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| broodlinger |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 06:52 AM
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| JackHorner |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 07:11 AM
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Jesus...
So now you have gone from "theres no planes" to "THE ENTIRE SCENE IS CGI!!!" This is getting really old. This post has been edited by JackHorner on Aug 24 2006, 07:12 AM |
| broodlinger |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 07:46 AM
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Get it straight, kid. I never said there was no planes. Just not on these videos.
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| JackHorner |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 08:01 AM
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![]() LOL you have to draw lines from the base of the buildings because the satellite is not exactly over the buildings (see how the top is about an inch away to the right of the base?). If you draw a line to the top, of course it’s not going to look right. This post has been edited by JackHorner on Aug 24 2006, 08:33 AM |
| broodlinger |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 08:26 AM
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>LOL you have to draw lines from the base of the buildings because the satellite is not exactly over the buildings
Good point, I screwed it up. Admins feel free to delete this thread. I'll go to the Brooklyn Bridge and take an actual picture. |
| JackHorner |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 08:28 AM
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Heres another reason why you can't trust satallite images as being a factual representation of the world; they always stitch multiple images together from different times and different angles, aswell as edit them, and sometimes even paint things out because of national security.
Heres an example of two different images that have been stitched together. (Lines in red) This post has been edited by JackHorner on Aug 24 2006, 08:46 AM |
| broodlinger |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 09:52 AM
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Alright, here's the corrected version. Buildings 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, and 9 are off.
In order for them to be correct, building 2 would have to be on the side (not the center) of its lot, building 3 would have to be in the middle, not the side of its lot, building 4 would have to be next to Nassau St (clearly, from the satellite it's got buildings inbetween), building 7 just misses, building 8 would have to be on the left side of its lot (it's on the right), and building 9 (orange arrow) would have to be in the street. ![]() Did I measure the locations of the buildings wrong? You tell me. ![]() Remember, this time around I used the satellite image to *find the lots* that the buildings are on, and then I drew the arrows using the map. Is Google Maps just not reliable? I would find it hard to believe if lower manhattan isn't measured and re-measured down to the foot. |
| JackHorner |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 11:59 AM
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Why don't you just come out and say it; judging by what you think you found you are saying that the entire shot is fake, right?
To me, that seems absurd. Its way to dangerous and they would never attempt this unless we lived in a full on police state, where the media is completely controlled under the threat of death to whoever talks. We do not live in that world, yet. For this to be possible thousands of people would have to be in on it, the reporters, the guy at the upload station, the guy that directs the live news in the control room in real time (telling people what shot to show), the people that do what he says, the camera men on the ground and so on. These people are for the majority just like you and me. You just can’t show beyond a reasonable doubt that these buildings are in the wrong places. For one, you must know the exact location of the camera, its height from the ground, and its precise longitude and latitude. Without that you have no real way of knowing where it is. You cannot be precise with such an imprecise method. |
| Sun Zoo |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 02:31 PM
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| littleali |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 02:48 PM
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My name is Alison........... I`m not an Arab ![]() Group: Members Posts: 61 Member No.: 3,227 Joined: 5-July 06 |
all this CGI stuff is gettin tedious IMHO
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| Sun Zoo |
Posted: Aug 24 2006, 03:20 PM
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It's frick'n NUTS if you ask me, IMHO. |
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| broodlinger |
Posted: Aug 27 2006, 04:19 AM
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Why don't you just come out and say it; judging by what you think you found you are saying that the entire shot is fake, right? To me, that seems absurd. Its way to dangerous and they would never attempt this unless we lived in a full on police state, where the media is completely controlled under the threat of death to whoever talks. We do not live in that world, yet. For this to be possible thousands of people would have to be in on it,
This video stops when the plane hits the tower. Then, the camera is MOVED from its tripod, placed atop the shoulder of the cameraman, and continues to shoot the fireball. Thousands of people? Why don't you admit that this video was taken by more than one person and you don't know who they are? |
| opened_mind |
Posted: Sep 8 2006, 02:58 AM
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Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open ![]() Group: Members Posts: 376 Member No.: 1,961 Joined: 12-May 06 |
WTF is with the maps
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