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| dax702 |
Posted: Feb 25 2006, 07:14 AM
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I don't recall anything being said about what happened to the passengers on the plane that *supposedly* crashed into the pentagon?? anyone?
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| xtratabasco |
Posted: Mar 15 2006, 12:42 AM
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Ok Mr. Single Brain Cell, I'm gonna ask you to put your thinking cap on. Can you do that? So, what happened to the planes and passengers.......where are they....big question.......?? Lets suppose one night you come home from work and park your car in the same driveway you have always done for years. You fall asleep, but hear noises outside where your car is parked, like broken glass and people walking around, but your to lazy to get out of bed. Your dog barks during the night too but your dreaming of your dream girl sucking your sack. You wake up in the morning check your answering machine and its the neighbor. She leaves a message that says she thinks someone may be breaking into your car. You go outside and your car is gone. You see broken glass and a crowbar on the ground. You also see some of your personal items around the ground, like someone has rifled through them and taken the goodies. You pick up your newspaper and see another neighbor that lives down the street jogging by you. She stops, and says she saw some gang bangers driving around in a car that looks just like yours does, she also tells you that your fly is open, and jogs away. Now, brain fart, here is the question. Because you don't know where your car is, does that mean it wasn't stolen? Xtratabasco............ I would tell you to go here http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/pentagon/redflags.html and start over with your 911 education, but after reading your posts it is evident you are a groveling bootlicker who wouldn't care about the truth or evidence if it hit you in the ass. |
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| dax702 |
Posted: Mar 15 2006, 01:09 AM
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Frankly your reply doesn't even deserve the courtesy of a response, but in this case I'll come down to your level - Your attempt an an analogy was quite pathetic. And sir, I have had a car stolen right from my driveway for your information. If you're going to make an analogy to the question I posed, at least make it coherent.
Next, the whole point of the 911 documentaries are to ask questions. I found the evidence in the videos to be compelling, however, there are still more questions and I asked one of them: What happened to the passengers if we are to believe these planes did not crash into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center? Nowhere in my question did I say that the fact I didn't know where the passengers of the planes were led me to believe that that I believed the government's story. You should really tone down on the personal attacks, I'm sorry you're such an insecure person that you have to attack someone you don't even know. The very fact that I watched the video and posted my questions on the forum shows that I do question what was told to us and that I do want to know the truth. And now I pose another question, not to you, but to anyone who can engage me at an intelligent level of conversation. For the people that remember or studied the Watergate scandal, everyone knows that the opposing party was ALL over that exposing it on every front possible until ultimately Nixon was done for. WHY aren't the democrats and bush bashers such as John Kerry and Kennedy on TV promoting the hell out of the 911 Conspiracy videos? If i were Kerry, and believed what I saw in these videos, I would make it my goal to let the entire world know about it....why haven't they? |
| xtratabasco |
Posted: Mar 15 2006, 01:17 AM
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No one except the criminals that did 911 know where the passengers are. Does that satisfy your "need to know." Why don't you spend your efforts on "what we do know" instead of worrying about the details we don't yet. There are over 600 problems with the governments story about 911. Get busy...... |
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| OCMARK |
Posted: Mar 15 2006, 05:29 PM
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Dax The DNC and the RNC are the same family differant but the same...that is why you see bush doing all of this stuff with no oppistion...that is good news for us though we can not count on a Savior to save us from these crooks we will have to do it ourselves and that is what we are in the process of doing... What do you beleive about 9/1? What brought you here to LC Forum and welcome? The "passengers" from #77 are dead for sure how who knows...but dead |
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| dax702 |
Posted: Mar 15 2006, 05:41 PM
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Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Member No.: 307 Joined: 25-February 06 |
I heard something briefly on coast to coast am (art bell's show) recently and went to a website which had a link to the LC2E site and that's how I found it...
The evidence is convincing indeed, it's just so hard to believe that someone didn't speak up that knew...I don't know, it's troubling.. |
| A-Bomb |
Posted: Mar 23 2006, 02:37 AM
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If I posted this in the wrong place I am very sorry, I am new here.
If our conspiracy theory has it that flight 77 never hit the pentagon then how can we explain the missing passengers? Where did they go? Anyone who has a strong idea in a attempt to explain that please post, I would greatly appreciate it THank You. |
| Vitamin J |
Posted: Mar 23 2006, 05:04 AM
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yeah, i've been wondering that too.
was the list made up? or do you think they're suffering the same fate as the passengers of flight 93? |
| JackD |
Posted: Mar 23 2006, 07:35 AM
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http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/passengers.html
y'all got to do your internet homework on flight 77. pilots crew passengers were real. real people. real deaths. all murdered. their remains were identified by navy forensics people. if 77 didnt hit pentagon, it either landed (unknown) or crashed (possibly kent or Oh?) or was shot down. the aircraft and passengers are all MIA --- assumed dead (since they were infact ID'd by forensics) thanks killtown |
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| peteLI |
Posted: Mar 23 2006, 12:22 PM
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they were ID'd by forensics people but it was also the same group who ID'd the people at flight 93, the other plane that has evidence suggesting it did NOT crash where the government told us it did.
