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 Nyc Plane Crash - Todays Date Turn Upside Down, 10-11-06
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 10:11 PM


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QUOTE (bLaKmAjIk @ Oct 13 2006, 09:42 PM)
Stop degrading the truth movement with this crap. If people find out that we are quetioning this, we will have no credibility. It wasnt a conspiracy. It was a plane crash that resulted in a crappy pitcher being a crappy pilot. Lets stick to revealing the culprits that killed 3000 people. I dont have anything against the people discussing this, i just dont think this is a good place.

show me where on the facade that the wings hit.
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 10:14 PM


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Do you think it's possible, considering they (the bad guys) just might have used remote control to crash those airlines into the Twin Towers on 9/11, that those same people might have installed a remote control device to over-ride flight controls on that small plane that crashed 3 days ago?


I was thinking the same thing! Wouldn't put anything past them.

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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 10:21 PM


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Just like you can't make your neighbour's swing move with remote control.


I can make my neighbors swing move by remote control, no problem at all!

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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 10:29 PM


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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 10:57 PM


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QUOTE (bLaKmAjIk @ Oct 13 2006, 09:42 PM)
Stop degrading the truth movement with this crap. If people find out that we are quetioning this, we will have no credibility. It wasnt a conspiracy. It was a plane crash that resulted in a crappy pitcher being a crappy pilot. Lets stick to revealing the culprits that killed 3000 people. I dont have anything against the people discussing this, i just dont think this is a good place.

sorry about what i said before. You can discuss whatever you like to. I don't control this forum. Also I believe this is quite interesting. Keep a look out for more photos over the next few days.
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 11:22 PM


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QUOTE (Killtown @ Oct 13 2006, 10:11 PM)

show me where on the facade that the wings hit.

Impossible, as there was no plane that hit any apartment building in New York on 10/11/06. It was a holographically staged event to cow the American public into voting Republican in Nov.
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 11:25 PM


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found this info on unhivedmind website-Killtown-you would be interested in a lot of the numerology info they have accumulated on their site. Also, the first few chapters of William Coopers book-Behold a Pale Horse contains the same as applies to the Illuminati. Really think there's something to the recent "crash"-

"The building hit by Cory Lidle on the Upper East side was developed by William Zechendorf Jr., who not only has ties to the Rockefellers but also Israeli investment agencies in the US and the Freemasons..

The Columbia. This 35-story condominium was a major pioneer in the redevelopment of Broadway north of 86th Street. Not surprisingly, it was developed by William Zeckendorf Jr., and partners, who also pioneered the redevelopment of Union Square with Zeckendorf Towers and Eighth Avenue with the World Wide Plaza complex. For more information about The Columbia, please visit the Israel Real Estate Guide.
http://www.israelrealestateguide.com/
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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 11:28 PM


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For anyone interested in the website


http://s13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/

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Posted: Oct 13 2006, 11:31 PM


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QUOTE (stallion4 @ Oct 13 2006, 10:10 PM)
to question this and anything else I feel like. If you don't like that you can suck on it how's that sound thumbsup.gif

You go get em' charger!
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 12:05 AM


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QUOTE (Killtown @ Oct 11 2006, 09:33 PM)
Ok, what kind of aircraft looks like it crashed here:


Seeing the damage in that photo by a small light aircraft got me thinking how supporters of the official story could use it to their advantage.
"Wow look at how much damage a crashing small light aircraft can do, no wonder the twin towers collapsed"
But as someone has said when put in context, the damage to that appartment building is far greater than that of a jet airline hitting the Pentagon.
On the CBS news I heard someone mention the small plane flying at an altitude that escaped radar detection. Hope fully that won't add any ammunition to supporters of the official story.

I've also had an interesting theory on the date.
!8th September 2001 was the date for the Jewish New Year.(in the christian calender xmas day is the calender week prior to new year)
11th September 2001 would have been the Jewish equivalent of xmas day.
Christ was born a Jew into the Jewish calender. Remember the millenium purists saying that 2001 was the true accurate start to the millenium.
So technically 11th Sept 2001 is the 2,000 th anniversary of the birth of Christ, or the date of his second coming as some armageddon nutters believe.

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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 01:38 AM


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QUOTE (minced @ Oct 13 2006, 11:22 PM)
QUOTE (Killtown @ Oct 13 2006, 10:11 PM)

show me where on the facade that the wings hit.

