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Title: Kat fan fiction
Description: Uncanny and uncanon


Pedda - August 23, 2006 11:51 PM (GMT)
Kat fan fiction

Uncanny and uncanon


Like so many other franchises before, the new BSG has spawned a plethora of fan-written, uncanon fiction whose themes, topics, tone, steaminess and quality vary greatly, of course. This is the place to share and discuss fan fiction stories or even novellas that feature Louanne "Kat" Katraine.


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Personally, I'm not really into fan fics, I rarely read them. This is especially true for all the steamy stories about so called dream pairings - well, the appeal eludes me. Nevertheless, when I googled Luciana Carro and browsed through the results pages, I stumbled over a R-rated fan fic that focuses on the alleged attraction between Kat and Kara.

It is mainly set in the senior officers' showers, and that says enough, I guess. :naughty: I'm sorry to start the Kat fan fic collection with this kind of story, but pervert Frosty ;) specifically asked for it. Since posting of links to delicate stuff isn't allowed on Invision Free boards, I tell you to search for the phrase "sic sic heretic", the authors pseudonym.

Apart from the general style and level of writing (choice of words, phrasing, syntax), the fan fic is not that good. I'm not opposed to (female) homosexuality in general, or to Kat having a girlfriend in particular, not at all. The attraction between Kara and Kat, however, seems contrived, to say the least. The motivations are highly OOC (out of character).

Anyway, if you like to read about the joy of "exploring one's womanhood" :lol:, go give it a try... :unsure:

FrostyJG - August 24, 2006 07:07 AM (GMT)
Oh, I didn't know it was this kind of fan fic :wacko: :blink: :o :huh: :blushing:
I haven't read a single BSG fan fic so far, but from what I understand there are some people who write quite interesting fan fic stories and even some of the actors read them. If I remember correctly, Leah Cairns said in an interview she and Tahmoh Penikett had included fan fic stuff into the (unofficial) background story of their characters.
But you are right, this particular story isn't good and completely out of character! (Well, judging from the single paragraph I picked at random at least. I haven’t read the full story ;) )
Now I'm almost sorry for asking for it...

Solium - August 24, 2006 10:29 AM (GMT)
I was actually an admin for Sic Sic's old forum that has since been closed down. I know the fic your talking about. In fact I even did a little fan art to go with the fic for Sic. :P

Edit: Found it: Click on the thumbnail if your curious...

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FrostyJG - August 24, 2006 11:58 AM (GMT)
Beautiful picture, Solium! I love it. :wub:
Maybe I will read the story after all. I just noticed the story was written before Scar aired, we didn’t know that much about the Kara/Kat relationship back then. Something like what happened in this story was unlikely even before Scar, but the intention of the story obviously was just to bring two interesting characters together.

Again, nice artwork! You really are talented. :thumbsup:

Solium - August 24, 2006 09:49 PM (GMT)
Thank you very much FrostyJG! :dancingbunny: :D

Pedda - September 16, 2006 08:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Frosty)
Oh, I didn't know it was this kind of fan fic

Now I'm almost sorry for asking for it...


:whistle2: Um... what did you expect? I said it was R-rated... Usually, this does not refer to exceptional violence or verbal profanity. :naughty:

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I was actually an admin for Sic Sic's old forum that has since been closed down. I know the fic you're talking about. In fact I even did a little fan art to go with the fic for Sic.


:lol: That's just great! Obviously, the BSG web fandom is a really small world. Wouldn't have guessed that connection between you two. An illustrator of explicit fanfics... hehehe. If Lucci knew about this. ;) Personally, I think the artwork is too kitschy, but it was well-composed nonetheless.

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Shadowcat - October 1, 2006 03:53 PM (GMT)
I have fpound this FF about Kat in a LJ who can people post her FF
Here is the link to the FF

http://www.secretloft.com/bsg/viewstory.php?sid=344

LG Shadow

Pedda - August 13, 2007 11:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shadowcat @ Oct 1 2006, 04:53 PM)
I have fpound this FF about Kat in a LJ who can people post her FF
Here is the link to the FF

http://www.secretloft.com/bsg/viewstory.php?sid=344

Actually, Kat only serves as a story-teller of some kind of K/L fan fic, but it's well-written nonetheless.