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| caitlynlacy |
Posted: Apr 1 2006, 05:03 AM
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I watched Loose Change yesterday for the first time and absolutely loved it. I think the argument about the Pentagon is very compelling, but I have one question- What about all the people claimed to be onboard of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon? I searched for the victims of the Pentagon attack yesterday and found names and pictures. Your argument that a missile was used instead of a passenger plane makes so much sense, but how would you explain that? Were these people's identities fabricated? Where are they if they didn't crash into the Pentagon?
thanks caitlyn (you've probably heard this question before many times, so you could just send me a link or something) |
| JFK |
Posted: Apr 1 2006, 06:38 AM
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There are lots of theories, but no hard facts. Do a little more research into the credentials of the victims ( their job descriptions ) and you will find some odd coincidences.
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| Method |
Posted: Apr 6 2006, 01:43 AM
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I could've used a little more cowbell. ![]() Group: Members Posts: 713 Member No.: 1,012 Joined: 4-April 06 |
I'm very interested in any information regarding these coincidences. If you have some links or know where to start searching could you please post them? Meth |
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| Didga1133 |
Posted: Apr 6 2006, 02:58 AM
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The bodies of the dead at the Pentagon were taken to a close by morgue. From this morgue the bodies were the transferred to a 2nd morgue in (IIRC) Dover. The passengers from the original aircraft could have easily been killed somewhere else (like a military base) then transferred to the 2nd morgue where there would no way to tell that they did not come from the Pentagon.
It is also interesting to note that no families of the 911 victims recieved body parts back for the funerals, instead urns of beach sand were provided from the government. |
| wolfsdinner |
Posted: Apr 8 2006, 12:08 AM
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i think they made the planes hit water somewhere- no one would see it because all the planes were grounded for a while and then they sunk / cleaned up whatever was floating.............
beach sand? confirms my idea now the bodies from the pentagon- they werent at the pentagon. where were they when they were killed- and how were they killed. families got to see the bodies from the pentagon crash??? ><> robin This post has been edited by wolfsdinner on Apr 8 2006, 12:11 AM |
| dennis_in_nh |
Posted: Apr 12 2006, 03:09 PM
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So in order for this theory to be correct, I'm to believe that all of the hundreds of passengers on the four hijacked planes were taken to a location after Sept. 11th and executed, or are still being held?
THis would require dozens if not hundreds of people to be involved. I just can't believe that with the shock of these attacks playing out on TV, government operatives were hard at work killing innocent men, women and children from the planes and disposing of their bodies. I want to know who did these killings or who is still guarding, housing and feeding the passengers? Who planted the bombs in the trade center in the weeks leading up to 9/11 without being caught? It would take dozens of explosives experts to do this. Who dug the fake crash in PA? Who falsified the reports of remains that were recovered by a National Guard morgue unit from the Pentagon? Is the whole unit in on this as well? Not one of these operatives would come forward out of guilt after seeing how terrible things have worked for the Bush Administration since 9/11? This theory give a lot of credit to the same people who have botched everything else they have done since gaining power. |
| FM258 |
Posted: Apr 12 2006, 03:29 PM
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Very few people need to be involved, this is a major sticking point with people. They feel this could only be carried out by hundreds, and Ive seen people say thousands. Nothing could be more exaggerated. This could all be pulled off with numbers in single digits. And as far as guilt goes, you are dealing with people of zero conscience, mass murderers do not feel guilt. They have a plan and they carry it out. You have no understanding of how the military works, the secret operations they are constantly involved in, and the brutal people who run them. Until you can comprehend some of this, you will forever be doubting that this could happen, no matter how much evidence or proof is presented to you. |
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| JackD |
Posted: Apr 12 2006, 03:33 PM
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There may have been many people involved who had no idea HOW their actions were contributing to the whole. Compartmentalization. Many people who 'participated' were in fact likely playing in some of the 5-10 terror drill/ war games happening that day. the pennsylvania exploit was based around a terror drill. ditto pentagon. No one gives great credit to the current admin. But if you have served in the military, or know people who have, you know there are groups of american citizens with unquestioning, absolute loyalty. A few importantly placed moles in the system go a long way. I, too, wonder why no one comes forward -- but in the end, can we deny that WTC7 came down on its own, or that there is no plane at the shanksville hole? the lack of whistleblowers, alas, cannot disprove thise issues. |
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| Dr.Dre'del |
Posted: Apr 13 2006, 05:38 AM
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Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20 Member No.: 1,137 Joined: 9-April 06 |
the skeptics are forgetting something very important...
