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Kristof - June 26, 2009 07:22 PM (GMT)
I'm getting no bites on Wonderland, so I figured I'd start a thread here in case anyone's up for some discussion.

Just watched the third episode of the new season! It was good! Exactly the kind of plot I'd expect out of this series. A (SPOILERS) "stuck in a time loop" plot based around the fact that Haruhi doesn't want summer vacation to end. Brilliant. B) What surprised me was that there was no resolution. From what I've heard, they're doing a straight chronological run this time, so at least we only have to wait until next week to find out what happens.

The other big twist was the sheer number of times they'd repeated those 2 weeks. Poor Nagato T_T

christine - July 17, 2009 01:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Jun 26 2009, 07:22 PM)
I'm getting no bites on Wonderland, so I figured I'd start a thread here in case anyone's up for some discussion.

Just watched the third episode of the new season! It was good! Exactly the kind of plot I'd expect out of this series. A (SPOILERS) "stuck in a time loop" plot based around the fact that Haruhi doesn't want summer vacation to end. Brilliant. B) What surprised me was that there was no resolution. From what I've heard, they're doing a straight chronological run this time, so at least we only have to wait until next week to find out what happens.

The other big twist was the sheer number of times they'd repeated those 2 weeks. Poor Nagato T_T

are you any closer to finding the end of the loop?

Pinky - July 17, 2009 01:50 AM (GMT)
The next episode is bound to be the final of the endless eight. It better be, because if the arc manages to live up to its name I'm gonna start a Kyon hate-club. Even though I don't want to. :(

But ya, the idea is cool. B)

Kristof - July 17, 2009 02:56 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I can't wait to find out, but I won't know until I get back and watch it on monday, it seems. :(

Pinky - July 17, 2009 07:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Jul 17 2009, 02:56 AM)
Yeah, I can't wait to find out, but I won't know until I get back and watch it on monday, it seems. :(

Hey, I'd rather be where you are and watch Haruhi later, than sit across the ocean and be bored for the whole weekend after watching Haruhi. :P

Kristof - July 18, 2009 01:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 17 2009, 03:38 AM)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Jul 17 2009, 02:56 AM)
Yeah, I can't wait to find out, but I won't know until I get back and watch it on monday, it seems. :(

Hey, I'd rather be where you are and watch Haruhi later, than sit across the ocean and be bored for the whole weekend after watching Haruhi. :P

Aw, well, maybe you'll make it some time.

I keep seeing girls with red hair and blue and white costumes and it always takes me a second to figure out if it's Mikuru or Asuka from Eva. :P

Seeing plenty of Haruhis, though. I think I even saw the gender-swapped "Haruki". I thought it was Kyon, but he had the red armband.

Vuanaunt - July 19, 2009 04:33 AM (GMT)
WARNING! I just watched two hours of Reruns so this post is ranty! Beware, it is also grumpy. Feel free to ignore its presence and pretend it never happened.

Avast ye matey, thar be Spoilers ahead.I've left out the most spoiler-ific one though, there isn't anything that hasn't been in the anime yet.


After having only watched the first two episodes of this season (on youtube, but the videos were poor quality, so I waited until I could find a better site) I just decided to go on a Haruhi mini-marathon... :blink: <_<
Anyway, because I happen to know what ends the Time Loop, the all during the third or forth episode I was mentally yelling at Kyon "Stop being so lazy and do CLASSIFIED INFORMATION!"
You know that thing he (Kyon) always tries to figure about near the end of the episode as Haruhi leaves the restaurant? I know what it is, knowing bugs me, and it hurts each time she says it!
QUOTE (Kristof about Nagato)
The other big twist was the sheer number of times they'd repeated those 2 weeks. Poor Nagato T_T


It's hard, but I can't allow myself to feel sorry for some who has the ability to stop, or at least change The Time Loop, and hasn't in almost 600 years.


With some hindsight, what they did was very artistic, albeit less entertaining; each of the episodes was redrawn, so you can't write it up to laziness. I do prefer the written story much more, as they asked the question I did...
QUOTE (kyon)
"How many times have we discovered this?"
QUOTE (Nagato)
Eight-thousand seven-hundred sixty-nine times
Geeze!


Off this season in particular, but am I the only one here that thinks that Kyon is the reality warper?


I apologize for my angry, rant post; I'm too sore and the the last episode's plot was way too predictable. Understatement

Masterly - July 19, 2009 07:03 AM (GMT)
It didn't make me post tl;dr, so it's not really ranty at all.

