Hani Hanjour Was NOT on the Dulles Video, Who was Mosear Caned?
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Posted: May 24 2006, 09:04 PM


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THIS:

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...is supposed to be Hani Hanjour, supposed pilot of Flight 77.

Does that look like thinly built Hani Hanjour? With the long face and the high hairline?

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Keep in mind, the Dulles security video was released *3 years AFTER* 9/11. And DOES NOT have a TIME/DATE STAMP. Making it useless and inadmissable in court.

Wikipedia:

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There is a controversy over whether or not the security tapes indeed show him,  since the man claimed to be him seems significantly heavier than Hanjour,  has kept his beard (Which the hijackers all reportedly shaved off the night before),  and has a different style of hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_Hanjour



And Sept 14th, a "Mosear Caned" was listed , INSTEAD OF Hani Hanjour;

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/14/bn.01.html
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The hairline and face girth are VERY noticeable. Busted.

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Excellent catch!!
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Nice find Merc!
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wow, lol

one geneticaly thin man, one mcdonalds specialist, that is a good one man

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That photo of Wael Al Shehri claims to be from an ATM machine. Well, one question, how can that be an ATM photograph? When was the last time you had a mug shot taken by the ATM?

The wikipedia sources will cause more confusion. Wikipedia totally debunks the claims of the BBC that the 5-7 hijackers were alive. Wikipedia moreover states that the statements and information provided by BBC were incorrect regarding the profiles of the 7 alleged who were alive after 9/11.
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QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 24 2006, 04:24 PM)
That photo of Wael Al Shehri claims to be from an ATM machine. Well, one question, how can that be an ATM photograph? When was the last time you had a mug shot taken by the ATM?

The wikipedia sources will cause more confusion. Wikipedia totally debunks the claims of the BBC that the 5-7 hijackers were alive. Wikipedia moreover states that the statements and information provided by BBC were incorrect regarding the profiles of the 7 alleged who were alive after 9/11.

Psst.....You get photographed every time you use an ATM. whistlingb.gif

But great find none the less. Of course skeptics will argue.......I mean it could be a pasty white Irish woman in the photo and the skeptics would argue.
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QUOTE (Merc the Jerk @ May 24 2006, 02:04 PM)
THIS:

user posted image


user posted image

...is supposed to be Hani Hanjour, supposed pilot of Flight 77.

Does that look like thinly built Hani Hanjour? With the long face and the high hairline?

user posted image

user posted image


Keep in mind, the Dulles security video was released *3 years AFTER* 9/11. And DOES NOT have a TIME/DATE STAMP. Making it useless and inadmissable in court.

Wikipedia:

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There is a controversy over whether or not the security tapes indeed show him,   since the man claimed to be him seems significantly heavier than Hanjour,   has kept his beard (Which the hijackers all reportedly shaved off the night before),   and has a different style of hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_Hanjour



And Sept 14th, a "Mosear Caned" was listed , INSTEAD OF Hani Hanjour;

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/14/bn.01.html

Merc good pics never understood how no Arabs on Flight lists and No Arabs through the Port cameras...yet OBL-19 did it


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QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 24 2006, 11:24 PM)

The wikipedia sources will cause more confusion.  Wikipedia totally debunks the claims of the BBC that the 5-7 hijackers were alive.  Wikipedia moreover states that the statements and information provided by BBC were incorrect regarding the profiles of the 7 alleged who were alive after 9/11.



You're right to an extent. Actually, there is WAY more to the hijackers than that. Check this out...


http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb...1840&highlight=
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Well it's obviously just from a different angle.....that's why he looks so different.

110% the same man.

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Nice find, merc. thumbsup.gif
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I started to roll my eyes for a sec, Mick. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Merc the Jerk @ May 24 2006, 09:04 PM)
THIS:

user posted image


user posted image

...is supposed to be Hani Hanjour, supposed pilot of Flight 77.

Does that look like thinly built Hani Hanjour? With the long face and the high hairline?

user posted image

user posted image


Keep in mind, the Dulles security video was released *3 years AFTER* 9/11. And DOES NOT have a TIME/DATE STAMP. Making it useless and inadmissable in court.