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As it happens, I found another another femslash story, "Tango" (Racetrack/Kat) by widget285. Just choose "bsg_erotica" at the tag list in the right column. Well, love it or hate it, but don't shoot the messenger. ;)

Solium - August 14, 2007 12:44 AM (GMT)
Why do these things always sway towards erotica! :rofl2: :whistle2:

FrostyJG - August 14, 2007 10:16 AM (GMT)
Before BSG I had no experience with fan fic storys, but I always assumed it were stories were fans try to expand the original storys or offer alternates to it by telling storys that are close to the original or appeal to the same general audience. Now it seems to me that most of these stories are just erotic short stories. :rolleyes: Usually I’m not prudish and don’t mind it when people have fantasies, but I wonder how the actors who play these characters feel about it when they discover these stories on the internet. :unsure:

Solium - August 14, 2007 10:56 AM (GMT)
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assumed it were stories were fans try to expand the original stories or offer alternates


My experience fan fics go way back to the early 1970's when fans used to publish "fanzines", which were very small fan created magazines. Normally in black and white and half the size of a regular magazine. In fact many times the fanzine was nothing more than zerox pages hand stapled. Sometimes they were handed out for free, other times for a few dollars.

To my knowledge fanzines in general consisted of fan stories about their favorite characters from their favorite TV series, books or movies along with fan art.

I don't think there was as much erotica as there is today. Written erotica doesn’t really interest me, but it doesn’t bother me either. I do wonder how an actor feels about such things. :unsure:

Pedda - August 15, 2007 10:21 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solium)
Why do these things always sway towards erotica!

It's hard to estimate the share of erotic fan fic, especially across (sections) of fandoms and across time. But there sure seems to be a lot of it, and it's probably the genre/type that gets by far the most attention, too.

Having only written one or two fan fics and reading them in rare cases only, I wonder, too, why so many writers, particulary the female authors, choose to describe erotic encounters. On the one hand, obviously, certain human interaction is much more interesting than, say, routine talks or complex space action. Plus, even among the erotic crowd, many people have laudable skills in describing sceneries or capturing the essence of a character.

On the other hand, I have no idea why they just don't grow tired of all the sex stuff. My guess would be that for lots of fan fic writers, erotic stories are a form of sensual fantasy, getting you closer or even close to a someone (whether fictional or non-fictional) whom you admire or desire. :unsure:

QUOTE (Frosty)
But I wonder how the actors who play these characters feel about it when they discover these stories on the internet.

Depends on both the actor and the quality of the "first-contact" story, I'd say. As you probably know, Leah Cairns and Tahmoh Penikett once read the (non-explicit) Helo/'Track segment of sabaceanbabe's anthology "Five fraks that may or may not have happened to Helo" at a party.

"Cairns decided that she'd work that into the character. While not canonical or acknowledged by the writers, Cairns said in an interview on June 27th, 2006, that she chose to incorporate this into her character backstory and how she plays scenes with Helo, that she is wildly attracted to him and jealous of Sharon Agathon. Although Sharon isn't supposed to know about this, Penikett reacts with underlying tension in his scenes with her." (Source)

In contrast, this is how what Jewel Staite (Kaylee in "Firefly", Keller in "SG: Atlantis") answered a question on fan fic: "Have I ever read fan fiction on the internet? Once, a long time ago, I got curious (wouldn't you?) and I started reading something about Jayne and Kaylee getting it on and started barfing. No more fan fic for me. But knock your horny selves out."

QUOTE (Solium)
My experience fan fics go way back to the early 1970's when fans used to publish "fanzines", which were very small fan created magazines.

Hehe, it's interesting to learn how the fandom "worked" prior to the broad use of the Internet. There are still real-life "Star Trek" clubs in many German cities, but I can't even imagine what exactly they're doing there. Well, I remember getting my hands on one of these black-and-white fanzines eight years ago. Haven't seen them ever since. Do you miss these times, Solium? Did you actively participate in the local sci-fi fandom?

Solium - August 15, 2007 10:48 AM (GMT)
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But knock your horny selves out

:rofl2: :whistle2:

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Do you miss these times, Solium?


