Controversial Holocaust Documentary, by David Cole

Signed.

Check out germarrudolf.com. German PhD Chemist who was called before court as an expert, but the jury didn't like his findings - so they jailed him!

Excellent find, Bruce!

This case proves that written law is worthless, when it comes to thought crimes against the powers to be.

But don't sit back and relax, US-citizens!
You might think “…but denying The Holocaust is perfectly legal over here!”

Rudolf Germar thought so too…


In 2004, the U.S. Immigration & Naturalization Services (INS) rejected Rudolf's application for political asylum. They ordered him to be deported in handcuffs, banned for life, with no possible remedy. Not even his marriage to a U.S. citizen with a child expected are considered.

In Germany it's forbidden to deny the holocaust. You'll be jailed if you say "Auschwitz has never happened".

Nothing gets me more mad than those that maintain the holohoax happend,its totaly absurd,its just a matter of doing the math to reveal this fact.

It angers me cause the german people(my people) have been dragged thru the mud for far too long,and if the jews are to blame then so be it but being arrested and labled a hater for even questioning anything of jew origin is a good guide as to who runs this infested planet!

I just keep in mind that their biggest downfall is greed and the idea that they are unstoppable,this is what will trip them up eventualy.



To see the truth is not enough,
To fight for it is not enough,
To be prepared to die for it is!

this s*it is so distracting....

a new 9/11 investigation! *raises fist*

This post has been edited by THE DECIDER on Sep 24 2006, 10:57 AM

Agreed!

Signed.

First thing to fight for is a new 911 investigation!


Unfortunately for the time being it does not look like there is a new 911 investigation forthcoming.

And in Germany and Austria they will continue to arrest everybody who is caught stirring up this distracting sh*t, as you prefer to call it, Decider...

So while fighting for a new 911 investigation, has anyone else bothered to investigate, who actually is preventing a new 911 investigation...

Just curious
z.

of course not.

'just give your faith, dollars and sense to alex jones'

'he's so awesome, laughing out loud, rolling on the floor..'

'i love my alex'


little girls.

little sheep.

... I stmubled across this here recently. As a polish man living in germany, I am shocked. And disgusted.

Yes, there is law here that prevents people from spreading the "Holocaust Lie". No, it's not because germans hate the truth. God knows the germans of present days still have to pay for what their ancestors - that's correct, ancestors, because most of the people who really had anything to do with the WWII are by now either dead or too old to really matter - did. There are people all over the world who are ready to think that every german citizen is a damn nazi, that they hate the jews and homos and everyone who's name is not Schmidt. And it doesn't matter that literally every time someone f*cks up and starts a war, or a civil war, or a little revolution - hell, even when just the weather goes on a rampage - , the germans are in the front row with money, helpers, supplies, and moral support for the victims.

So, the germans have that national heirloom, that national shame that, objectively speaking, gives them just disadvantages. They have to pay money to Holocaust victims, they try to support everyone else to make up for sins of the past ( that they didn't even commit - their parents and grandparents did! ), and still are being called nazis and hitlerists. So WHAT, I ask You, WHAT the hell would be the point to "forbid investigation" in fear of someone "uncovering the facts" that would lift that blame from the german nation? Does that really make any sense? No? Thought so.

Want to know why it's dangerous to deny The Holocaust? Because, as f*cked up as it is, there are still people around who think the nazis were all cool and stuff. Intolerant people who are too lazy, or too stupid, or just generally too much of a loser to find themselves a decent job and get a grip on their life - so they blame it all on the damn Auslaenders who steal their jobs. Or Elitist who can't stand the fact that Ali Muhhamed can have a better education, better job, and a better life than themselves. Or just people who were brought up that way and don't know better. Some of them start a political career - those are called Neo-Nazis. Those people go around saying "The Holocaust was overblown - true, people died, but not a few millions, just a few thousands. And it was their fault, anyway." People teaching their own version of History to kids, who think that nazi music is cool and hating the turks is cool, maybe because some immigrants stole their girlriends because they couldn't stand being with a little hateful neo-nazi dick. Those people start off with aking the importance and meaning from remembering war artrocities, and end up with spreading the belief that jews, immigrants, and homosexuals are lower-class-people. Those people even pursuit a political career, claiming germany is more friendly to immigrants than to german people ( which is a load of bullshit, by the way ). And we all know the NSDAP was a legitimately ellected government. THAT's why I feel it's necessary to remember what people who thought exactly as the neonazis did. And they did do it - those are historical facts. And if that doesn't convince people - well, my granddad and his father were both in a Concentration Camp. My granddad survived barely; his father died out of exhaustion and mistreatment.

To many people here, those are not statistics. There are a lot of families whose relatives were victims back then. And if I can't trust my own parents on that, whom can I trust, then?

