RMT :D

Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers ** The Trees
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 36 HP / 220 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Endeavor
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Leaf Blade
- Substitute

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Have a Cigar
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 60 HP / 36 Def / 160 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Metagross @ Leftovers ** Iron Man
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 44 HP / 244 Atk / 220 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Time
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 196 HP / 40 Atk / 252 Def / 20 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Glass Prison
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 172 HP / 180 Atk / 16 Def / 140 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Frustration
- Rest
- Shadow Ball

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers ** Tom Sawyer
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Atk / 80 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Rock Slide

with sceptile out of the way and a little luck, swampert can have fun with that team..

Please post if you are going to be helpful =/

Obviously if my swampert counter dies then I have a swampert weak

Sceptile usually stays in for the first turn and then switches out because a counter is in. He doesnt get used again until late into the game.

i was just pointing that if scep was out of the way (wich wouldn't be hard to do) you would lose the match against a simple swamp

-Sceptile @ Petaya plox. Sub Seed is better.
-Max HP to survive a RS from gross or mence > Speed to outspeed Cross. Modest every time. (zappy)
-Never Liked ST Gross - Zappy does it better.
-Skarms HP and Def Evs are the wrong way round.
-I like more Def on Lax, but w/e.
-Donphan is ****.

Serious Defence overkill.
Nothing can swap into Medicham without dying next turn. Bit of a Hera Weak too. Though Skarm saves you from that... Just.

Medicham I almost never see, and most of my pokes are faster or can survive a hit from him. Cross isnt much of a problem. Swampert gives me no trouble at all.

BTW, Fighting Master, Petaya loses to Ttar, and subseed just stalls for a short period of time. Sleep Talk beats Gengar with ease.

Hardly anyone uses rs gross, and zappy outspeeds mence. Max hp is a waste. Timid for 302 speed. 349 sp.att is more than enough, and 336 hp gets the job done.

Skarms EVs are fine, and I will never change them.

More defense on lax is pointless because I have curse, and three other defense tanks.

Donphan does not suck, he is awesome. He is my ddtar counter. You suck if you think donphan sucks.

Do not flame!

And don't underestimate Medicham(I use it).

Who's flaming?

I never said Medicham is bad, I just don't see it very often so it isnt much of a problem.

I use it all the time.

But the only ones that you would swap into it would be Zapdos, (who doesn't OHKO cham) Who is 2HKOed, Donphan - Who is also 2HKOed and doesn't outspeed it, Metagross, who is also 2HKOed who ALSO doesn't outspeed it, and Skarm - Who is Also 2HKOed and also won't outrun it.
That "most" turned out to be 1. Nice try though
Oh yeah, only 2 of your whole team actually outspeed Adamant Cham. Shame that you overlooked that

Except when you use 3 Subs, then OHKO it.
After its dead, you just sweep for as long as you can.

Metagross beats Gengar with ease, period.
Seeing as you need some sweeping potential, please have a look at Aligross.

CB Gross says hi - and it survives a CB RS w/ Max HP. I must have missed that, but of course I had to explain this to you =/
DD Mence says hi too.

Your Choice I guess, but Max HP ST Zappy w/ Modest is the ****, and you should really use it imo.

0_o
Just saying all it needs is 400 Def, and without max HP it kinda gets loled at.

w/e
180 Def ftw though.

True, but you don't really have any trouble with DD Tar And I was speaking in context with this team.
But he does spin, which is quite usefull

Where dude?

I'm sure people use medicham, I just have never played against one with this team. I am aware that it 2hkos my pokes. Ok, so most of my pokes can't outspeed it, but 2 can, and that is good enough. Petaya sucks, ttar can switch out to blissey or something. I don't want or need agiligross, and I need a sleep absorber. Ok, so cbgross can hurt me. Who cares? It hurts anything. If I see one, I'll switch in something OTHER than zapdos. I don't need st zapdos because I have st gross, and baton pass is better IMO. 416 defense is fine for skarm, as is 320 hp for max lefties recovery. Tell me when 334 hp will help me more in any situation and I may use it. DD Mence doesn't beat me, donphan, skarm for non fb, zappy for non rs beat it. Snorlax has 170 defense, and I'd rather put the remaining evs in sp.def.

I don't really use this team anymore, so you can close this.

Just saying the standard Evs for Skarm. And they are standard for a reason.

Zappy ST's better than Gross.

Aligross will fit so well on this team.

Honestly, who would keep T-Tar in against sceppy anyway? They would swap it out first turn; so I don't know where this came from in the first place.

CB Gross does **** to any Bulky Water.

non RS DD mence is lol.
But Skarm walls it, yup.

Lax - 330 SDef, 501 HP 180 Def and rest in Atk.
I like that spread the best, but w/e

Did you not read what I last posted? I don't use this team anymore, so don't post here.

I was just clearing some **** up.

BTW, you never did say why max hp skarm is better than max defense skarm. Why are they standard? What makes skarm so great with 334 hp instead of 320? Sometimes the standard isn't always the best.

HP > Defences any day.