Lloyd England - Pentagon Cabbie, Light pole hit his cab

I was reading the LC Blog and saw a link to the Bob Pugh Movie site.

While reading different things on this site, I came across this picture of a cab driver who's cab was supposedly hit by light pole #1.


Picture of Cab driver and cab, found at <a href='http://pentagonresearch.com/images/021.jpg' target='_blank'>http://pentagonresearch.com/images/021.jpg</a>

There must be a way to track down this eye-witness. There is a phone number and licence plate very clear in the picture.

I don't know if anyone has thought of this before, but I thought I would bring it up in case no one has.

in THIS thread on letsroll911.org Merc Mercy has researched the cab story and come up with some unexpected conclusions/questions.

Check it out.

One of the other eyewitnesses posts at http://board.crewcial.org/ . I don't remember his username but if you register you can get to a search function and search it.

I would have done the work for ya but my account isn't logging in.

The noise of this plane flying 4 feet off the ground over cars and people's heads would also cause the cars to fly off the roads and ear drums to completly burst. It hurts to hear a 757 taking off hundreds of feet away, let alone 4.

Look at this video, there is a better one done by the Air Force but I cant find it.


http://shawn811.groglives.com/Jet%20Flip%20Plane_small.gif


An engine operates on the application of Sir Isaac Newton's third law of physics: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is called thrust. This law is demonstrated in simple terms by releasing an inflated balloon and watching the escaping air propel the balloon in the opposite direction. In the basic turbojet engine, air enters the front intake and is compressed, then forced into combustion chambers where fuel is sprayed into it and the mixture is ignited. Gases which form expand rapidly and are exhausted through the rear of the combustion chambers. These gases exert equal force in all directions, providing forward thrust as they escape to the rear.



In other words anyone who saw or was in their car at a close range of these engines would have been toast.

Yet Another Flight 77 “witness” Emerges

Culhavoc
April 25th, 2006
Deconstructing a False-Flag Operation



Lloyd England, whos name when included with the word "pentagon" returns zero results in google, told a reporter "The plane was so low it hit the light pole, and when it hit the pole it knocked the light part off and nothing came through the car but the pole itself."
(source)

England's claim comes at a time when the U.S. Government has been campaigning to reinforce the official story of 9/11. As I noted in a previous blog entry, the introduction of erroneous evidence in the Moussaoui sentencing trial coupled with a flood of books and film on the subject make it clear that this is a concerted effort designed to shape public opinion.

Of the four alleged planes involved in the attacks, flights 77 and 93 are the most heavily debated. With 9/11 truth reaching critical mass, it's quite understandable that the 9/11 perps would attempt to shore up their version of events by any means neccessary. Too bad for them it's quite obvious.


-Culhavoc

This post has been edited by Culhavoc on Apr 25 2006, 09:31 PM

Or create something else to take the heat away from 9-11? Let's hope not...

But... wait wait wait! He is one of the key witness. He can not "Emerges" like that!

This post has been edited by behind on Apr 26 2006, 01:55 PM

Pretty crazy eh? It appears as though the 9/11 perps sat on this guy for over 4 years and put him to use when 9/11 truth is reaching critical mass.



This, in addtion to the recently released photos of alleged UA93 and AA77 wreckage, introduced in the Moussaoui sentencing trial.

-Culhavoc

This post has been edited by Culhavoc on Apr 26 2006, 02:07 PM

The enemy is smart and cunning.

We must become smarter and more cunning.

Protect the people.

We shall be victorious.




Meth

I am still having a hard time finding Lloyd England referenced in mainstream media. It's as though he never existed. However, survivorsfundproject.org published the following:

This report ONLY makes sense if the explosion that is mentioned is the secondary explosion in the Pentagon's outer ring and not the impact of whatever hit the building.

-Culhavoc

This post has been edited by Culhavoc on Apr 26 2006, 06:43 PM

This is intresting. I remember serval months ago it was some talk about him at Lets Roll Forum.

That part in his story is quite suspect.

There's two points to be noted here.

1. He never says he saw the plane hit. He says he saw a plane flying overhead, and a light pole falling down. So if his retelling is accurate.

The possibility remains that there might have been a plane in the area. The light pole might have been knocked down. Once the light pole was knocked down, it is possible that the explosion did not occur until some time after because it was not the plane that hit the building.

2. Why did he have to get a new car? if you look at any photo. All he would have to do is replace a windshield. Unless the government confisgated his car.

This post has been edited by Style on Apr 26 2006, 11:48 PM

Yes, it is very strange. This gay is "suspicious"

Like I say before... very interesting.

Upon looking at this pitcture again, I realized there are no skid marks anywhere on the road around this car. So there is no damage to the car or the road, except the windshield. It sure looks like the driver parked, and whacked the windshield with a crowbar to me.

Hi there,

Given that it does not seem to be a ligit cab, I don;t think that the picture of the guy would be a credable witness...

I posted this on another thread here:

(I go babbling on abit to set up the above pic)

...I looked up the phone number on 411.com and there was no number listed for what I am assuming would be 202-546-4500, the area code for Washington DC.

The correct number for the cab company is:

Capitol Cab CO
3341 Benning Rd Ne, Washington, DC 20019
(202) 636-1600

that and the car looks to be parked diagonally across the road, with lane barriers behind it. Is it blocking traffic on purpose?

Can anyone look up the plates on the cab to see who they belong to?

Did you call the cab company and ask about it? I tried to do a Reverse Plate Search but they cost like 25-75$ a pop....

This post has been edited by DJLegacy2k1 on May 3 2006, 07:51 AM

No, I just looked up the number but did not call the company

Here are some details on the cab driver.

