Increasing "the sphere" of truth.

Last night, I showed Loose Change to a friend of mine, an older guy of 63 who previously thought I was crazy when I tried to tell him about the CD of the twin towers.

He does not think I was crazy any more.

I've been researching this thing since late 2002, and I always keep an eye on how the information has spread and is spreading, looking for trends, and trying to seek out ideas for ways to move the truth ever faster and wider.

The main thing I always wanted to see, was for an information package of some kind to be put together, which would cause people to "get it" almost 100% of the time.

Loose Change is it.

From what I can tell, it wins people over about 90% of the time, or better.

And so my question is this.

Why do we spend so much time sitting around discussing, preaching to the choir, or arguing on the Net with sceptics and debunkers, when all the while, the average Joe who hasn't been exposed to this information, is converted by it 90% of the time, simply by sticking it into his DVD player and watching it on the tube (or flatscreen)?

This is how simple our task at hand is now, thanks to Loose Change.

All we need to do, is give people the DVD and make sure they actually watch it. That's it. Then, when they return with questions, we can help them find their way and point them in the right direction.

The very first thing my friend suggested after watching the movie, was that copies should be sent to schools and churches, and to the RCMP. He was not only converted, but due to his compassion for the world, made into an instant activist. Thus, many of the disks you hand out to people, are going to "bifurcate" as in a type of "pay it forward" continual progression or exponential increase in 9/11 truth telling information dissemination.

I've thought about this long and hard for well over three years now. Forget the Net. Word is spreading there. The BEST way, to get this information out there far and wide, to as many people as possible, as fast as possible, is to make copies of the DVD and hand them out to people. Now how hard is that? Think about it..

And so if you really care about this issue, and wish to play a part in getting the information out to the masses, then I strongly suggest you save up your money and invest in a DVD duplicator, and a labeler, to make it more inviting, and to put a "copy and distribute" message on it. As I understand, you can get the price per unit down to about 50 cents.

I think the best places to distribute would be major urban areas, and institutions of learning.

As many of us as possible, and those with some financial resources (doesn't take much, and they CAN be shared with other like minded people), should become Loose Change DVD factories and distribution channels.

Right now, only very FEW of us are doing this, whereas MANY of us ought to be doing this, and once again I ask, just how hard is it?

It's best when people see this on their TV through their DVD player. Another friend of mine who first saw it on Google and THEN on the TV, said it was like night and day and was 100X more impactful watching it on the TV.

There is no better, no simpler, or cost effective form of 9/11 Truth Activism.

The price of DVD Duplicators is coming down, and the disks themselves are cheap cheap cheap, and the paper sleaves next to nothing.

Imagine yourself and your friends with a box of 1000, heading out to your local college campus, or to the main intersection of your nearest city - what a "truth bomb" that would make..?

Think about it, and then do whatever you can with whatever amount of resources that are available to you, but if you want to make a difference, this is the way to go. Grass roots, bottom up emergent, is the way to go with this.

If we and others we inspire to do this, end up getting 100,000 units out there, then that will end up converting a new 10,000,000 people ultimately, and over the course of time, 100,000,000 given the nature of the info and how motivating it is to do something about it, and the only thing people CAN do, at this stage, is to participate in spreading the word.

Best,

SZ

I would have to say this is a good point.

Can someone torrent an .img or .bin file so we can make quality copies?

Excellent post, Sun Zoo. I've been lurking the forums for a week or so now and this topic has immediate relevance to me. I was one of those people who, even just a year or so ago, thought that these "theories" (I put that in quote because now that I have taken the time to research for myself, this is no longer a conspiracy theory - it's a conspiracy, plain and simple) were preposterous.

Word of mouth brought me to Loose Change, and I could barely sleep the night after I watched it. The implications are almost beyond anyone's thoughts, but I've learned to research and come to terms that what we may be dealing with here. Loose Change proved to be the spark that ignited my interest in researching and opening my mind, which I know is the goal of Dylan, Korey, and Jason for every person who views it. That "for your consideration" title card is key.

I have since showed the film to about twenty people and have run off copies for my co-workers. They have all been, at the very least, simultaneously disturbed and intrigued. No one, even my bigtime Bush supporter friends, has outright rejected it. They all want to dig deeper.