While I "do" remember the "70's" I was rather young. :whistle2: But to answer your question, fanzines is something I remember reading about as an very young aspiring artist. It was one of the best ways to get "published" Back then getting any of your work published "showed you could deliver work on time" and show cased the quality of work. Most of the time this artwork would be "pen and ink" rendering. Ahh, the good old days of inking by hand and using such techniques as "crosshatching" and "stippling"!

I was just old enough to read books on these things but to young and under developed as an artist to actually approach any fanzine with my work.

FrostyJG - August 15, 2007 11:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pedda @ Aug 15 2007, 12:21 PM)
On the other hand, I have no idea why they just don't grow tired of all the sex stuff. My guess would be that for lots of fan fic writers, erotic stories are a form of sensual fantasy, getting you closer or even close to a someone (whether fictional or non-fictional) whom you admire or desire.  :unsure:

You are probably right about that.

QUOTE (Pedda @ Aug 15 2007, 12:21 PM)

Depends on both the actor and the quality of the "first-contact" story, I'd say. As you probably know, Leah Cairns and Tahmoh Penikett once read the (non-explicit) Helo/'Track segment of sabaceanbabe's anthology "Five fraks that may or may not have happened to Helo" at a party.

Yes, of course I know about Leah Cairns and Tahmoh Penikett and also about Jewel Staite’s blog entry.
But since Leah actively seeks Racetrack fan fics, she probably came across some more explicit stuff, and I don’t know what her opinion is on that. (And I won’t ask her about it, of course). My guess is that she doesn’t have a big problem with it, though. :scratchin:
But I don’t know how other actors, like Luciana, would react if they found such stories about their characters. Would Luciana be offended by something like that or would she be okay with it?
Aside from that I don’t think there is anything wrong with these kind of fan fics, they are just not what I usually read. And I haven’t read the story Pedda mentioned a few posts earlier, so I can’t comment on it specifically.

Solium: That’s quite interesting; I’ve never seen such fanzines. The internet is such a big part part of everyday life now, so it interesting how things were back then. While I was a scifi fan long before the internet became popular, I wasn’t really aware of the fandom and what the fans did to show their appreciation for a show, I just watched the episodes.

Pedda - August 16, 2007 10:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solium @ Aug 15 2007, 11:48 AM)
...fanzines is something I remember reading about as an very young aspiring artist. It was one of the best ways to get "published" Back then getting any of your work published "showed you could deliver work on time" and show cased the quality of work. Most of the time this artwork would be "pen and ink" rendering. Ahh, the good old days of inking by hand and using such techniques as "crosshatching" and "stippling"!

Had to look up the last two words. ;) Indeed, they seem to come from another time, while now the only art you see is what people created with the help of Photoshop and posted on the Internet. It may be a truism, but as you noted in your blog entry, the advent of the WWW has changed more than what I usually realize.

So back then, fan artists had only fanzines to make themselves known, an almost disturbing thought. Well, I guess it had positive effects, too, ranging from proving reliability (as you said) to dedicating more time to single pieces of art, instead of just showering people with your latest batch of one hundred icons or twenty fanficlets.

QUOTE (Frosty)
But I don’t know how other actors, like Luciana, would react if they found such stories about their characters. Would Luciana be offended by something like that or would she be okay with it?

Hard to tell - as seen above, there's large continuum of potential reactions between the two extremes represented by Leah Cairns and Jewel Staite, respectively. At the G3 in London, Alessandro Juliani even said he searches for Gaeta slash fic and feels entertained by some of them.

Lucci would probably not be the person to get mad about such things, but without being close to a person, it's not easy to determine what they can take, where they draw the line.

FrostyJG - August 16, 2007 10:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pedda @ Aug 17 2007, 12:34 AM)
At the G3 in London, Alessandro Juliani even said he searches for Gaeta slash fic and feels entertained by some of them.

Ah, when I browsed the index of a BSG fanfic directory a few months ago, I was surprised at how much gay Gaeta fics. I wondered what Alessandro Juliani might think about that, but I wouldn’t have imagined he actively seeks for them! :D

QUOTE (Pedda @ Aug 17 2007, 12:34 AM)
Lucci would probably not be the person to get mad about such things, but without being close to a person, it's not easy to determine what they can take, where they draw the line.

