forum is active, every other forum I've been on, the head guy/girl always vanishes after some time. Twice now they left and I was one of the few admins (and once the only other one), hilarity ensued. =D

But thanks for the welcomes. This seems to be quite the spiffy and awesome place to post at.

Milo - June 6, 2011 12:04 AM (GMT)
Yeah, well, the entire point of Aetheria Epics is to have closer bonds between the author and readers than normal comics.

That's why I felt why this was one forum worth signing up for, even though I can't afford to sign up for every single forum of every single webcomic I read. Audience participation is such an integral part that I'd be losing out on a significant part of the Aetheria Epics experience if I wasn't here.

Masterly - June 6, 2011 12:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Milo @ Jun 5 2011, 04:04 PM)
Yeah, well, the entire point of Aetheria Epics is to have closer bonds between the author and readers than normal comics.

That's why I felt why this was one forum worth signing up for, even though I can't afford to sign up for every single forum of every single webcomic I read. Audience participation is such an integral part that I'd be losing out on a significant part of the Aetheria Epics experience if I wasn't here.

You're stuck with us for better or for worse. :3

proto - June 6, 2011 01:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Masterly @ Jun 2 2011, 10:27 PM)
Save for Epsilon's mention of Orange (the color deserves to be capitalized in this case) I see no mention of honorable warriors with mystical powers who believed in the power of friendship.

It's like you didn't read anything about the ninja here!

Okay, so they weren't "honorable" (to people they fought), but if you're fighting someone (and hopefully have a legitimate reason) who care about honor? You know what they say: pepper in their eyes a day keep the samurai away.

Ninja are awesome, that's awesome you have two black belts in ninjitsu Bahamut and welcome aboard.

Milo - June 6, 2011 07:22 PM (GMT)
If ninjas have any honor, it would be in terms of staying loyal to their friends/allies/employers, even when it puts them in danger. Once you've already decided you want to kill someone, there's not really much worse you can do to him anyway, so do what it takes to win! Basically all warriors know some feints, they just don't like to admit it.

Vuanaunt - June 6, 2011 09:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Milo @ Jun 6 2011, 02:22 PM)
If ninjas have any honor, it would be in terms of staying loyal to their friends/allies/employers, even when it puts them in danger. Once you've already decided you want to kill someone, there's not really much worse you can do to him anyway, so do what it takes to win! Basically all warriors know some feints, they just don't like to admit it.

Eh, I wouldn't say there is no dishonorable way to kill someone. There are sadly too many ways to kill someone painfully.


Also, in that time period and place they were a lot stricter with "honor" than we are now.

christine - August 10, 2011 06:42 PM (GMT)
woo! i'm late to the party, but now i know everything there is to know about ninjas.

welcome aboard!

Masterly - August 11, 2011 12:26 AM (GMT)
No. Ninja talk always hurts my head.

Bahamut2000X - August 16, 2011 02:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Masterly @ Aug 10 2011, 08:26 PM)
No. Ninja talk always hurts my head.

So what your saying is.....is continue the ninja discussion infinitly.

Vuanaunt - August 16, 2011 05:05 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bahamut2000X @ Aug 15 2011, 10:49 PM)
QUOTE (Masterly @ Aug 10 2011, 08:26 PM)
No. Ninja talk always hurts my head.

So what your saying is.....is continue the ninja discussion infinitly.

So what you're saying is... is continue the ninja discussion, but in the open?

;)

Milo - August 16, 2011 06:38 AM (GMT)
We should have a ninja argument.

Proving your point so stealthily that the other person doesn't even realize you're disagreeing with him!

Sildraug - August 16, 2011 11:06 AM (GMT)
The sad thing is, I've actually had those. Outside observers could spot it, but not the person I was directly speaking to.

Masterly - August 16, 2011 05:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sildraug @ Aug 16 2011, 04:06 AM)
The sad thing is, I've actually had those. Outside observers could spot it, but not the person I was directly speaking to.

Sad in that it actually happened? Or sad in that the person you were speaking to didn't fully understand?




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