Wikipedia:

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There is a controversy over whether or not the security tapes indeed show him,   since the man claimed to be him seems significantly heavier than Hanjour,   has kept his beard (Which the hijackers all reportedly shaved off the night before),   and has a different style of hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hani_Hanjour



And Sept 14th, a "Mosear Caned" was listed , INSTEAD OF Hani Hanjour;

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/14/bn.01.html

we have those bastards,

we can prove eveything they put out is a lie...

this krapp makes me sick!!
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can you not quote everything when its not necesarry? thanks
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QUOTE (Merc the Jerk @ May 25 2006, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 24 2006, 11:24 PM)

The wikipedia sources will cause more confusion.  Wikipedia totally debunks the claims of the BBC that the 5-7 hijackers were alive.  Wikipedia moreover states that the statements and information provided by BBC were incorrect regarding the profiles of the 7 alleged who were alive after 9/11.



You're right to an extent. Actually, there is WAY more to the hijackers than that. Check this out...


http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb...1840&highlight=

I have already seen that.

My point is that the case and the assumption that the supposed 5-7 hijackers being alive is suspect due to the fabrications of BBC. They were clearly ignorant of 'Arabic nomenclature and jumped the gun I believe. Hence, that is why they assumed those hijackers were alive. I hope the LC makers next time remove these assumptions out of their next video as it holds no credibility.

This post has been edited by GuilelessGuy on May 27 2006, 02:40 PM
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Looks like him to me...
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Just without the sombrero
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Great find Merc! As everyone can see they're clearly different people.

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QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 27 2006, 08:39 AM)


My point is that the case and the assumption that the supposed 5-7 hijackers being alive is suspect due to the fabrications of BBC. They were clearly ignorant of 'Arabic nomenclature and jumped the gun I believe. Hence, that is why they assumed those hijackers were alive. I hope the LC makers next time remove these assumptions out of their next video as it holds no credibility.

Let's see....

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The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists. One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks.


Saeed Al-Ghamdi
Abdulaziz Al-Omari
Salem Al-Hamzi
Ahmed Al-Nami

There be four dudes...
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QUOTE (free_me @ May 27 2006, 06:13 PM)
QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 27 2006, 08:39 AM)


My point is that the case and the assumption that the supposed 5-7 hijackers being alive is suspect due to the fabrications of BBC.  They were clearly ignorant of 'Arabic nomenclature and jumped the gun I believe.  Hence, that is why they assumed those hijackers were alive.  I hope the LC makers next time remove these assumptions out of their next video as it holds no credibility.

Let's see....

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The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists. One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks.


Saeed Al-Ghamdi
Abdulaziz Al-Omari
Salem Al-Hamzi
Ahmed Al-Nami

There be four dudes...

Again you have to take into account the logistics and politics behind this. You take things as face value.

The reason why those people came forward and stated to the Saudia Embassy that they were not the hijackers is not only because they had similar names, but Saudia and the GID wanted to save its face from the public eye. Those al-Omari and Ahmed al-Nami were different people than those mentioned in the Telegraph. Do you know how many Saudia people have 'Abdul Aziz Al Omari or Ahmed al-Nami as their names? Many, due to the last name signifying the tribe, subtribe, place of birth, etc...

Since Wikipedia was the source used in this thread, take a look at this:

Wail al Shehri:

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Wail and Waleed were both reported to have been found alive and well, by the BBC later in 2001. They were reportedly the sons of a Saudi diplomat stationed in Bombay. Wail claims he did attend Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Delray Beach, Florida - but was the victim of mistaken identity, since he used that training to secure his current position with a Moroccan airline company. Saudi Arabia has confirmed his story, and suggested he was the victim of identity theft. Much of the BBC information regarding "alive" hijackers was incorrect, according to the same sources used by BBC. These include various sources from Saudi Arabia.

However, the al-Shehri's father says he hadn't heard from his sons in ten months prior to September 2001.[9] An ABC News story in March 2002 repeated this, and during a report entitled "A Saudi Apology" for Dateline NBC on Aug 25 2002, NBC's reporter John Hockenberry traveled to 'Asir, where he interviewed the third brother Salah who agreed that his two brothers were dead and claimed they had been "brainwashed".


Similar mistakes on Waleed al Shehri:

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Furthermore another article explains that the pilot who lives in Casablanca was named Walid al-Shri (not Waleed M. al-Shehri) and that much of the BBC information regarding "alive" hijackers was incorrect according to the same sources used by BBC.[8]


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QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 27 2006, 01:36 PM)

The reason why those people came forward and stated to the Saudia Embassy that they were not the hijackers is not only because they had similar names, but Saudia and the GID wanted to save its face from the public eye. Those al-Omari and Ahmed al-Nami were different people than those mentioned in the Telegraph. Do you know how many Saudia people have 'Abdul Aziz Al Omari or Ahmed al-Nami as their names? Many, due to the last name signifying the tribe, subtribe, place of birth, etc...