You're very right about DVD replication: it's very cheap these days. I suggest SuperMediaStore.com for cheap DVDR's and drives. I've had excellent results from the Prodiscs.

In addition, I plan to give the film a positive review on my website. At the least that will get word out and get people watching it. Keep up the great work, guys.

-Bill
FromTheBalcony.com

This looks like a kick ass, reasonably priced, high production one, for example.


http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/Sea...648590&CatId=92

You want one where you can crank out about 100 during a "session" I think.

By sharing it with friends, not only can you get your own personal investment cost down to a minimum, but you can also increase production by also sharing production time with them.

Once you've got it in your hot little hands, then the only cost is the disks, sleeves, and maybe labelling. Can anyone price and post a pic of a labeler?

And for those who are doing this, can you share with us how you are set up, and share your stories about distributing to "the people". That would be great.

I would personally do it here at home on my computer because I don't have the loose change (BAHAHHA) do buy one of those things.

Good, high production ones cost about 1000-2000 dollars. So if you had four or five friends who are interested and who would like to actively participate in changing history as we know it, then down goes the cost big time. Most of us have the capability to put out a few hundred dollars, or to save for it. It's not that big a deal, and the return is just too great in this case to ignore.

If you want to make a difference, then this is the way to go.

You could then simply work at it part time, without it ruining your life, and make a big time difference while you're at it.

Peace of mind is important when dealing with this.

I know, I've been "through the wringer" as they say, more than once over this.

Had I done something like this earlier, I would not have lost so much sleep at night, or become such a hopeless addict.

Edit: If doing something like this, you could both make a big time difference, and kind of forget about it to an extent, and go on with your life, both, at the same time.

I think it would be a very peaceful pursuit, handing them out, at a college, a street corner, shopping mall, to people coming out of Church on a sunday, whatever. It would feel really good I think, and yes it would allow you to sleep better at night and spend less time on the net and more time cultivating healthy, meaningful and lasting relationships. We deserve to be healthy and happy while engaged in this activity for sure.

Considering that I am the sole provider of my g/f and 2 children and have a very strict budget, a few hundred dollars is quite alot.

Most of us could make it happen though, that's the point. Of all of us who COULD do it, and get a "factory" going, only about maybe 1 or 2% actually are. And don't feel bad if you can't. Everyone should simply do whatever they can with the available resources at their disposal. My sentiment though, for the most part, is that if there is a will, there is almost ALWAYS a way. And if you only have one burner, it just takes longer is all, and so you can't do it on the same scale. Every bit matters and makes a difference. The little guy can make a difference, and that is really how history is shaped in the final analysis. It's bottom up emergent, not top down command and control might makes right survival of the fittest, strongest and most "powerful". The Dick Cheneys and the George "Dubya"s lose, and the little guy who is one "of the people" ultimately wins, in the final analysis at the end of the day.

Yeah, I'm more than willing to do this. If you have access to a .bin or .img file, I will get started on making these DVD's today.

Could somone post a link to point him in the right direction for downloading the movie? Thanks.

Go to torrent download sites and you shouldn't have a problem finding it. Google it.

Nonono. I can find the video. I want an image file so I can make quality videos. Grainy videos look sketchy.

which formats are the clearest?

Tech help needed here. Thanks.

a .bin or .img file would be an exact duplicate or an exact image of the CD's contents.

Hey guys,

If you're looking for a torrent of the DVD, grab this one: http://torrentspy.com/torrent/248531/Loose...essed_dvd_image

It has an uncompressed .iso in it that will definitely get the job done.

EDIT: You can burn .iso's with Nero, Alcohol 120%, and most other general burning programs.

We need a community donation section so we can all pitch in Loose Change and buy a duplication device. The person that receives the duplicator should take pictures and go from there.

Awesome. Thank you very much.

Brilliant idea Chuck!

Then, when we see the pics and read the stories, about the results surrounding the enterprise, that will motivate people to start buying these things and setting up their own little production factories, and the donation effort would continue of course, one duplicator at a time. Great idea! Make it a community effort. 10, 20 bucks here and there, it would all add up in no time flat. You seem trustworthy. Why don't you set up a post office box address for receipt of the donations? I vote you treasurer for this worthy endeavour and noble historical pursuit.