It also didn't come off as angry to me, not sure if that's a good or bad thing. Also there was too much to highlight.

Otherwise it was a Masterful post.

So to sum up, my post was just full of complaints with a compliment at the end.

Pinky - July 19, 2009 12:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Jul 18 2009, 01:39 PM)
QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 17 2009, 03:38 AM)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Jul 17 2009, 02:56 AM)
Yeah, I can't wait to find out, but I won't know until I get back and watch it on monday, it seems. :(

Hey, I'd rather be where you are and watch Haruhi later, than sit across the ocean and be bored for the whole weekend after watching Haruhi. :P

Aw, well, maybe you'll make it some time.

Actually, I've already been to Otakon last year. <_< >_> But that just makes me want to attend again even more.

Too bad one such trip would cost me about 2000. >
Ofcourse there are anime conventions closer to my location that would quarter the trip costs, but those don't have The Wonderland Crew() :(


But yeah, Haruhi.

Yuki, actually.

Considering she's the alien time-space fairy entity thing that much more resembles a godlike robot/computer, I don't think much pity is appropriate for her. But then again, she is somewhat sentient and observing without acting is a job she has to do, albeit boring. So maybe pity is in place.


Also; is the thing you (Vuanaunt) know Haruhi wants the thing hinted at in episode 5 (endless eight 4) or is the その他 on the list something else?

Vuanaunt - July 19, 2009 04:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 19 2009, 08:13 AM)
Also; is the thing you (Vuanaunt) know Haruhi wants the thing hinted at in episode 5 (endless eight 4) or is the その他 on the list something else?

Actually it's hinted (or at least mentioned) at twice in each episode.

Spoilers, it might become obvious. It's at After the group plays with fireworks, and at the right before the credits.

If you just want to know, it should be near the end of that link I put up, or i could just PM, it.

CLASSIFIED INFORMATION is the second piece of evidence that Kyon is the reality warper.

I keep calling it CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, because I don't want to just say it, and Mikuru's fondness for the term.
QUOTE (Masterly)
...it's [your post] not really ranty at all.
It also didn't come off as angry to me...

I was sore, angry and ranty at the time, I figured my post would be too.

P.S. Gah, your Japanese doesn't come with subtitles, I have no clue what it says!

Pinky - July 19, 2009 05:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Jul 19 2009, 04:32 PM)
QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 19 2009, 08:13 AM)
Also; is the thing you (Vuanaunt) know Haruhi wants the thing hinted at in episode 5 (endless eight 4) or is the その他 on the list something else?

Actually it's hinted (or at least mentioned) at twice in each episode.

Spoilers, it might become obvious. It's at After the group plays with fireworks, and at the right before the credits.

P.S. Gah, your Japanese doesn't come with subtitles, I have no clue what it says!

Ooh, I think I get it.





その他 [sono hoka] "other"

Kristof - July 20, 2009 07:43 PM (GMT)
Watched the newest one: Ahem... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

It doesn't bother me that Kyon hasn't figured it out yet, but it bothers me that he never asked Yuki to let him in on it at the beginning of the next loop so he has more time to figure it out. Also that he actually doesn't try to do anything when Haruhi's walking away at the end of the loop. Like, seriously, go out on a limb and try anything.

Though, I do think I've figured it out and I guess that wouldn't help him all that much. But still!

I think the notion of Kyon being the reality warper is cool and a valid argument, but I personally like to believe it's not the case. Then again, it sounds like you know more about the series than I do, Allen?. I started reading the first light novel, but find it very difficult to read something as long as that on a computer monitor. Maybe I just need a printer, eh?

Kristof - July 20, 2009 07:48 PM (GMT)
I'm starting to think they're actually gonna make Endless Eight last eight episodes T_T

Ryuu - July 20, 2009 08:41 PM (GMT)
I read half or so of the novels(the others weren't translated) and I can say that Kyon being anything except normal doesn't make any sense.

He's there because he's John Smith, who Haruhi has had a crush on since she met him in the past.

Vuanaunt - July 21, 2009 01:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Jul 20 2009, 03:43 PM)
Then again, it sounds like you know more about the series than I do, Allen?. I started reading the first light novel, but find it very difficult to read something as long as that on a computer monitor. Maybe I just need a printer, eh?

Actually... I haven't read most of the stories, I'm only so far as the end of the endless eight...having skipped some. :unsure: (It is rather hard to read on a moniter for any length of time.)

