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911wasaninsidejob
Posted: Oct 9 2006, 03:28 AM


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I had this image sent to me in a forum one time by someone who supports the official story, it shows a picture taken from NJ after one of the towers collapsed, it seems that for a little while the core was still there standing and then it collapsed...what do you think?

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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 01:00 PM


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Interesting photo. huh.gif
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 01:49 PM


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It really makes me question the CD...
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 01:51 PM


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QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 09:49 AM)
It really makes me question the CD...

Makes you question what CD? Loose Change? huh.gif
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 01:53 PM


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No no...controlled demolition.
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 02:16 PM


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QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 09:53 AM)
No no...controlled demolition.

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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 03:23 PM


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It can also support it, after all if the core was still standing, why didn't it just stay up?
It's not like it had much weight to bear any more, I mean if it crumbled because of it's own weight (the core), that must mean the core was of no use since the beginning !
Don't forget it was made of 4 inch thick steel beams.
So... the debate continues.

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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 03:48 PM


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on JREF there is a discussion about a concrete core, Christoperea is convinced
that that is the case, I've not really followed that discussion actively.
In movies I've never seen this, in the collapse of the north tower you
see that the whole frame is destroyed and that a few elements fall away
like mikado sticks.
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 04:06 PM


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Its unusual because I never heard about this until now.
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911wasaninsidejob
Posted: Oct 9 2006, 04:13 PM


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It makes me question the validity of the picture because i have never been showed it before and the skeptics would have been all over this from day one...but i can only speculate...let's assume it's legitimate, what could this mean? were bombs placed on spots not touching the core as to eliminate the outer walls first? I really have no idea...what do you guys think?
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 04:21 PM


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QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 03:28 AM)
I had this image sent to me in a forum one time by someone who supports the official story, it shows a picture taken from NJ after one of the towers collapsed, it seems that for a little while the core was still there standing and then it collapsed...what do you think?

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How do you know it's the core?

It looks like a part of the outer walls to me. A fraction of the outer walls stood for quite a while after the destruction.
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 04:46 PM


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Good thinking...could definitly be the outer wall...is there anyway St911 or someone with experience with the WTC towers and the structure can confirm this?
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 05:57 PM


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QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 12:46 PM)
Good thinking...could definitly be the outer wall...is there anyway St911 or someone with experience with the WTC towers and the structure can confirm this?

Let me get my secretary to phone Larry Silverstein on his direct line........nope, he's not picking up.




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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 06:04 PM


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A single picture doesn't say a lot to me, a movie would be better
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 08:35 PM


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you see it on 911 eyewitness
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Posted: Oct 9 2006, 11:17 PM


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It's not solid. It looks solid, but, it's not. I went over this same thing with Christophera. I posted the response below in one of his concrete core threads.

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Watch this video. It's a video of the North Tower collapse, but that's not what I want you to see. You should look to the right where the South Tower used to be. What do you see?
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vid...%20Hoboken.mpeg
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Posted: Oct 10 2006, 12:25 AM


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QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 09:49 AM)
It really makes me question the CD...

I believe i've seen the movie of where that picture came from and that is not the core. Secondly, have you seen 9/11 Mysteries? You should have no doubts of CD after seeing that movie, no matter what the skeptics show you. cheers.gif
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FrankyGER
Posted: Oct 12 2006, 10:05 AM


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Hi,

when i watch that video "What we saw", by Bob an Bri, for me it's clearly visible that the core is still standing, when the building has already crumbled to dust.
Watch from 10:52 when in the middle of the air the core becomes visible when the main dust clowd is beeing sucked down. Watch until 20:08 when the antenna from the top of the building, still connected to the core is coming down. Many seconds after the building came down.

Greetings, Frank
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 01:06 AM


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I'm not sure what you mean. All I know is it doesn't look much like any core in this video.
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/vid...%20Hoboken.mpeg

I see the North Tower on the left hand side. And on the right hand side, I see a big dark cloud where the South Tower used to be.
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 03:52 PM


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QUOTE (BoneZ @ Oct 10 2006, 12:25 AM)
QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 09:49 AM)
It really makes me question the CD...

I believe i've seen the movie of where that picture came from and that is not the core. Secondly, have you seen 9/11 Mysteries? You should have no doubts of CD after seeing that movie, no matter what the skeptics show you. cheers.gif

Wait, which ones are the skeptics? dunno.gif
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 09:15 PM


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QUOTE (BoneZ @ Oct 10 2006, 12:25 AM)
QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 09:49 AM)
It really makes me question the CD...