Small starts, BIG OUTCOMES! That's how it works. Kinda like UniversalSeed.

I would gladly donate some money to this.

Yes, once a "production factory" or two is established, then people could also volunteer as distributors, say forum members who live near universities..?!

Just imagine receiving a package in the mail containing 500 units all ready to roll!

Emergent, bottom up. Small starts, BIG outcomes.

I live a block away from the capitol of Wisconsin here in Madison and a half mile from the University. I definitely plan on making this a project of mine next semester.

The summer of fear is coming.....

We need a web developer setup a sweet community site so we can start donating. Maybe turturis has some ideas. There have been various truthseekers here that have resources available.

DO NOT waste DVD's on people that have not connected the DOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is an F...ing waste of DVD's!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very F...ing time I think they may go home to watch it, it always turns out that they say "I haven't had the time" That is BS. They have time to watch all the other SH.. on TV, and the crap they rent at blockbusters.

When you follow my RULES when it comes to informing people about 911, it works 100% of the time. SO I suggest that you get on, and do it!!!!!!!!!!! I get very tired when I see people just pussy put-en around. Get the lead out.

They need to see "911 In Plane Site" FIRST! Where there is NO Plane at the Pentagon. That is the only 911 Golden hook for people in PUBIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...?showtopic=5869

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...?showtopic=5745

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...?showtopic=2398

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...?showtopic=5277

Daters do u have a duplicatator? I think you do since you give out so many copys anyway, i would gladly buy a duplicator but I have no Money Im stuck with my 8X DVD burner making a copy every hour. If you guys will donate I would gladly make copys with the duplicator then i could mail them out to ppl and give them away around here

I have 5 PC's with buners here @ the shop, and also It only take about 11min to burn one DVD

I have a spare DVD burner I can't use at the moment. I can attach it to an external USB2.0 enclosure for you to use DataRS, for now. Maybe I can give it to you on Sunday when if I see you at:

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...wtopic=6077&hl=

I 100% agree with datars. hell, he's the one who got me to watch in plane site from another forum. I have given LC2E to people with mixed response, but when I give them In Plane Site to watch first and THEN LC2E, it is always success. I think because In Plane Site is just straight-forward and less political. Also, if you can't burn DVD's, just spread the word by giving the links to Google Video. I was doing that when I was in Poland and people were eating it up. And yes, I agree with you SunZoo, it's all great to be here in the forum discussing these things, but we all need to go out and do our part. BTW, datars- have you given the link to the video you put on Google of you going to the electronics stores and putting the videos on computers and tv's? I was going to after seeing it. it's inspirational!

We should wait or distribute with disclaimers. What I mean is that Loose Change does indeed have errors in fact that I'm sure will be corrected in the Final Cut. We should wait until that time to distribute en-mass so that the film cannot be struck down for these factual inconsistencies. Because what the debunkers like to do is highlight the errors, dwell on them and try and discredit the whole thing from that point on.

Those who refuse to see will be more steadfast in their beliefs if they see a few of these errors will discount the film and the misinformation campaign begin.

I'd distribute this to people I know but telling them upfront that this research is on going and some of the presentation may not be factual. That way when and if they run into debunkers, they know right off the bat to expect an assault on the entire movie and discount what the debunkers are saying because they never give completely factual rebuttals either.

Call me up on my cell

On Google you can click what else the up-loader has provided.

So some of the videos I uploaded by datars and getthewordout911

I think LC-2 is just fine; it’s the debunkers that can go to hell! and what ightmuzik was saying if true. You can’t get anyone’s attention in pubic with LC-2 as much as you can with "911 In Plane site"

Look, people are interested in 9/11 many of them, and they for the most part, would be more than happy to get, and watch, a free DVD about the subject.

You don't need perfection to be effective. About 90% of the people (average Joe) who watches it with interest, believes most of it, or leaves the experience being VERY suspicious, if not convinced.

Don't be so controlling datars because of what you've found that works perfectly.

Getting mass, nation wide copying and distribution of the DVD that people watch on their TV would make a HUGE difference.

Get out of the way.

Let good things develop. Anything that spreads the word effectively is good.

