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TruthKey
Posted: Jun 23 2006, 08:52 PM


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The documentary LC2e is a great one, however...I have one small problem. Dylan says that the cell phone calls must be faked because they couldn't have taken place. However, when you read the transcripts, one guy says-I'm calling you with an airphone.

So he's not calling from a cellphone.

Do airphones allow you to call people from them?

When were they invented?

Are all the calls from this airphone?

Anyone know?
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chucksheen
Posted: Jun 23 2006, 08:53 PM


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The stolen black boxes can tell you.
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Posted: Jun 24 2006, 05:08 AM


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I think the most obvious fake is the guy calling from the bathroom on his cell. Being inside bathrooms get poor reception even on the ground!
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Posted: Jun 24 2006, 05:58 AM


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The cellphone calls were faked or falsely generated somehow, it was impossible for these calls to happen. This fact brings the validity of the airphone calls into serious doubt.
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Posted: Jun 24 2006, 06:45 AM


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they were all pre-recorded ... none of them made sense ... and none of them seemed to respond to anything those on the other end were saying.
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Posted: Jun 25 2006, 12:21 AM


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QUOTE
The stolen black boxes can tell you.


CHUCK aint that the truth?! clap.gif
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Posted: Aug 22 2006, 01:45 AM


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QUOTE (chucksheen @ Jun 23 2006, 08:53 PM)
The stolen black boxes can tell you.

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Posted: Aug 22 2006, 04:39 PM


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QUOTE (TruthKey @ Jun 23 2006, 08:52 PM)
The documentary LC2e is a great one, however...I have one small problem. Dylan says that the cell phone calls must be faked because they couldn't have taken place. However, when you read the transcripts, one guy says-I'm calling you with an airphone.

So he's not calling from a cellphone.

Do airphones allow you to call people from them?

When were they invented?

Are all the calls from this airphone?

Anyone know?

Since every other answer appears to be a non-answer I will answer you :

Do airphones allow you to call people from them? YES.

When were they invented? ???? THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOREVER. GOOGLE IT.

Are all the calls from this airphone? THERE ARE MULTIPLE AIRPHONES BUT THERE WERE ALSO ALLEGED CELL PHONE CALLS.

Anyone know?
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Posted: Aug 27 2006, 04:47 AM


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QUOTE (TruthKey @ Jun 23 2006, 08:52 PM)
Helios Airways Flight 522, a Boeing 737, en route to Athens, Greece crashed into a hillside at full speed. 121 passengers, all dead. Fire. Tail sections. Wing sections. Engines. Cockpit. Bodies. Catch my drift? What's this. Got to do. With a plane. Hitting. The Pentagon. At 530. Miles per hour?
Why don’t. You shut. The f*ck. Up.

Care to explain that signature of yours? Seriously, I'm confused.
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Posted: Aug 27 2006, 09:33 PM


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Unlike the cellphone calls, the airphone calls could have been possible, however, no authorization charges to the passengers' credit cards has ever been confirmed hmm.gif

As far as the so-called phone call "Mom, this is Mark Bingham" is concerned, someone in a sound studio really cocked that one up! Whoever pretended to be Mark Bingham obviously hadn't gotten into character that day as he was still talking in the 3rd person! It wouldn't surprise me if that mufled sound halfway through the call wasn't his supervisor telling him how to redeem credibility! Regardless of circumstance, I would never call my mom with my last name! In the call he was more concerned about convincing his mom that he was on the plane, and that it had been hijacked than saying any last "farewells" as the official story goes. It's simply... crap.gif biggrin.gif

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nicolas
Posted: Aug 27 2006, 10:12 PM


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QUOTE (beached @ Aug 27 2006, 09:33 PM)
As far as the so-called phone call "Mom, this is Mark Bingham" is concerned, someone in a sound studio really cocked that one up! Whoever pretended to be Mark Bingham obviously hadn't gotten into character that day as he was still talking in the 3rd person!

Yeah, that thing makes me think that being an actor may be harder than I thought. Or maybe federal agents are just really incompetent ? dunno.gif
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Posted: Aug 28 2006, 03:33 AM


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125.) A lie isn't a lie until someone else knows the truth.


The fact that the phone calls were so abnormal means they were probably voice morphed in real time. An actor, even a bad one, would have had more inflection in thier words. No actors were used just cold voice tech.

