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Posted: Sep 9 2006, 11:19 AM
Member No.: 4,861
Joined: 9-September 06
And what I mean is don't let THEM poke so many holes in your argument.
1) Cite multiple experts. Anyone can find one guy that will go out on a limb to support a conspiracy theory.
I just saw a much more convincing program on the Discovery Channel on the twin towers, "Anatomy of a Collapse." They cited experts, several of them.
Needless to say, I'm not buying the "explosives stashed in the building" portion of your theory.
2) Dig Deeper. You brought up interesting points that I have never heard: Marvin Bush's role, the call to the San Francisco mayor the day before, the flight cancellations of military flag officers, and the continued use of the United side numbers. Why not ask someone about it (multiple sources)instead of leading us to believe it had to be a conspiracy? All this evidence is intriguing, but without more research, it still is nothing more than a lot of inconsistencies.
I saw this movie for the first time this last weekend. Again, I thought it was compelling, but it falls far short of convincing. Let's face it, after these last few years, we know that our government is capable of doing some pretty heinous stuff. But I am more likely to say that the Bush administration is incompetent than brilliant. And it would take a brilliant mind to pull this off as an inside job. Conspiracies are not impossible, but a conspiracy of this sort would be near impossible. The biggest question would be: How many people would have to be involved? I'm sure most people could not answer this, but one would have to think it would have to be hundreds, if not thousands of people, spanning the FBI, CIA, NSA, FAA, military, as well as the President and his advisors. All these people, many of whom would have nothing to gain from supporting such a plan. All these people who would have to go to sleep every night with 3000+ dead souls on their conscience. Somebody would be bound to come clean.
So, in short, although an interesting movie, I need a lot more proof that this was the greatest conspiracy the world has ever known.
Posted: Sep 9 2006, 02:42 PM
Member No.: 1,144
Joined: 10-April 06
Kinda hard to poke holes in questions. You can either answer or you can't. Seems to me it's the "conspiracy theorists" who are poking holes in the official line.
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So what are you buying? The pancake theory? Even NIST doesn't buy that one. And in case you missed it the first time-
I think the near-symmetrical collapse of a 47 story building in 6.6 seconds is more than an inconsistency. Can you explain it? NIST and FEMA can't. Can you explain people, concrete, office furniture, and carpet being converted to fine dust?
Can you explain gravel-sized bone fragments on the roof of the Deutsche Bank building?