It's only on the INTERNET for the most part, that everyone has all these issues and stumbling blocks.

All you need is a bank account, a name to write the check to, and an address, and someone who is trustworthy. I would donate 100 dollars to the cause, if it's a cause that people would rally behind, instead of shooting it down before it even has the chance to get off the frigg'n ground.

"Why do we spend so much time sitting around discussing, preaching to the choir, or arguing on the Net with sceptics and debunkers, when all the while, the average Joe who hasn't been exposed to this information, is converted by it 90% of the time, simply by sticking it into his DVD player and watching it on the tube (or flatscreen)?

This is how simple our task at hand is now, thanks to Loose Change.

All we need to do, is give people the DVD and make sure they actually watch it. That's it. Then, when they return with questions, we can help them find their way and point them in the right direction."

Very true, but being that I am into this movement and have been for a while now...i want to be able to wake up the average people with the basic stuff, but in my free time i like to debate the little details and the theories with people and agree/disagree with the other people involved in this movment. some thing they let it happen on purpose and that all the physical stuff is either disinfo or they just dont believe it, theres some who think it was completely israel and that a few members of our government who were in on it covered it up and blamed it on arabs, some thing the whole thing was set up by our own government and no plane hit the pentagon and the towers came down in CD. all these people have legitimate views and are trying to get the truth out, so debate is definitly good, but i do agree it really doesnt get us any where, thats why we need to be active as well...great post.

That's not going to happen. You can't make them watch the DVD when they get home. It will sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there, and sit there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun Zoo, not going to happen. Are you hard headed or what? They need to see the info first

get a dvd copy from dylan and duplicate it as dvds... i've done it 150 times... great picture quatlity as the first one....

mel and take care..

I give away DVD´s to my friends and colleagues- people usually don´t click the google link. I get a lot of response that way and I´m able to answer their questions. Those of my friends who has an academic background get the full package: David Ray Griffin, Steven E. Jones, Painfull Deceptions and LC2 - it´s really hard to deny Griffin and Jones´ arguments.
I ask those who become "awaken" to pass the DVD´s on to their respective friend and colleagues - we´re all interconnected in one way or another.

What I was seeking was the simplest, most straightforward way, to get Loose Change to the masses by harnessing the law of increasing returns. Chucksheen's idea I thought was a brilliant one, getting one "factory" going after another. People are in fact interested, and they will watch it, if you just talk to them a bit about it first. I've been in sales, and the recruitment business for over 20 years, and I know what I'm talking about. The climate is ripe now.

But, since no one will watch it, then I guess we'll just have to leave it all up to datars. Your cynical position datars is IMO pathetic. You've done good work in your "sphere" using your resources to the best of your ability, and that's to be applauded, but talking down something which might have the potential, once it get's rolling, to get an additional 100,000 units circulating, simply because of your own narrow, self centric viewpoint on what the RULES are, and what won't work, is to be a hindrance. Like I said, don't get in the way.

Guys like Chucksheen have the right idea about this kind of thing, and so what if EVERYONE does not watch it. If's it's done right, most will, and when they do, they will get others to do so, and some will copy and distribute. Law of increasing returns. The very nature of this information ignites it. You've gotta look at the big picture and not merely at what has worked for you personally. Maybe you are not all that great at discussing this with people, but they ARE interested, and if approached in the right way, they WILL watch it. All it takes is a little persuasion is all.

See right here's a potential distributor who's admitted that he himself doesn't have the available fundage to get a healthy production process going. If we raised the dough, and then if either he or someone else pumped out the product, here would be an opportunity to launch a big time truth bomb in that area of the country, and totally cover that university with this information.

What we want to find, is the absolute simplicity on the other side of chaos.

Let's hear some reports about people who made many many copies and then went out and approached strangers, or the response that you got from aquaintences who you gave it out to. Did they watch it, report back? If so, what did they think and if not, why not? Just because datars got a shitty reponse trying to do this kind of thing doesn't mean neccessarily that everyone else did or would.

sun zoo, off topic for a minute...just curious as to what is the big secret that was/is supposed to happen? did it happen yet?

good idea!!! I would donate 50 bucks for this. someone please put up a website where i can donate.