Impossible, as there was no plane that hit any apartment building in New York on 10/11/06. It was a holographically staged event to cow the American public into voting Republican in Nov.

WHA!?!?!? was that sarcasm. I can't really tell in a forum. ohmy.gif
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 01:48 AM


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QUOTE (bLaKmAjIk @ Oct 14 2006, 01:38 AM)

WHA!?!?!? was that sarcasm. I can't really tell in a forum. ohmy.gif

Yeah. I was just being stupid. I apologize.
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 04:11 AM


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So a plane owned by a celebrity does an unusual u-turn, banking sharply to the left:

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The plane makes a huge fireball explosion:

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Few windows were shattered:

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The plane crash left no wing marks on the building:

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All the plane debris landed convienently on the sidewalk up against the building:

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But yet no plane debris is seen on the 2nd story ledge:

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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 05:01 AM


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Hmmm:

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Bloomberg said he spoke to the two occupants of the apartment closest to the crash site, who appeared to be unhurt.

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The mayor continued: "I think we have to say a little prayer for those we lost, two human beings' lives that were snuffed out. But we should also say thanks that it wasn't anything more serious than this."

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  snuff   

  3. Slang To kill; murder.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dicti...y/entry/snuff_2
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 05:14 AM


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'BOMBER' PILOT CRASHES PLANE

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But 13 minutes after takeoff, at 2:42 p.m., Lidle's aircraft crashed into the facade between the 40th and 41st floors of the 52-story building.

The debris that rained down on the street included burning parts of the plane, as well as the pitcher's passport, wallet and luggage. It is not clear whether Lidle or flight instructor Tyler Stanger was piloting the plane - but each had a set of controls.

The crash disintegrated most of the light plane, and both bodies were burned beyond recognition.

Last night, one of the victims remained strapped in his seat in the mangled cockpit, which lay on the street in front of the building.

The body of the other victim had been torn in half, with the lower part of his torso still missing.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122006/news/...ngan.htm?page=2
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 08:05 AM


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QUOTE (J4Justice @ Oct 13 2006, 10:21 PM)
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Just like you can't make your neighbour's swing move with remote control.


I can make my neighbors swing move by remote control, no problem at all!

J4Justice

Never knew your neighbour's swing had actuators in it. Oh wait let me guess, you mean blowing wind on the swing, right? rolleyes.gif

To make a cirrus 20 remotely controlled would require installing actuators and receivers for all basic flight functions, as it is a mechanically linked control (cable + pulley) craft.

So if the plane was rebuilt for RC, Lidle would know about it and either be "in" on it or downright murdered. The alternative is that he just had an accident.

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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 08:22 AM


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QUOTE (Killtown @ Oct 13 2006, 10:06 AM)
QUOTE (chrisfarb @ Oct 13 2006, 02:01 AM)
[No wing marks on the building. why?]

Those wings are made out of foam/ fibergalss composite construction.
Imagine a surfboard slamming into a brick buiding around 150 m.p.h... not likely to leave a mark.

It wouldn't even leave paint residue?


You've raised some very interesting points Kill, but perhaps there is no marking from the wings because the walls got sooty from the fire AFTER the crash.

Still, I wouldn't put anything past the scumbags that operate above the law.

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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 04:41 PM


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Ive found more people on the street more interested in this 10/11/6 upsidedown thing than the people on this board seem to be. In the light of OBVIOUS foulplay I would expect more truthers to jump all over this. Not saying you should take time to investigate it (since 911 is more important), but come on, atleast look at the key points and tell yourself the god honest truth.
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Posted: Oct 14 2006, 11:44 PM


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QUOTE (HotDogBun @ Oct 12 2006, 05:10 AM)
QUOTE (HotDogBun @ Oct 12 2006, 01:57 AM)
why does the zero disappear?

seriously, why does the zero disappear? Is it because it makes it 90/11/01 and completely invalidates the whole thing?

You're in denial, son.
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 12:44 AM


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To make a cirrus 20 remotely controlled would require installing actuators and receivers for all basic flight functions, as it is a mechanically linked control (cable + pulley) craft.