It's the same as if an american would say. "Oh, the indians. Yeah, we killed some of those, but hey, everyone makes mistakes, right? And we didn't quite wipe them out, oh noes! We just killed a few, no hard feelings, eh?" Or, perhaps, if they just started to deny slavery ever happened. Or mistreatment of black people in the 60ies and before.
But wait, I said it's the same. Well, it's not. For all I care, You can belive what You like. But it would be the same if You said:"The blacks never suffered persecution, Ku-Klux-Clan was a hoax. So there's no reason we can't think of them as lesser people".
THAT, my poor, ignorant people, is why it's a crime to deny The Holocaust. It is our duty to remember, and not to let other people repeat the artrocities of our ancestors. And misinformation is the first step to that repetition.

~Sylvine

This post has been edited by Sylvine on Oct 1 2006, 05:48 PM

the term 'the holocaust' didn't even exist until the 1970's.

why is the holocaust of hitler more special than the holocaust by stalin.

or the holocaust of native americans, or japanese, or cambodians....

why is it THE holocaust?

and why is lying considered alright?

6 million jews did not die in ww2.

yet it is still said as fact that 6 million jews died in ww2.

the museums say it, the encyclopedia says it,

and the recipient of the german checks say it.

you being german should know very well,
that hitler was much more than just about 'killing the jews'
he wanted europe, he wanted the world..

experiments in 'the superman', pure race,
experiments in mind control, torture, fluoride,
prisoners used for cheap labour..

the destruction of european monarchies..

it is much more than an agenda to kill jewish people.

and i'll take torah-believing rabbis words for it..

the jewish leadership was killed and taken over by the zionists.

from herzl's diary:

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . .
this will assist in realization of our plans. . . I have an excellent idea. . .
I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .
The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”.

Whoever said The Holocaust was about Jews only? As I stated before, not only Jewish people, but also polish people, gypsies, homosexuals, jehova's witnesses, russian captives and basically any and every opponent of the nazi regime was being delivered on the fastest way into the KZs.

The german holocaust is being capitalized, because it was the biggest up to date - extermination of social and ethnical minorities not for territorial gain or political reasons ( like the former was the case for the native americans, for example, and the latter for,oh, countless other persecutions ), but because it was an Ideal. Minorities being exterminated to "purify" the world, to estabilish the superior race. Yes, I am perfectly aware that Hitler wanted more than "just" to kill jewish People. That's the problem - they killed so many people just as a "chore", because it had to be done for some sick idea of a brave, new, german world.

You say that the number of 6 millions is not accurate? What are Your sources? Serious investigations give a minimum number of app. 5,29 million exterminated Jews during The Holocaust. German investigations. If anything, You could expect there were more, not less, jewish people killed. If there is a discrepancy between the numbers and the actuall killings, it just means we don't have info that accurate. We still can't prove some of the principles of chemistry and physics, either, but we take them for granted. Those things are called estabilished facts. You can't fight against estabilished facts; they're everywhere. You'll have better luck trying to run through a wall.

And even if it was not 5, 29 Millions, but 4 Millions, or even 2 Millions, does it matter? 2 Million people. Two damn million. That's, like, 2 000 000. Do You even know that many People? Probably not. So imagine Yourself losing all Your friends, and those friends losing all their friends, and THOSE friends losing all THEIR friends, adn repeat that two more times, and maybe You'll get roughly the number of people who died. All of them human beings, with families, and friends, and loved ones, and possibly children - or they could even have been children themselves. Two million human lives, not just a damn statistic. I really can't stress it often enough. TWO. MILLION. That's still a lot - and historical fact is that there were at least 5 Million, and probably more.

Or is 2 million still too many for You? maybe "just" one? That's still a hellouva lot people. No? "only" 500 thousand? But that would be just jews, then, and what about the homos, the jehova's whitnesses, and political captives? Still adds up. Even less? 200 thousand? Oh, now You'd be talking like a neo nazi. 'Cause that's what they're saying. "200 thousand, big deal. Isn't worth all the hype".

That... quote from Your post, wherever it was from, would only strenghthen my case. If anything, it would prove that The Holocaust did happen, and that it was fierce.

So in conclusion, what is it You have a problem with? The term "The Holocaust"? Okay, don't use it, as long as You aknowledged what happened.
That people tend to think of the jews only? Correct them every time; add the homos, the physically disabled, and whatnot to the list.
That there is a faint possibility that the numbers were slightly smaller than those we learned? What does it matter if there were 4 mio people murdered or 5 mio people? I mean, in terms of the artrocity? It was a tragedy either way, and is not to be forgotten.
What is it, exactly, that bothers You, then? Because what bothers me is people who use the term "Holohoax", and tend to act as if it wasn't that big of a deal. It was freaking mass murder. It was a great crime on humanity, and I will stand up to defending the memory of that artrocity every time I can, because if we forget, we're bound to repeat it. And people who want to forget it are most probably people who want to repeat it, too.

~Sylv

it does matter.

history, like science needs to be accurate.

i can acknowledge 'hate crime' being 'thought crime'

i can acknowledge 'political correctness' being 'newspeak'

i can acknowledge 'big brother' being born in 1948.

i can't acknowledge lies as history.

sources all over the place.

from
here...