QUOTE (Ryuu)
I read half or so of the novels(the others weren't translated) and I can say that Kyon being anything except normal doesn't make any sense.


My logic so far on that is
  • In the very beginning of the series, he thinks how he wants to meet time travelers, Esp'ers, and aliens.
  • He has all the wacky adventures that Haruhi misses out on.
  • Haruhi isn't aware of what finally ends the "Endless Eight".
It's by no means proof, but it's enough evidence for me.

P.S. hehe, my post count is at 123. :) . :(
If only there were 700 more members before me.

Clinton - August 3, 2009 05:35 PM (GMT)
So, is Endless Eight over yet?

I haven't watched any Haruhi lately, but I've been reading the manga... volumes 1-3, to be exact.

Vuanaunt - August 3, 2009 07:33 PM (GMT)
Not yet, Also I think the are mocking us. In the latest episode Kyon and ... Koizumi are waiting for the ... <Fancy japanese Dress> shopping to finish, by a store front labeled "ENDLESS" for about a minute...


...Aggh...

Post Script: oh hey, that image I was talking about is now appropriately the image for Arc Fatigue.

Kristof - August 3, 2009 07:43 PM (GMT)
Yeah, real clever, KyoAni. . . F you. <_<

Clinton - August 3, 2009 08:24 PM (GMT)
Okay, I clicked that Trope Link, next thing I know I'm reading the Haruhi Tropes page, and it's so frickin' long that I had to make myself close the window halfway down. Now, I want to read the rest... DAMN YOU TVTROPES, YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME YOUR SLAVE!!! :angry:

Vuanaunt - August 3, 2009 08:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clinton @ Aug 3 2009, 04:24 PM)
YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME YOUR SLAVE!!! :angry:

We already have...


Join us...


Join us...

Resistance is futile.

Kristof - August 3, 2009 08:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clinton @ Aug 3 2009, 04:24 PM)
Okay, I clicked that Trope Link, next thing I know I'm reading the Haruhi Tropes page, and it's so frickin' long that I had to make myself close the window halfway down. Now, I want to read the rest... DAMN YOU TVTROPES, YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME YOUR SLAVE!!! :angry:

Clinton - August 3, 2009 09:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Aug 3 2009, 08:33 PM)
QUOTE (Clinton @ Aug 3 2009, 04:24 PM)
Okay, I clicked that Trope Link, next thing I know I'm reading the Haruhi Tropes page, and it's so frickin' long that I had to make myself close the window halfway down. Now, I want to read the rest... DAMN YOU TVTROPES, YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME YOUR SLAVE!!! :angry:

No.... I WILL NOT BE CONSUMED!!!!! *clicks the close button*

:P

Edit: For the record, I did click the link... but I did the right thing and didn't follow any other links on that page. XD

Kristof - August 3, 2009 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Aug 3 2009, 04:33 PM)
QUOTE (Clinton @ Aug 3 2009, 04:24 PM)
Okay, I clicked that Trope Link, next thing I know I'm reading the Haruhi Tropes page, and it's so frickin' long that I had to make myself close the window halfway down. Now, I want to read the rest... DAMN YOU TVTROPES, YOU WILL NOT MAKE ME YOUR SLAVE!!! :angry:

Oh wow, I totally must have made this post at the same time as Allen.

*checks*

Yeah, well, within 2 minutes, anyway. I wasn't fast enough on the draw!

Vuanaunt - August 3, 2009 10:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Aug 3 2009, 05:56 PM)
Oh wow, I totally must have made this post at the same time as Allen?.

*checks*

Yeah, well, within 2 minutes, anyway. I wasn't fast enough on the draw!

TV TROPERS THINK AS ONE AND ACT AS ONE!

...I'll stop that now...

(I edited in the link after you did though, nothing says mind slave like different people saying the same thing. ;))

Kristof - August 3, 2009 11:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 3 2009, 06:10 PM)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Aug 3 2009, 05:56 PM)
Oh wow, I totally must have made this post at the same time as Allen?.

*checks*

Yeah, well, within 2 minutes, anyway. I wasn't fast enough on the draw!

TROPERS THINK AS ONE AND ACT AS ONE!

...I'll stop that now...

(I edited in the link after you did though, nothing says mind slave like different people saying the same thing. ;))

XD Good call.

Kristof - August 7, 2009 04:02 PM (GMT)
Thank God it's finally over.