The FBI has posted pictures and descriptons of 19 hijackers that they themselves have admitted may not be accurate. WTF?! How in the hell are we supposed to even be sure that there were any hijackers when the details of who they are is in doubt? Seriously.

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More disturbing is that the FBI accidentally may have fused two names to create one identity, because another man, Abdul Rahman al-Omari, who has a different birth date, is the person pictured by the FBI, but he still is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines. After his photograph was released, he walked into the U.S. Embassy in Jedda and demanded to know why he was being reported as a dead hijacker.


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Wail al-Shehri was identified as one of the suspected hijackers on American Flight 11. He reportedly was in control of the plane when it crashed. Another Saudi man who is a pilot has the same name, and his father is a Saudi diplomat in Bombay. His picture was displayed by the FBI as the "terrorist" al-Shehri who crashed the plane. The al-Shehri who is alive had resided in Daytona Beach, Fla., where he enrolled in flight training at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. He currently works for a Moroccan airline. Last year the Associated Press reported that al-Shehri had spoken to the U.S. Embassy in Morocco. His photograph having been released and repeatedly shown around the world is evidence the man in the FBI photograph still is alive, the Saudi Embassy explains.


Pictures wrong, details wrong... hmmm, musta been al-CIAda. whistlingb.gif

Well we know there were 19 hijackers, and that they were al-qaeda, and here's the info on them. Yeah, the info isn't accurate, but here it is, anyway. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 27 2006, 02:39 PM)
QUOTE (Merc the Jerk @ May 25 2006, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 24 2006, 11:24 PM)

The wikipedia sources will cause more confusion.  Wikipedia totally debunks the claims of the BBC that the 5-7 hijackers were alive.  Wikipedia moreover states that the statements and information provided by BBC were incorrect regarding the profiles of the 7 alleged who were alive after 9/11.



You're right to an extent. Actually, there is WAY more to the hijackers than that. Check this out...


http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb...1840&highlight=

I have already seen that.

My point is that the case and the assumption that the supposed 5-7 hijackers being alive is suspect due to the fabrications of BBC. They were clearly ignorant of 'Arabic nomenclature and jumped the gun I believe. Hence, that is why they assumed those hijackers were alive. I hope the LC makers next time remove these assumptions out of their next video as it holds no credibility.

yeah I just noticed you were an original poster from there.

My bad.

You are right though. But there are still questions because there is NO definitive answer. There is a lot of confusion and ambiguity. For instance...


QUOTE ("Merc Mercy")
From the new Moussaoui evidence site:

"Salem Alhazmi, the 9/11 terrorist":

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http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/index.php?sortby=datedesc

Meanwhile....

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"This man, named Salem al-Hazmi, is alive, and has spoken to the press since the September 11 attacks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_al-Hazmi
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I have a simple question I think...


Why don't the ones that are claimed to be alive, come forward in a video interview ? AND why hasn't anyone in the 911 truth community tried to contact them or get that interview. All I've seen is names on paper, but I haven't seen any actual video of these people that are "alive" as claimed, come forward.

Doesn't this seem like a simple solution to the questions and wouldn't these people want to claim their innocence ? I'm confused about this whole thing.
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QUOTE (Logic @ Jun 12 2006, 10:22 AM)
I have a simple question I think...


Why don't the ones that are claimed to be alive, come forward in a video interview ? AND why hasn't anyone in the 911 truth community tried to contact them or get that interview. All I've seen is names on paper, but I haven't seen any actual video of these people that are "alive" as claimed, come forward.

Doesn't this seem like a simple solution to the questions and wouldn't these people want to claim their innocence ? I'm confused about this whole thing.

That's because they were not alive.

Those are mistaken/stolen id's.
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QUOTE (Merc the Jerk @ May 24 2006, 09:04 PM)


And Sept 14th, a "Mosear Caned" was listed , INSTEAD OF Hani Hanjour;

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/14/bn.01.html

"Mosear Caned" was a phonetic transcription of a speech from a CNN agent, I believe.