The present Jewish curator of Auschwitz,
Franciszek Piper,
has admitted publicly that the number of Jews
supposedly killed at Auschwitz, was highly inflated.
Since this revelation appeared in his book,
the plaque at Auschwitz has been changed,
DECREASING BY ALMOST 3 MILLION,
the number of Jews supposedly killed
at Auschwitz during World War II.

This Truth,
coming from the Auschwitz Camp curator himself,
is reaching the general population
causing increasing investigation
into these crucial events.

This decrease of almost 3 million,
straight from the mouth of the Auschwitz Camp Curator,
should reduce by HALF,
the total of 6 million supposedly killed in the Holocaust.

We should no longer hear about the 6 million.
If any number is used by the Jews, it should be 3 million.
But, no, their figures never change!
6 million is still the number trumpeted around the world!

article and interview with piper - here


you have fake evidence of the holocaust,

unreliable testimony, forged photography..


historians fill in blanks, and they get arrested for it?


if it doesn't come from the ministry of truth, then it's ungood?

This post has been edited by PeaceLoveTruth on Oct 2 2006, 01:22 AM

Given the obvious propaganda lies
that are continually coming to light,
like Saddam's WMDs,
it's reasonable to ponder how many lies from decades past
have become accepted as undeniable truth.

Think about it.
Before the Digital Information Age we now live in,
most people could not carefully examine government propaganda.
During and after WWII,
people did not question what our government told us
in the newspapers and newsreels.

The Holocaust.
How much of it is true?
Just because you've been taught to believe something since childhood,
does that make it true?

Team of scientists examine Treblinka:
CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO(8.38MB)

Even NAZI camp survivors
have said that history was distorted.

They were THERE.
Yet we still parrot the history books.



Sunday, December 18, 2005


I just heard a comment
by Chris Matthews on Channel 4
that "There's some guy [in Iran] with a name you can't pronounce
claiming there was no WWII and the Holocaust never happened."
If you paid attention to the recent news reports,
you'd know that "that guy"
(BTW, he's the president of Iran)
did NOT claim there was no WWII,
but, rather, the Holocaust was a hoax
to have an excuse to create the state of Israel.
(Israel posseses weapons of mass destruction,
like nuclear missiles.)

Accusing the guy of claiming that WWII never happened was meant to portray him as a "nutjob" and an idiot.
That's a classic propaganda technique. And it works.


Anytime someone questions the severity
or even whether the Holocaust happened,
they are immediately attacked with insults and accusations
of Anti-Semitism or even insanity.

I don't know WHAT to think about the Holocaust.
I've seen Websites that illustrate [alleged] "props"
used to make fake films of atrocities,
like a single train car set on a short length of track
that became the train in a film that carried Jews to their deaths.
I've also seen "alternative" evidence,
such as photos from certain "Concentration Camps"
that show that they were actually prisons
holding convicted criminals.

Play "Devil's Advocate" for a moment:
What IF it was a hoax after all?
The US would put the US firebase (Israel)
in the Middle East to gain control
and the people would be hoodwinked
with sloppy propaganda and repeated lies.
Anyone who questioned the Holocaust
would be viciously attacked with accusations
of lunacy and racism.
Sort of what's been happening NOW
with all the "Conspiracy Nuts" like me.
Years ago I said
there are no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
I was attacked as a "nutjob" and traitor.
Guess what?
There AIN'T no WMD,
never were.
Howya like that?

I am NOT anti-Semitic.

It seems that the Rothschild banking families ARE, though
Read on.


The Rothschilds seem to have been
behind modern Zionism from the beginning.
Zionism thrives on Anti-Semitism
and the the Zionists have promoted Anti-Semitism
since before WWII.
Don't believe ME; I'm a Gentile.
Would you believe it if you heard it from JEWISH writers?
Jews against Zionism


But if there were conspiracies involving Jews in WWII,
they were small in number
and did NOT involve the majority of the world's Jews,
just as the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant monsters
who rule America today
do not represent the majority of Christians,
most of whom are "out of the loop."

The Rothschild banking family's original name was Bauer.
They were German Jews
and as Jews were forbidden from owning land
by the ruling Christian majority of previous centuries.
They were made, not born, monsters.
All because the only wealth they could own
was gold instead of land.
The Rothschilds became monsters
who now own most of the world.
This is not an exaggeration.
They control the FED.
Our Federal Reserve Bank is a PRIVATELY OWNED corporation.

The Rothschilds betrayed the principles of the Torah
and became amoral financial predators.
They gave birth to the "Jewish Conspiracy"
touted by Neo-Nazis and other shmucks
who are too ignorant to realize or learn
that only a small number of Jews
(Rothschilds and "associates")
actually wield this power,
just as only a small number of Italians are in the Mafia.

Capice?


Before I get into the "Hard Core" stuff,
here are very reasoned and reasonable reports
from Eric Hufschmid, author of "Painful Questions."

What is Zionism?

Conspiracies

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A Rant

This post has been edited by PeaceLoveTruth on Oct 2 2006, 01:46 AM