Yes, you are right of course and I agree.
While she probably wouldn’t be mad about it, my guess from what we know about her is she wouldn’t particularly like it, either. But like you said, one can’t know for sure without being close to her.

Solium - August 17, 2007 03:29 AM (GMT)
A little OT: I grew up learning "commercial art", this meant drawing with pencils, inking with pens, painting with water color, and acrylics.

Yes, in those days one piece of artwork took days, weeks to complete. It was not instant gratification like the digital world where you can copy and paste, a tree leaf a hundred times to fill out the branches on your rendering of a tree.

It is VERY difficult for me to sit down and draw, I am spoiled myself on the instant gratification of producing a lovely piece of photo manipulated fan art in an hour or two.

On a side, note we didn’t have FedEX back then either. We didn’t have over night shipping, packages didn’t come in a week. They took MONTHS. Send out your (paper) portfolio to an ad agency or a book publisher in hopes of getting freelance work, and you might get a job offer or rejection letter in 6 to 12 weeks. Sometimes it took 6 months!

In some ways it was "better" back then. Companies would gamble with "new" talent. Today, if you are not already published, shown a reliable track record, demonstrate there is demand for your work, or represented by an agent you cannot even get your work seen. How do you get an agent? If you have shown a reliable track record, or been published!

FrostyJG - August 17, 2007 04:13 PM (GMT)
Solium, do you create art exclusively on your computer for your job, or do you still sometimes work the "old fashioned" way? People who can paint a beautiful picture just with brush or a pencil, without an undo button are very gifted in my opinion, and it’s kind of sad this kind of work is barely used nowadays.
The biggest advantage of computer generated art for the less talented people like me is that we can at least create some (fan) art, even if it’s not exactly spectacular.

What you say about new talents is sad. It must be very difficult to get noticed and get a chance to prove oneself.

Solium - August 18, 2007 12:38 AM (GMT)
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Solium, do you create art exclusively on your computer for your job


I have creative freedom to sketch or do cartoons and include them in the ads I do. But the truth is, we have to complete work pretty fast, an ad every one or two hours. Its not really a pressure job, but we have to pump things out so I really don’t have time to draw, scan and digitally color my work.

I pretty much work in Photoshop and Dreamweaver. I created photo manipulated automobile ads for email campaigns BTW, our emails are "legally" acquired ALA a Best Buy or Amazon email campaign. :P

We are way OT!

Click Here to see the work I do

Pedda - August 18, 2007 04:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Solium @ Aug 17 2007, 04:29 AM)
It was not instant gratification like the digital world where you can copy and paste, a tree leaf a hundred times to fill out the branches on your rendering of a tree.

It is VERY difficult for me to sit down and draw, I am spoiled myself on the instant gratification of producing a lovely piece of photo manipulated fan art in an hour or two.

You're description is dead-on. When I think about myself, it's almost shocking how spoilt we are, not only with regard to art, of course, but with respect to pretty much everything else. You know, I have no problem with spending a week in a place that has neither cell phone coverage nor internet access, but I wonder how I would cope with such limitations and de-accelerations of life over the course of, say, four weeks.

QUOTE (Frosty)
The biggest advantage of computer generated art for the less talented people like me is that we can at least create some (fan) art, even if it’s not exactly spectacular.

What you say about new talents is sad. It must be very difficult to get noticed and get a chance to prove oneself.

Honestly, I thought that it was exactly the Internet that allowed more of the rather unknown or non-mainstream artists to prove themselves, to make themselves heard, to gain an audience, and to be finally noticed by someone who hands out money.

Together with the opportunities granted to fans masquerading as artists (such as me or Frosty), this is what I would call the arts democratization effect of the web. :unsure:

Solium - August 19, 2007 12:48 AM (GMT)
I certainly think the internet is a new and powerful tool for getting the attention of art directors.

I can tell you most of my interviews and hiring bosses started the interview by saying, we were so impressed with your online portfolio.

The caveat is that you have to be able to contact them directly and then convince them its worth their time to check out your online portfolio.




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