In most countries around the world when a plane goes out of control and slams into a building there is an investigation into the probable cause. Is there an investigation into this crash happening? Are they going to try and put the pieces of the little plane together or has the wreck already been disposed of. ? I mean if it happened once it could happen 100 times, that's a good reason to have investigations after the fact otherwise you could be working on the top floor of a high rise office building and expect to find yourself dead in the basement for no apparent reason. huh.gif
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 07:40 AM


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People, look at the ranging fire and ask what is causing that when most of the plane's fuel is located in the wings.

Remember Charles J. Bishop, who "stole" cessna and "flew" it into Sen. Grahm's (D) Tampa High-rise office complex? the plane went half way in and didn't even catch fire.

http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/200...-Charles_Bishop

Whatever his the Belaire Condo high-rise was NOT a plane.
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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 08:46 PM


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And there it is, the no-plane theory. Still needs an awful lot of explanation before I will buy it though.

Explain the eye witnesses. Where did Lidle, his instructor and his plane go to? Explain the wreckage. Perhaps make a suggestion what did hit the building then.

BTW in a way it's funny how the phrasing "raging fire" now suddenly is used to describe 4 appartments burning, when people are on their hind legs when this phrasing was used to describe the WTC burning.
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In most countries around the world when a plane goes out of control and slams into a building there is an investigation into the probable cause. Is there an investigation into this crash happening?


I'm quite sure they will, for the reasons you stated. It is an accident with unknown cause, so to prevent it from happening again they will investigate it. I hope they find the cause, but it won't be very easy without a black box or other recorder to go by. They'll have to find clues in the wreckage itself if they ever want certainty on what went wrong. That's quite possible for things like fatigue cracks, but some mishaps leave very little identifyable signs.

But they are already investigating it. If only to determine who was on the controls during the crash, for insurance reasons.

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Posted: Oct 15 2006, 08:58 PM


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QUOTE (Killtown @ Oct 15 2006, 07:40 AM)
Whatever his the Belaire Condo high-rise was NOT a plane.

Tell us what it was then? A hologram of a plane? And for what purpose?

This is just stupid... Makes me doubt the entire truth movement when people make a conspiracy out of everything... not everything is a conspiracy, God doesn't exist, accidents happen.. *sigh*

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QUOTE (AE4 @ Oct 15 2006, 08:46 PM)
Where did Lidle, his instructor and his plane go to?

You are right, it MUST have crashed there because I don't know where it went.

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QUOTE (EOR @ Oct 15 2006, 08:58 PM)
This is just stupid...

Just like no plane hit the Pentagon or crashed at Shanksville?
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QUOTE (Killtown @ Oct 16 2006, 12:35 AM)
QUOTE (AE4 @ Oct 15 2006, 08:46 PM)
Where did Lidle, his instructor and his plane go to?

You are right, it MUST have crashed there because I don't know where it went.

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Did I ever say I was right? Did I ever say I was right becasue you couldn't explain everything? I said that the no plane theory needs a lot of explanation before I buy it. For instance, the whereabouts of Lidle need to be explained. I don't care who explains it, I care about the explanation itself.

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QUOTE (AE4 @ Oct 16 2006, 07:30 AM)
Did I ever say I was right? Did I ever say I was right becasue you couldn\'t explain everything? I said that the no plane theory needs a lot of explanation before I buy it. For instance, the whereabouts of Lidle need to be explained. I don\'t care who explains it, I care about the explanation itself.

How do you want me to explain where his plane went?
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I don't know, it's not my theory. Again, it doesn't have to come from you, I just need it to be explained.

What convinces me is the most likely theory. At the moment, there is only one theory. The no-plane theory is at the moment not a theory, it is an anti-theory (this and this can NOT be, not this and this CAN be). For me to be convinced by a no-plane theory, I would need a coherent theory that explains the events of the day better than Lidle having trouble controlling the plane and crashing his plane into the building.

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QUOTE (AE4 @ Oct 16 2006, 07:42 PM)
For me to be convinced by a no-plane theory, I would need a coherent theory that explains the events of the day better than Lidle having trouble controlling the plane and crashing his plane into the building.

What\'s better than foresic evidence? How did the engine punch through a window, a raging fire seen in 4 windows, no evidence the wings hit, debris all conveniently piled on the sidewalk, but no debris on the roof of the 1st story where it should have dropped?
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