I believe i've seen the movie of where that picture came from and that is not the core. Secondly, have you seen 9/11 Mysteries? You should have no doubts of CD after seeing that movie, no matter what the skeptics show you. cheers.gif

Your statement is the antithesis of critical thinking.
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 09:37 PM


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QUOTE (FrankyGER @ Oct 12 2006, 10:05 AM)
Hi,

when i watch that video "What we saw", by Bob an Bri, for me it's clearly visible that the core is still standing, when the building has already crumbled to dust.
Watch from 10:52 when in the middle of the air the core becomes visible when the main dust clowd is beeing sucked down. Watch until 20:08 when the antenna from the top of the building, still connected to the core is coming down. Many seconds after the building came down.

Greetings,  Frank

About that movie, Does anyone find it odd that they cut out or "stop filming" exactly when the second plane hits and when Tower 2 collapses. Somebody needs to get a hold of these people. They coul be a GIANT help to the truth movement.

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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 01:13 AM


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QUOTE (Loonis @ Oct 13 2006, 05:15 PM)
QUOTE (BoneZ @ Oct 10 2006, 12:25 AM)
QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 09:49 AM)
It really makes me question the CD...

I believe i've seen the movie of where that picture came from and that is not the core. Secondly, have you seen 9/11 Mysteries? You should have no doubts of CD after seeing that movie, no matter what the skeptics show you. cheers.gif

Your statement is the antithesis of critical thinking.

Care to explain?
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 01:38 AM


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QUOTE (911wasaninsidejob @ Oct 9 2006, 03:28 AM)
I had this image sent to me in a forum one time by someone who supports the official story, it shows a picture taken from NJ after one of the towers collapsed, it seems that for a little while the core was still there standing and then it collapsed...what do you think?

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That image looks to be one of the series which can be found at amanzafar.com. Looking at the other pics in the series make it clear that whatever it was, pieces of it were falling apart (or blowing up) within moments of the rest of the building. Sure, some of it could still be standing and obscured by smoke, but it has lost a significant amount of its height within seconds when compared with how it looks in other images from the same perspective.
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 03:05 PM


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CD or not CD, that isnt the whole question, someone could completly debunk the CD theory and there still would be a hundreds of unaswered questions, like why did the head of the ISI pakistani secret service have 100k wired to mohammed atta via an operative.


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On October 6, 2001, a senior-level U.S. government official told CNN that U.S. investigators had discovered Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh (Sheik Syed), using the alias "Mustafa Muhammad Ahmad" had sent about $100,000 from the United Arab Emirates to Mohammed Atta. "Investigators said Atta then distributed the funds to conspirators in Florida in the weeks before the deadliest acts of terrorism on U.S. soil that destroyed the World Trade Center, heavily damaged the Pentagon and left thousands dead. In addition, sources have said Atta sent thousands of dollars -- believed to be excess funds from the operation -- back to Saeed in the United Arab Emirates in the days before September 11. CNN later confirmed this. [2]
The 9/11 Commission's Final Report states that the source of the funds "remains unknown."
More than a month after the money transfer was discovered, the head of ISI, General Mehmood Ahmed resigned from his position. [It was reported that the FBI was investigating the possibility that Gen. Ahmed ordered Saeed Sheikh to send the $100,000 to Atta [3]; there were also claims that Indian intelligence had already produced proof for the Pakistani administration that this was so. [4]
The Wall Street Journal was one of the only Western news organizations to follow up on the story, citing the Times of India: "US authorities sought [Gen. Mehmood Ahmed's] removal after confirming the fact that $100,000 [was] wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan by Ahmad Umar Sheikh at the instance of Gen Mehmood."[5] Another Indian newspaper, the Daily Excelsior, quoting FBI sources, reported that the "FBI’s examination of the hard disk of the cellphone company Omar Sheikh had subscribed to led to the discovery of the "link" between him and the deposed chief of the Pakistani ISI, Gen. Mehmood Ahmed. And as the FBI investigators delved deep, sensational reports surfaced with regard to the transfer of 100,000 dollars to Mohammed Atta, one of the kamikaze pilots who flew his Boeing into the World Trade Centre. Gen. Mehmood Ahmed, the FBI investigators found, fully knew about the transfer of money to Atta."[6]
The Pittsburgh Tribune notes that "There are many in Musharraf's government who believe that Saeed Sheikh's power comes not from the ISI, but from his connections with our own CIA."[7]
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 03:21 PM


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user posted image

this picture shows the core still standing.
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 06:48 PM


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QUOTE (MaxKA @ Oct 15 2006, 03:21 PM)
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this picture shows the core still standing.

It Does? I see smoke, not the core
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 06:55 PM


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user posted image

look again, it's quite hard to miss
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 11:59 PM


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If that's the core, why is it not in the center of the vertical smoke plume? It seems to be a portion of the facade to me. but can't say for sure.

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Posted: Oct 16 2006, 12:04 AM


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Watch this, you'll see that the plume is not in the center of the collapse it moves to the east, away from the core.

http://terrorize.dk/911/wtc1dem7/911.wtc.1...tamorphosis.wmv

Here's a good closeup of the spire

http://terrorize.dk/911/wtc1dem6/911.wtc.1...re.close.up.avi

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