Observation post, reserching with out being seen.

This is an idea I have been toying with. The idea is About setting up a mock Camp with a tent, fire, even a team member playing "THE BATE." Acting like a normal camper just out camping for the weekend. Or have a team member "fishing." Or setting up a bate station eather with food or sound to act as a lure to atract a sasquatch. Then set up a O.P. (observation post) Far enough away not to stand out but close enough to be able to watch what is going on in the target area.

The O.P. should be camoflaged and designed in such a way that when you are useing cameras, laptops, any recording eqwipment that is used to recored what transpires, gose on undetected. The point to this would be that as the "Bate" eather person or object acts normal it could lure a sasquatch to the area. in the situation of a team member acting as "bate" gose about normal fishing or camping actions, the vibe that is givin off could case a sasquatch to be more curious then deffensive and they would come in closer to investagate the target area. As some reports have sugested.

The O.P. is used to watch and document what transpires during the recon. The O.P. could be eather a type of camoflage blind or even a tree stand that has been modified for this perpous. This could also help in providing security for that main camp during the night.

Nice topic. Great idea! We have heard of some groups using this method with some success. One group even had a getto blaster playing children playing audios. Plus baby's crying. They set up trailcams to watch the fake campsite. I believe it was the group Squatch Inc.

It is something that we should definitely try this year. Thanks Samsqwecnch. Keep the great ideas coming.

i thought it would be! I figured that if sasquatch is as smart as we think that it is they might be able pick up the vibe of people looking for it. By the actions that we make in the filed. it could be a type of infrasound. Just like us, when a person can feel the vibe of a place or a situation they can to.

With our intelagence we can look at a persons body language or demeaner and could prodict what thier actions or what they even thinking with ease . we know other animals can pick up this on a basic level, But maybe a sasquatch could be able to determin what actions are hostail and whats not by watching better then most animals.

With an O.P. you can eliminate most of what could come off as hostile actions and look non thretining.

Hey Samsqwecnch; This is great, do you have any ideas of where something like this could be done? I mean, have you looked at some areas that might offer a really good layout to do such a thing? I think you could make a pretty comfy O.P. and settle yourself right in with the right setting.
Do you have any plans for the spring "thaw" to do something like this?

Well the great thing about this is that You could set this up any where. you would just have to ajust the camoflage to your location. I have thought of a design for a type of blind for temporary aplacation. You could use this if you tend to set up a O.P. in defferant ares, if one area gets to worn out. Or you chose to set up differant types of "bate." A tree stand can be very useful aswell, it alows you to be above ground, it gives you a better vantage point, and be closer to the action. This could be a good idea to use untill you find that "sweet spot"

Once you find that "sweet spot" you can also make a permanent O.P. in a that target area. The great thing about a permanent O.P. is that you can modifi and add to it. You could even dig it into the ground inorder to lower the O.P. and making it vertualy disapear into the landscape, and also alow you to bring more equpment and team members in and it will be alot more cozyer then a temporary O.P.

It just depends on where the location is , and the type of "bate" you want to set up. The situation would dictate what Kind of O.P. to set up.

I like the idea of digging in and lowering your profile closer to the ground. What about camo? How else would you cover up your tracks or your presence? Would you just lie low in a camo blind or hut? I see that Canadian tire has some of their blinds on for literally half price!

Camo is my favorite Color lol. The thing about camo is that you use it to take away the silouet (outline) of what you want to camoflage. By doing this you can make tent for example look like a bush if done right. The best type of camo I find has to be natural to the area you are in. You want a base color that fits the landscape. You can't take a color like hunter orange and put some leaf's and twigs on it and think you wont be seen. Green's, brown's, tan's any earth tones will do. From there if you add grass, twigs, leafs, or any plant material to what to camo. This will make a huge differance.

The best example is to look at guili suits that a sniper will wear. when worn the look like a walking bush and they completly disapear into the landscape. The best why to make one cheep is the take some old camo clothing and buy some berlap cut the berlap in to small strips, you could even seperat the berlap into small strands and sew or glue them onto the clothing that you have chosen to use. Then you can attach elastics to the garment to allow you to put real plant material to it. This could take some time but the end reslult is amazing. You just have to change the plant material as you move throug the differant types of landscapes.

I do like some of the hunting blinds that they have got out there but they still look like tents. there is still an outline to them. They will fool most game out there for hunters but it might not work for the big guy. what do you think?

In my opinion I think that best O.P. set up is one that is made on the spot. Your using fallen tree limbs, Dirt, and plant material even a fallen tree from the area and aslong as you build it into the right spot, you will blend into the the back ground

The olny thing that just came to my mind is. If sasquatch has a grater intelagence then most animals, if a O.P. is set up in its teratory it might catch on pretty fast. To see a bush that was not ther befor suddenly appear could spook it. The only saloution that I can see if that is the case is to dig the O.P. into the ground. Its not that noticeable and again done right you would not be able to tell that any change has been made to the area.