Therefore it's hard to pin down exactly what this name is -- but we can see that the name, in whatever form, fell off the radar big time.

Mosear Caned = ???

Musi Al-Kaned?

Mosiah Arkaned?

Mussea al-Khamed?

just mus-ing on what the name might have been -- we have no audio -- just the transcript.

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QUOTE (GuilelessGuy @ May 24 2006, 11:24 PM)
The wikipedia sources will cause more confusion. Wikipedia totally debunks the claims of the BBC that the 5-7 hijackers were alive. Wikipedia moreover states that the statements and information provided by BBC were incorrect regarding the profiles of the 7 alleged who were alive after 9/11.

There's a reason Wikipedia is so messed up these days......

The Guardian

Wikipedia fights off cyber vandals

Protected articles

Cannot be edited
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2004 United States voting controversies, Ohio

George W Bush

Among others

Semi-protected articles

Users can edit only if they have been registered with the site for at least four days:

Tony Blair

11 September, 2001

Among others.


So the information is now being controlled there.

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searching Mosear Caned on wikipedia automatically redirects you to Hani Hanjour's page hmm.gif
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More info on Hani Hanjour (I read this awhile back from Thompson's timeline). It shows his so called religious zeal while in fact shows more of his incompetency:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...ne&startpos=200

An American Caucasian Muslim named Aukai Collins later says he reports to the FBI on hijacker Hani Hanjour for six months this year. [Associated Press, 5/24/2002] The FBI later acknowledges they paid Collins to monitor the Islamic and Arab communities in Phoenix between 1996 and 1999. He also was an informant overseas and once had an invitation to meet bin Laden (see Mid-1998). [Associated Press, 5/24/2002; ABC News, 5/23/2002] Collins claims that he is a casual acquaintance of Hanjour while Hanjour is taking flying lessons. [Associated Press, 5/24/2002] Collins sees nothing suspicious about Hanjour as an individual, but he tells the FBI about him because Hanjour appears to be part of a larger, organized group of Arabs taking flying lessons. [The Big Story with John Gibson, 5/24/2002] He says the FBI “knew everything about the guy,” including his exact address, phone number, and even what car he drove. The FBI denies Collins told them anything about Hanjour, and denies knowing about Hanjour before 9/11. [ABC News, 5/23/2002] Collins later calls Hanjour a “hanky panky” hijacker: “He wasn’t even moderately religious, let alone fanatically religious. And I knew for a fact that he wasn’t part of al-Qaeda or any other Islamic organization; he couldn’t even spell jihad in Arabic.” [Collins, 2003, pp. 248] Collins tells the New York Times that he worked with FBI agent Ken Williams, who will write a July 2001 memo expressing concerns about radical militants attending Arizona flight schools (see July 10, 2001). He says that he quarrels with Williams and quits helping him. It is unknown if Williams ever learns about Hanjour before 9/11. [New York Times, 5/24/2002] Collins closely matches the description of the informant who first alerted Williams to Zacaria Soubra, a flight student who will be the main focus of Williams’ memo (see April 2000). If this is so, it bolsters Collins’ claims that he knew Hanjour, because many of Soubra’s friends, including his roommate (and al-Qaeda operative) Ghassan al-Sharbi do know Hanjour (see July 10, 2001). After 9/11, Collins will claim that based on his experience with the FBI and CIA, he is 100 percent sure that some people in those agencies knew about the 9/11 attack in advance and let it happen. “Just think about it—how could a group of people plan such a big operation full of so many logistics and probably countless e-mails, encrypted or not, and phone calls and messengers? And you’re telling me that, through all of that, that the CIA never caught wind of it?” [Salon, 10/17/2002]

Edit: I will spell Jihad in `Arabic, it so simple: Jeem, Ha, Alif, Daal, transliterated from right to left: ﺩﺎﻬﺠ

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as in some other thread I would like to throw in a thought:

the best false "evidence" is the one, where some percentage is true. now we all know of some people that seem to be missing after 9-11. but some "terrorists", even if the government issues photos of them seem to be without a family, without anybody knowing them, without work-mates etc. what is presented are sometimes left behind books, cars, etc. but allways, the government comes up with a 1A-picture. still, no interviews are known with people knowing them. heardly anybody has a life before 9-11.

in some cases, only neighbors have seen them, or strippers etc. ;-)

the question I keep on asking myself is: why was there no "terrorist" on the passenger-list? not even under a fals name?
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