Vuanaunt - August 7, 2009 05:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Aug 7 2009, 12:02 PM)
Thank God it's finally over.

Man, if there is anything that this show has taught me, its that you should wait 8 weeks 595 years before touching your homework. There will be no consequences...

wait no...

It takes 8 weeks 595 years before homework is exciting?
...

Here we go. Even if you're popular. and you make something popular, if you do something annoying, it will still be annoying. I think.

Still I didn't mind terribly, Season one was dubbed before I even knew it existed, and it kind of seemed like Season two wouldn't happen, so just knowing that there would be more episodes (after the EE) still made happy.
Optimism Defined


Dang, If I were an angrier person I could have used "Endless hate/ Endless h8" somewhere in there.
P.S. I am glad it's over though.

Vuanaunt - August 7, 2009 06:24 PM (GMT)
Anyone know good or bad that spin-off "haruhi-chan" is?

Kristof - August 7, 2009 08:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 7 2009, 01:39 PM)
QUOTE (Kristof @ Aug 7 2009, 12:02 PM)
Thank God it's finally over.

Man, if there is anything that this show has taught me, its that you should wait 8 weeks 595 years before touching your homework. There will be no consequences...

wait no...

It takes 8 weeks 595 years before homework is exciting?
...

Here we go. Even if you're popular. and you make something popular, if you do something annoying, it will still be annoying. Addendum: But you'll get away with it anyway.

There we go.

QUOTE
Dang, If I were an angrier person I could have used "Endless hate/ Endless h8" somewhere in there.

You should have anyway. :P Though, I guess you did, technically.

QUOTE
Anyone know how good or bad that spin-off "haruhi-chan" is?

I only watched one or two and it was months ago, so I dunno? Why am I even responding, then? Again, I dunno.

Pinky - August 8, 2009 10:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 7 2009, 06:24 PM)
Anyone know good or bad that spin-off "haruhi-chan" is?

It's cute. It's crazy. It's awesome.

EDIT: Also; if you want it summed up, I just fell in love with this.

Masterly - August 12, 2009 05:12 AM (GMT)
user posted image

I finally finished watching it.

Ryuu - August 12, 2009 05:48 AM (GMT)
hahaha I remember that doujin

Vuanaunt - August 12, 2009 06:32 AM (GMT)

"And with a strength I hadn't felt until now..."

QUOTE (Ryuu @ Aug 12 2009, 01:48 AM)
hahaha I remember that doujin


Dang, I wish I could remember that Doujin.

But I've never seen it before.

Someone please fill me in that looks hilarious, unless it's just a one shot.

Ryuu - August 12, 2009 06:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 12 2009, 02:32 AM)
"And with a strength I hadn't felt until now..."

QUOTE (Ryuu @ Aug 12 2009, 01:48 AM)
hahaha I remember that doujin


Dang, I wish I could remember that Doujin.

But I've never seen it before.

Someone please fill me in that looks hilarious, unless it's just a one shot.

well it's a porn doujin, so...

Vuanaunt - August 12, 2009 06:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ryuu @ Aug 12 2009, 02:32 AM)
well it's a porn doujin, so...

...nevermind then.




P.S. Man that was a quick reply.
Post Post Script: what day of the week do episodes come out on?

Ryuu - August 12, 2009 06:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 12 2009, 02:34 AM)
P.S. Man that was a quick reply.

my mmo is down for the rest of the night and I have nothing to do but refresh the internet until something comes to mind

Kristof - August 12, 2009 10:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ryuu @ Aug 12 2009, 02:45 AM)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 12 2009, 02:34 AM)
P.S. Man that was a quick reply.

my mmo is down for the rest of the night and I have nothing to do but refresh the internet until something comes to mind

That's what people like me who don't play MMOs do.

QUOTE
Post Post Script: what day of the week do episodes come out on?

Tends to be Thursday. In our part of the world anyway.

Also lawl at Kyonfist.

Clinton - August 12, 2009 06:11 PM (GMT)
Kyon-kun, denwa~

Vuanaunt - August 12, 2009 06:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Clinton @ Aug 12 2009, 02:11 PM)
Kyon-kun, denwa~

Ah! I'm tired of this.

Let's look for UFOs.


(Though I do think what you did there was hilarious)




...ZZZzzzZZZzzz...

Ryuu - August 13, 2009 04:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Vuanaunt @ Aug 12 2009, 02:18 PM)
Let's look for UFOs.

UFO comes out this weekend I am excited.




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