The fact the the REAL people (the ones on board those 4 planes that day) did not do or make the calls leads me to believe that they were not willing participants in this deal. For if they were that surely would have been part of the deal.

However I do not feel they are dead.

If they were killed after landing in Cleveland they would have planted the bodies at thier appropriate crash scenes. As they did not we must logically assume that they are indeed alive.

Finding them, just one of them, should be out main priority. You can change your name and where you live and your SSN. What you can not change in this world remains few. I doubt that these people have changed thier faces. So we need photos of all these people somewhere all we in the movement can see them. We might recognize one of them. Collar one of them and this thing is blown open.

I could think of a few other choice souls that could be collared as well, but alas I go to far for a web forum. Just remember.

125.) A lie isn't a lie until someone else knows the truth.




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Posted: Aug 28 2006, 11:31 AM


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QUOTE (Killtown @ Jun 24 2006, 05:08 AM)
I think the most obvious fake is the guy calling from the bathroom on his cell. Being inside bathrooms get poor reception even on the ground!

I'm relatively sure that the signal obstruction posed by a real bathroom on-land, would be significantly larger than that of those flimsy airplane ones though...

I think that the call may have been possible in this instance, because of the low altitude of the plane (it was about 3mins before the impact, wasn't it?), and the possible proximity of a cell-site.
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Posted: Aug 30 2006, 08:58 PM


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QUOTE (dylan avery @ Aug 27 2006, 04:47 AM)
QUOTE (TruthKey @ Jun 23 2006, 08:52 PM)
Helios Airways Flight 522, a Boeing 737, en route to Athens, Greece crashed into a hillside at full speed. 121 passengers, all dead. Fire. Tail sections. Wing sections. Engines. Cockpit. Bodies. Catch my drift? What's this. Got to do. With a plane. Hitting. The Pentagon. At 530. Miles per hour?
Why don’t. You shut. The f*ck. Up.

Care to explain that signature of yours? Seriously, I'm confused.

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He is refering to what is called the "strangest aviation accident in history... still discussed by the guys on pprune.org after one year:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185849

Here`s a short abstract:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

I`ve dealt with it a lot... really astonishing.

The B 737 flew from Cyprus to Athens, lost contact, flew her programmed route on Autopilot to Athens, made a perfect approach on ATH (at 30.000 ft, though...), turned and flew to it`s holding pattern above Kea Island, circled it for about 1 hour, then left the pattern and descended slowly in northern direction, turning around via Athens again and crashed due to lack of fuel in the mountains... at full speed, leaving lots of visible wreckage.

I guess that`s what the signature means...

However, the first reports told of "frozen bodies", which later became "charred and burned". No way the alleged "Steward with an ATP licence" could survive more than 1 hour without oxygen at -50°C and finally try to land the doomed aircraft.

In my theory, it was a dry run for another 9/11.




QUOTE (TruthKey @ Jun 23 2006, 08:52 PM)
Helios Airways Flight 522, a Boeing 737, en route to Athens, Greece crashed into a hillside at full speed. 121 passengers, all dead. Fire. Tail sections. Wing sections. Engines. Cockpit. Bodies. Catch my drift? What's this. Got to do. With a plane. Hitting. The Pentagon. At 530. Miles per hour?
Why don’t. You shut. The f*ck. Up.

Care to explain that signature of yours? Seriously, I'm confused.

He is refering to what is called the "strangest aviation accident in history... still discussed by the guys on pprune.org after one year:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185849

Here`s a short abstract:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

I`ve dealt with it a lot... really astonishing.

The B 737 flew from Cyprus to Athens, lost contact, flew her programmed route on Autopilot to Athens, made a perfect approach on ATH (at 30.000 ft, though...), turned and flew to it`s holding pattern above Kea Island, circled it for about 1 hour, then left the pattern and descended slowly in northern direction, turning around via Athens again and crashed due to lack of fuel in the mountains... at full speed, leaving lots of visible wreckage.

I guess that`s what the signature means...

However, the first reports told of "frozen bodies", which later became "charred and burned". No way the alleged "Steward with an ATP licence" could survive more than 1 hour without oxygen at -50°C and finally try to land the doomed aircraft.

In my theory, it was a dry run for another 9/11.

This post has been edited by Kesha on Aug 30 2006, 09:02 PM
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