I just had a thought that just jumped out at me as I was wrighting in my last post about personal camo and guili suits. We know that sasquatch are very cryptic and elusive, well lets play that game too. What if we set up a ( we will call it a mobile O.P.) you have two teams a "bate" team and a " fallow up" or "recon" team. The bate team is going on a "hike" Both teams set a start and finish point and as the "bate" gose out hiking the other team in full camo stealthfuly moves through the bush behind the "bate" team watching to see what comes out behind them.

What do you think?

As far as I know.. you can not trick a squatch... even trying to hide your presence is enough to send them out of the county. You want to be seen at all times and you never want to carry sticks or even a tripod in your hand, they know hunters and hunting... what you want is for them to notice that..."you" are different than anyone else in the woods... you whistle to them, you mimic grumbles, you rock clack, you push over dead trees, you break branches like they do and you smack the odd tree along the way... wear all black only... even in the summer no camo... they may mistake you for another squatch and walk right up to you, they are nervous around hunting parties and will move out of the way... they know if you're trying to make contact and thats what they trust, if you look like the regular joe in the woods they aren't interested much...

but the crying thing will bring in deer wolves and squatch... try a predator call imitating a jack rabbit its a lower note call... probably work better than a recording because you can walk around with it and change tempo easily... just a thought......mike

That makes a lot of sense Mike. I think I might just try that.

Works for me... my partner another mike calls me a sasquatch magnet...he tells people that i can bring them in from 10 miles away!... and i can.... but it takes a couple days though?

Usually when i get them near our camp they pound the hell out of my truck while i'm asleep...or drop a tree beside where i'm walking...foot stomping is often heard too.. sometimes i've been hit with small sticks or stones...the worse part is when they approach too close i get really paranoid... they have blocked me twice from leaving an area... both times...the blocking happened when i was alone... the last time i was stuck for 41/2 hours with nowhere out..... all i could do was huddle up and sleep with my ears open..yawn!

I almost forgot the best part.... never walk in the woods with a baseball cap again... buy your self a cowboy hat or something you like but it has to be different, like a wide brim all around... a fly fishing hat anything as long as its not a baseball cap.... and no camo ok? the first thing a squatch sees is your head... dont look like all the other outdoors men... make sure you stand out!!! did i mention to wear all black? thats important too.... mike

ok mike i am confused in how you think that camo will make you look like a sasquatch more then wearing just plan black. Camo is ment to blend into the background and if done right you wont be noticed by any liveing creature no matter how intelagent. If it can fool a people I am very confadent it will fool a sasquatch. Black to me stands out like a sore thumb in the bush and because black can resemble dark brown hair from a distance, can look more like a sasquatch then camo would.

Now I do understand that Hunting parties can scare a sasquatch. I dont think that its the camo or the group of people in the bush alone will. Its in the agresive actions that hunters make. Body lanuage is a basic instinct that every liveing creature understands. Holding sticks or tripods stones in you hands can look like a hostile action.


So sence you have so many encounters with sasquatch do you have video of your encounters? I would love to see them.

I don't mean to sound harsh here mike and any thing is posable. I am a hunter and have some military experance, I know how camo works. Now as for going out in the bush and makeing sounds and actions like a sasquatch dose work very well, and thats a intresting point about using a predetor call. I brought up this topic in order to desucss a alternative way to research. I feel if a reseacher can pull this off we might be able to get more of a personal view of sasquatch. We could see what it dose when it is actting on its own day to day actions and not what it dose when it knows when people are there. I have read many reports of people being hiden in the bush and sasquatch has never noticed them. So fooling a sasquatch is very posable. I do not think they are a super species and nothing can out smart them.

When searching for such an elusive creature such as Sasquatch or even a Cougar we need to try anything and everything. If wearing black helps I'm sure we wouldn't have an issue with tying it.

We discussed this on the show on Sat. (Simply Sasquatch)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simplysasquatch
with a warm reception for the idea of wearing black and the concept behind it. Great idea Chingaso!

I think if we are just doing an observation point deep in the woods and we are staying put, we would do the camouflage setup. If we wonder off into the bush to explore we will try to do the black clothing idea. They both might just work.

Chingaso I watched your Sasquatch structures video and love it. http://z15.invisionfree.com/OWFR/index.php...c=63&st=0&#last
That aspect of the research really intrigues me. You have captured them perfectly. The fact that they are from Ontario is really cool. (Kinmount)

Any thoughts or ideas what they are for? Shelter? Hide for hunting? Juvenile playpens to keep the young ones secure while the adults hunt or gather food? Territory marker? Temp food storage?

I will start a new topic on this subject after reply.

The idea of being up in a tree, for an extended period of time, has always been on the top of my list for observation. Trouble is, a tree stand can be quite uncomfortable. Tim, if you remember, at Still River, there was a trail that we took when I lost my lens cap.

A structure was made high up in the trees which looked more like a tree fort but afforded you the ability to at least move around, cover the whole thing with a weatherproof tarp, even have more than one person up there. That's the sort of setup I think would offer the most opportunity in all areas.



This post has been edited by Tim Ervick on Feb 14 2011, 11:05 AM