This operation was not planned in a few weeks or even a few months. The most likely scenario is that this has been in the works for many many years. Consider that the central power structure in the States hasn't changed much at all in 3 decades! Presidents and administrations come and go. While there is a lot of suspicious elements that point to the current administrations, it is quite possible that this was pulled off without Bush't knowledge. Rumsfeld was AT the pentagon that day. I know you could say "Well he trusted that the missle wouldn't stray and wind up in his anus, but gimme a break, would he really come to work that day? I'm confident he would find a good reason to stay home. If the information about the bomb sniffing dogs and unusual security drills in the days prior to the attack at the WTC are true, then a relatively small highly loyal and hand picked unit of covert operatives, say 20 men, is more than enough to get all this done. |
| ablohm2 |
Posted: Aug 2 2006, 10:48 PM
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I went to the Los Gatos alumni website and searched for Todd Beamer and he came up as deceased. With a class year of 1987. When searching Los Gatos Highschool Many articles came up for Mark K Bingham who graduated in 1988 and also died on flight 93. http://alumni.lghs.net/ Then when I did a people search for Todd Beamer it comes up as a graduate from Christan High School In Wheaton, Ill. But when I found Los Gatos ten year renunion page from 1997 it again mentions Todd Beamer (and where they guessed he would be in 10 yrs) http://www.los-gatos.ca.us/los_gatos/assoc...ass_Predictions But he is listed as a 1987 graduate. Wikipedia says that Todd graduated from Los Gatos in 1988. I found this on Todd in Christianity today..."David Kohlmeyer, a friend and teammate through grammar school and high school, said he was glad Beamer was on his team." and 'Steve Clum, who taught Beamer in fifth grade at Wheaton Christian Grammar School, remembered Beamer as a "quiet young man with inner strength."' So it sounds like people know Todd from a grade school and highschool in Ill. Yet it says he also went to high school in Los Gatos. I am wondering when he did that...only for a year? Also on a United Heros 9/11 website it says "At Los Gatos High School in California he had been a standout basketball and baseball player."http://www.unitedheroes.com/Todd-Beamer.html AND after the attacks Los Gatos has newspaper articles on Mark Bingham but never mention their alumni Todd Beamer. Why would they only mention one of them. They would have been in the same graduating class. So did Todd graduate in 1988 in Wheaton or 1987 or 1988 from Los Gatos? The Los Gatos class size for year 1988 is 570. How is a connection between the men never mentioned and why does Los Gatos never publish anything on Todd after 9/11. They were on the same plane and from the same graduating class. Weird I'd say. |
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| JackD |
Posted: Aug 3 2006, 12:22 PM
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wow. your bingham/beamer thing is VERY NEW to me.
please re-post this up in 'investigate 9/11 ' section when you get a chance |
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| ablohm2 |
Posted: Aug 3 2006, 09:29 PM
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You know I watched this movie two days ago and immediated thought of two things where are the passengers and how did a fake Todd phone call to his wife know to say "Lets Roll" so I started searching for Todd trying to find out if he was a real person or what adn tahst when Mark starting showing up so then I relaly got sucking into searching. I post jsut from what I can find so please everyone feel free to show me correct valid info or show me supporting facts that you too find.
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| broodlinger |
Posted: Aug 18 2006, 07:03 AM
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Ocmark, Jfk, and FM258 all unregged...wow. Why do people unreg, why don't they just walk away?
I don't have the clearest mental picure of these people, but I think they were all heavy-hitters. |
| john_s__12 |
Posted: Sep 10 2006, 09:26 PM
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dax, it is amazing that this question hasn't been put in the spotlight before . yes, damn right - what about the passengers ?? The LC pentagon investigation is really focussing on the plain vs missile problem. I think you should re-post your comment under "How to improve LC - the next edition " - J |
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| alexvegas |
Posted: Sep 11 2006, 12:15 PM
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I seem to remember seeing photos of alledged bodies at the pentagon on a debunking site.. any idea where these can be seen or how genuine they are? Also I guess bodies could have been pentagon staff and not passengers.
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| Sanders |
Posted: Sep 11 2006, 12:27 PM
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120 people were killed at the Pentagon that were not passengers from the plane. They were working in the building.
No one knows what happened to the passengers. |
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