Cab driver/Pole number 1.

Main Lamp Pole Page

Russell

This is the first time I've read into the cab driver story... great stuff.

The lamppost was supposedly knocked onto his cab by the plane, and he (and 'The Flash' passerby) had enough time to stop, get out and pull the lamppost off his car before the plane (or missile) hit???

These guys are fast as lightning! They defy time! They should do shoe commercials!


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This is weird. It's as if the cabbie didn't hear the explosion of the "plane". Also note that the windshield of the cab is broken, but the hood is completely untouched.

hi-res

Screw the hood, something's seriously wrong with TIME in his story.

Now the plane slows down suddenly to 10 mph while...

The airliner suddenly resumed speed, struck the Pentagon, and...

There is another article about this here:

This is interesting: the hood of his taxi doesn't have a scratch on it.

I wonder if this "evidence" (supposedly of Flight 77 flying just feet above the ground) could have been prepared in advance, and was in fact the "road accident" mentioned in the following article, where it says: "Probst took a sidewalk alongside Route 27, which runs near the Pentagon's western face. Traffic was at a standstill because of a road accident. Then, at about 9:35 a.m., he saw the airliner in the cloudless September sky."
http://www.militarycity.com/sept11/fortress1.html

Here's another thing I've wondered. There are several pieces of evidence I've come across that suggest the Pentagon may have been in the middle of a training exercise the morning of 9/11, and this exercise could have been based around a plane crashing into it:

1) Captain Charles Leidig, the deputy for Command Center operations at the NMCC (in the Pentagon), took over temporarily from Brigadier General Montague Winfield on 9/11 and was effectively in charge of NMCC during the attacks. Winfield had requested the previous day that Leidig stand in for him on September 11. Leidig had started his role as Deputy for Command Center Operations two months earlier and had qualified to stand in for Winfield just the previous month. See:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context...=a830rookienmcc
Couldn't the reason (or the excuse) for this have been that they were holding a training exercise at the Pentagon, and this was claimed to be a good opportunity for Leidig to gain experience? Hence, why they were able to put him in charge of the NMCC.

2) See the following entry from the Complete 9/11 Timeline:

This again would fit with them having a training exercise based on a plane hitting the Pentagon on 9/11. (But, presumably, this would be classified information, so none of the participants is able to admit, straight out, that this was happening.)

3) At Fort Myer, an army base just 1.5 miles from the Pentagon, the base's firefighters were doing a training course during the week of 9/11 (including the day itself) on "Air Field Fire Fighting." See:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context...em=a937fortmyer
So perhaps they were due to participate in the Pentagon exercise, and this is why they were training in how to respond to a plane crash.

4) At Fort Belvoir, an army base just a few miles to the south of the Pentagon, they were also holding a terrorism training exercise the morning of 9/11. See:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context...a830fortbelvoir
Again, this might have been done in conjunction with a terrorism training exercise at the Pentagon.

Sound plausible?

It sure does sound plausible:

Also, another fireengine in route, more emergency specialists nearby, and look how fast all the fire commanders arrived:

Let's write something about this and I'll put it on my blog. It's the only thing that makes sense to explain away all these huge coincidences.

Wow, I hadn't seen that one before.

There are other aspects of what happened at the Pentagon on 9/11 that might be explained by training exercises. For example, we know that the massive Stratcom exercise Global Guardian was "in full swing" at the time of the 9/11 attacks. See:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity....1521846767-1796

According to a March/April 2001 article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, "Tomahawk [cruise missile] operations are included in Strategic Command's (Stratcom) annual Global Guardian nuclear exercises." See:
http://www.thebulletin.org/article_nn.php?art_ofn=ma01norris

So, if the Pentagon was hit by a missile, perhaps this was achieved by making a missile attack that was part of Global Guardian "go live."

Also, there is good evidence that the massive NORAD exercise Amalgam Warrior was taking place on 9/11. See:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity....1521846767-1843

This exercise includes "counter cruise missile operations." See:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops...gam-warrior.htm

So again the possibility arises of a missile in the exercise going "live."

I'd think a training exercise at the Pentagon on 9/11 could have provided cover for all sorts of fabrication of evidence of a 757 hitting the building. For example, presumably the light poles in the path of the supposed 757 would need to have been knocked over using some kind of small explosive at the base of the pole. But if any rogue employee got caught positioning these explosives, they could have simply claimed they were going to knock over the light poles for the training exercise, to make it more realistic.

Also, fake "eyewitnesses" who could lie to the press about what hit the Pentagon could have been pre-positioned under the cover of the training exercise: The 9/11 planners could perhaps have brought these individuals to the road outside the Pentagon under the pretext that they were going to act the parts of casualties or distressed members of the public during the training exercise. I'm just speculating, of course, but it certainly seems a possibility.

if the "plane" was going around 400 mph...how fast do you think the lightpole was traveling?

if that passanger seat didnt fly out the back window, somethings wrong..

...
Another car stopped and the driver helped move the heavy pole off Lloyd’s car. As they were moving the pole, they heard a big boom and turned to see an explosion. The light pole fell on Lloyd and he struggled to get up from underneath, wondering what had happened.
...

What is the weight of a pole like this ?

But it seems to me that no pole have hit Lloyds car... if so, where is the damage ?

It is maybe possible to see something on the hood ... but it is no damage after a pole hit.

And I dont understand why "The light pole fell on Lloyd"

Strange story. (to me)

call the # on the taxi and talk to loyd!

Well, this is his story. He say in another interview that just a pice of the pole hit the window... but he also say that the pole hit the car.

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