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What If It Wasn't A C-130, You ever heard of a DC-130E?

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Posted: May 19 2006, 07:25 PM

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Now a "C-130" was reportedly seen with the craft that hit the Pentagon. And it veered away suppoedly after it had made impact. I don't yet how this would fit into the big picture of things other than if there were transponder swaps in mid air this may come into play near the Pentagon.

So I was just checking out the C-130 and wondering if they could be used to drop debris, could it be used to drop anything...like oh say a drone?

Low and Behold I found something very interesting that I personally had never seen proposed anywhere.

Introducing the DC-130.

The 'D' stands for drone I would assume.

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Drone Control: GC-130A/DC-130A, DC-130E, & DC-130H

http://www.ammsalumni.org/html/100th_amms_...onthan_afb.html

All kinds of assorted goodies you can attach but there were some I found very interesting.

DC-130E
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And the 100th airborne drones that attach to the DC-130E:

AQM-34M
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AQM-34L

AQM-34Q

The AQM-91A has a a 52 foot wingspan, it was airlaunch (DC-130E) only, it was tested, cancelled and never used overseas:
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Here's a DC-130A:

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Couldn't find the DC-130H:

But here's a patch of it...

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9:37 a.m.: Witnesses See Military Cargo Plane Near Flight 77; Pilot Implies He�s Far Away

A C-130 transport plane that has been sent to follow Flight 77 is trailing only a short distance behind the plane as it crashes. This curious C-130, originally bound for Minnesota, is the same C-130 that will be 17 miles from Flight 93 when it later crashes into the Pennsylvania countryside. [Star-Tribune (Minneapolis), 10/11/2002; Pittsburgh Channel, 10/15/2001] A number of people see this plane fly remarkably close to Flight 77:

-Kelly Knowles says that seconds after seeing Flight 77 pass, she sees a �second plane that seemed to be chasing the first [pass] over at a slightly different angle.� [Daily Press (Newport News), 10/15/2001]

-Keith Wheelhouse says the second plane was a C-130; two other witnesses aren�t certain. [Daily Press (Newport News), 10/15/2001] Wheelhouse �believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar, while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.�

-As Flight 77 descends toward the Pentagon, the second plane veers off west. [Daily Press (Newport News), 10/14/2001]

-USA Today reporter Vin Narayanan, who saw the Pentagon explosion, says, �I hopped out of my car after the jet exploded, nearly oblivious to a second jet hovering in the skies.� [USA Today, 10/17/2001](It wasn't a "jet", it had props)

-USA Today Editor Joel Sucherman sees a second plane but gives few details. [eWeek, 10/13/2001] Brian Kennedy, press secretary for a congressman, and others also see a second plane. [Sacramento Bee, 10/15/2001]

-An unnamed worker at Arlington National Cemetery �said a mysterious second plane was circling the area when the first one attacked the Pentagon.� [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 1/20/2002]

-John O�Keefe is driving a car when he sees the Pentagon crash. �The first thing I did was pull over onto the shoulder, and when I got out of the car I saw another plane flying over my head. ... Then the plane�it looked like a C-130 cargo plane�started turning away from the Pentagon, it did a complete turnaround.� [New York Law Journal, 10/12/2001]

-The pilot of the C-130, Lieutenant Colonel Steve O�Brien, is later interviewed, but his account differs from the on-the-ground eyewitnesses. He claims that just before the explosion, �With all of the East Coast haze, I had a hard time picking him out,� implying he is not nearby. He also says that just after the explosion, �I could see the outline of the Pentagon,� again implying he is not nearby. He then asks �the controller whether [I] should set up a low orbit around the building,� but he is told �to get out of the area as quickly as possible.� �I took the plane once through the plume of smoke and thought if this was a terrorist attack, it probably wasn�t a good idea to be flying through that plume.� [Star-Tribune (Minneapolis), 10/11/2002]

So as far as contradictions go...

-We have it "circling the area when the first one attacked the Pentagon".

-We have it "chasing the first [pass] over at a slightly different angle."

-We have it "not nearby" and conflicting with what other witnesses saw

Merc	Posted: May 19 2006, 08:12 PM
Veterano Group: Members Posts: 1,466 Member No.: 1,066 Joined: 6-April 06	These images show a plane. Joe Vialls mistook it for Flt 77 on BBC TV. Others report it as the C-130. This does not appear to be a C-130.

Johnny	Posted: May 19 2006, 10:44 PM
Unregistered	Has anyone ever googled c-130 pentagon? a couple results answer questions. I doubt if they were "paid off" too, as the witnesses inside said they saw a second aircraft. whatever, not like anyone here will believe it anyways.

Russell Pickering	Posted: May 20 2006, 02:05 AM
Veteran Group: Admin Posts: 1,114 Member No.: 1,722 Joined: 3-May 06	I was a C-130 crew chief for almost 6 years in the Air Force and those Vialls photos are not a C-130. There are statements from the C-130 pilot available on the web. Russell

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Posted: May 20 2006, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE (Russell Pickering @ May 20 2006, 02:05 AM)

I was a C-130 crew chief for almost 6 years in the Air Force and those Vialls photos are not a C-130. There are statements from the C-130 pilot available on the web.

Russell

Yes, I know.

But again. There are multiple problems with the C-130's location.

Do you concur Russell?

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Posted: May 21 2006, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE (Johnny @ May 19 2006, 10:44 PM)

Has anyone ever googled c-130 pentagon? a couple results answer questions. I doubt if they were "paid off" too, as the witnesses inside said they saw a second aircraft. whatever, not like anyone here will believe it anyways.

Yeah. And again. Did you scrutinize it?

chewysguitar	Posted: May 21 2006, 03:39 AM
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 548 Member No.: 1,071 Joined: 6-April 06	I think you have a great point Merc. The drone could easily have caused the small hole in the pentagon. And the plane in the sky raises questions as to why was it there in restricted airspace (or was it restricted?), and who's plane was it? And why didn't Norad take it down since they had time after the WTC attacks. This post has been edited by chewysguitar on May 21 2006, 03:39 AM

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Posted: May 22 2006, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE (chewysguitar @ May 21 2006, 03:39 AM)

I think you have a great point Merc. The drone could easily have caused the small hole in the pentagon. And the plane in the sky raises questions as to why was it there in restricted airspace (or was it restricted?), and who's plane was it? And why didn't Norad take it down since they had time after the WTC attacks.

Thanks Chewy.

I think we should acknowledge that the 'C-130' pilots have been identified. But there are still questions regarding their presence and actual location.

The DC-130 is merely a thought. Something I thought should be recorded and scrutinized like anything else.

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Posted: May 22 2006, 06:53 PM

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From Scholars for 9/11 Truth forum:

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(Above: Photo of the C-130 over the Pentagon shortly after the strike.)

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