Val Mcclatchey Photo: More Smoking Guns, or Total Fraud?

If my analysis is correct, this should be the smoking gun of smoking guns to prove 9/11 was an inside job:


(Hi-res photo)


However, her photo may be a fake.

See here...

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-m...oking-guns.html

This post has been edited by Killtown on Jul 19 2006, 08:34 AM

So either the photo is a fake or the plume did not come from the alleged crash site. (?)

Pretty convincing.

Unless my analysis is terribly terribly flawed, I can't think of any other logical conclusions!

I dont know much about photography Killtown... but i did find this quote in your article...

"She suddenly heard a load roar of a plane fly over head and managed to just catch a glimpse of it as it flew over the horizon. "

This statement suggests the plane flew over her house, westbound, to the impact.


Her house is a good 2 miles east of the crash site. How can a plane fly "over head" her house when it came in from the North/Northwest? according to the PM picture below... (also interesting to note, if there was a "flight path", why is there no ditch carved out to the final impact crater. The crater suggests no flight path at all. It suggests a straight down verticle impact.)

Was the plane she heard fly "over head" the plane that dropped the ordinance?. It surely would explain the vector of the compression wave that took out the forest.




This post has been edited by johndoeX on Jul 19 2006, 09:49 AM

More on Val...

I looked into the pittsburglive article.. here is her quote..

"Val McClatchey heard the 757 roar over Indian Lake, three miles east of where it would crash. She had been watching the "Today" show, with footage from New York, and now the Pentagon. "


Indian lake is that big lake to the east of her house.. behind her house.

Either she is lying.. or Popular Mechanics is lying..

And if it did come in from the east.. over indian lake, how the heck did the crater end up in a north/south orientation...

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidenc.../pacrater3.html

This post has been edited by johndoeX on Jul 19 2006, 10:16 AM

Here ya go.... just made it.. hot from the press..

Crikey! Lovely find KT!

Oh SNAP son, ANOTHER smoking gun! I totally overlooked that! I'll add that to my article later today.

Good catch!

well done. that is interesting someone should drive down there and verify it.

Just updated the article.

Changed that she lives almost 2 miles away, not 2 1/2 miles.

Included johndoeX's great find about the plane flying overhead in the opposite direction and gave him props for it on my blog.




Also included:

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-m...oking-guns.html



Spread this around, this has the potential to blow things wide open!

Find the local newspapers and TV stations around Val's area and email or call them about this. Tell them to call Val out on this.

If Val faked this photo, this should make headline news. If she didn't, it PROVES a conspiracy and should make headline news!

I would be interested in knowing if she's a religious nut or was in the military or affiliated with an organization that warped her to cause her to go along with this hoax.

Does anyone know anything about her other than she's a real-estate agent?

Popular Mechanics lying?

Why would a relative of michael Chertoff lie?



man its hard to sound sarchastic these days

But in the movie "Flight 93" they said the terrorists did it, right?

I've also wondered how a plane can fly so low and then flip over and nosedive 90 deg into the ground all the while going 580mph!

May have found the explanation to Val's photo:






Photo by Rumpl4skn!

This is how Bob Craig of the FBI's evidence gathering team described the crash: "Turn the picture of the second plane hitting the World Trade Center on its side, and, for all intents and purposes, the face of the building is the strip mine in Shanksville. Look at the fireball in the picture. That's what happened." (Jere Longman, Among the Heroes, p. 260.)

He makes it sound like Flight 93 dived into a big pool of quicksand.

I like how the dirt was so "soft" that it was able to plunge all the way down, yet then the dirt was hard enough to disitegrate the plane in a million small pieces!

I just emailed Todd Beamer Foundation site (now called 'Heroic Choices') and told them to check out Val's photo since they receive money for it!

http://www.heroicchoices.org/contact.html

But who knows, maybe they are in on it too!

Email them and tell them to check out her photo...

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-m...oking-guns.html

Flood Pittsburg Post-Gazette about Val's suspicious photo...

http://www.post-gazette.com/contact/comments_form.asp?ID=37

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/07/val-m...oking-guns.html



Spread this around, this has the potential to blow things wide open!

Find the local newspapers and TV stations around Val's area and email or call them about this. Tell them to call Val out on this.

If Val faked this photo, this should make headline news. If she didn't, it PROVES a conspiracy and should make headline news!

Anytime KT... always a pleasure to help...

(BTW, im charging 20 bucks per pic... expect to be contacted by my attorney.. )


Its good to see you working on this...



This post has been edited by johndoeX on Jul 19 2006, 09:48 PM

To me, the biggest technical anomaly in the Flight 93 story is this: we are told this plane came down almost perpendicular to the ground, or at the very least, and extremely sharp angle. That means it struck the ground essentially at a T - the wings were parallel to the ground when it hit.

Yet we are to believe that the two engines - hitting the same type of "soft ground", at exactly the same attitude - behaved as unbelievably (key word) opposite to each other as possible upon striking the ground. One of them buried itself 25' or more feet below the ground, while the other bounced 1500' off this ground into a nearby pond. Most sane people would conclude there should have been a slight bit more symmetry in the reactions of these 2 identical pieces of equipment upon striking the same object.

Personally, I find neither story to be believable. Both would have been found, along with a hell of a lot more planes parts, fuel, bodies, luggage and blood. Mangled parts for certain, but lots of parts nonetheless.

And now that we have defintive proof of fraud in the "photo evidence" department, it's time for someone to fess up. Or, in the least, change to "official story ver. 3.0."

Everybody, give Rumpl4skn a round of applause, he is the one who first spotted that the trajectory of the smoke plume didn't line up!

uh, I thought the first guy that did that was Nico Haupt.

maybe they are the same guy?

No, Nico just posted his pics for him...

Rump, remember that the other engine was "found" only a few feet underground!...



And if I may say, I'd say it's a little rusty too!

Just to show you why the gov't can get away with what it does, just check out this comment left by a 'screwy' (supporter of Screw Loose Change) who reversed Dylan's name...

So we proved this photo proves gov't complicity in the MURDER of some 3,000 people or that this photo is a fraud, and he's only concerened that we violated Val's copyright!


What a dumbass!