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Title: The Pentagon Renovations / Rebuilding
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CptFarlow - May 13, 2006 05:58 PM (GMT)
I was poking around on What Really Happened, and found this:


The Pentagon Renovations
Completed on 9/11/2001

A year’s work finally finished. Dan Fraunfelter counted himself lucky when he landed a job working on the first phase of the massive Pentagon renovation project. When the military complex was originally built, it was constructed in five, chevron-shaped wedges. Each chevron, more than 1 million square feet in size, accommodating roughly 5,000 workers, was designed as a stand-alone building with its own separate utility system. The unique design was meant to make the entire complex stronger (if one section of the building was suddenly disabled, the others could function regularly without disruption.)
But it also lent itself particularly well to renovation. Even though the Pentagon is massive—larger than three Empire State Buildings, the face on each of the five sides slightly longer than three football fields— the wedge construction allowed engineers to remake the building one, easy-to-close-off section at a time. Contractors could simply move workers, seal off a wedge, and install new features like reinforced steel columns and two-inch-thick blast-resistant windows. Fraunfelter, a 24-year-old who studies architecture part time at Northern Virginia Community College, had long been fascinated by the Pentagon. When his firm, Amec Construction, won the general contract for Wedge 1, he plunged into the job eagerly, anxious to explore every square inch of the physical structure.

On Sept. 11, the contract officially complete, Fraunfelter was finishing up a few last punch-list items. He arrived on-site at 7 a.m. to prepare for an 8 a.m. tenant meeting. It was a routine job-completion task, a meeting where tenants handed over a list of final fix-it items: touch-up painting, leaking pipes, etc. MSCBC Link

American Airlines Flight 77 struck the portion of the building that had already been renovated. It was the only area of the Pentagon with a sprinkler system, and it had been reconstructed with a web of steel columns and bars to withstand bomb blasts. The steel reinforcement, bolted together to form a continuous structure through all of the Pentagon's five floors, kept that section of the building from collapsing for 30 minutes--enough time for hundreds of people to crawl out to safety.

The area struck by the plane also had blast-resistant windows--2 inches thick and 2,500 pounds each--that stayed intact during the crash and fire. It had fire doors that opened automatically and newly built exits that allowed people to get out.

"This was a terrible tragedy, but I'm here to tell you that if we had not undertaken these efforts in the building, this could have been much, much worse," Evey said. "The fact that they happened to hit an area that we had built so sturdily was a wonderful gift."

The rest of the Pentagon would not have fared as well.

The fire that swept through the building caused the greatest damage in an unrenovated section with no sprinkler system, heavy windows or steel reinforcements. But many of the offices there were empty in anticipation of the renovation.

While perhaps 4,500 people normally would have been working in the hardest-hit areas, because of the renovation work only about 800 were there Tuesday, officials said. [LATimes]

Most of Marine Aviation had just the weekend before been moved to the "Butler building," an extension of the Pentagon and about 200 yards from where the impact occurred, not nearly as close as their previous offices. []

Normally 5000 people work in [wedge 2], but by September 11 renovation of this second wedge was underway. Three months earlier most of the 5000 employees who work in wedge 2 were relocated to temporary offices elsewhere.
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So the contract was officially complete on Sept. 11? A MAJOR coincidence, for sure! Or is it? One side gets renovated to withstand an attack. That one wedge gets hit on the same day that three steel buildings collapsed from fire, and a plane full of people dissapeared in PA. :blink:

Also, the death toll here, as well as the WTC, was far less than what it could have been...showing a horribly planned attack by supposed "mastermind terrorist hijackers...with box cutters."

Now, take a look at the MSNBC article...I found a few highlights worth mentioning:

Another officer found a window that had been blown out, and “we put out the rest of the glass, boosted each other up and crawled through,” Anderson says. Inside, it was pitch black, dense smoke was everywhere, visibility was nil. “We got down on the floor and worked our way toward the fire,” he says. “We got to a door, but couldn’t get it open.” They felt around and found a body.” There was a pulse; it was a large woman who appeared to be in shock.” She couldn’t get up. Her body had apparently been slammed against a wall, and was now wedged into the building. Working together, the men worked to free her and drag her to an exit, to waiting helpers. Anderson later heard that she had lasted eight days and died on Sept. 19.

She was wedged into the wall? That must have been a tremendous amount of force behind that blast. Now, would a plane impact have that much force, or is it more likely to be some sort of other force, such as a missile or explosive device? If there weren't such a lack of physical evidence for a plan being there...I might say a plane, but it seems more likely there were some sort of explosvies there...the following two statements help support that theory...

Back in the building again, Anderson said he began “screaming and hollering for people as secondary and third-order explosions started going off. One of them was a fire department car exploding—I think my right eardrum exploded at the same time, and it unequivocally scared the heck out of me.” Knocked to the ground, Anderson was picking himself up, “when I noticed a brilliant flash of orange light shoot past me like a jet. I didn’t know if part of the roof was falling down or what. But whatever it was, it bounced up against the window in front of me like a rubber band. I suddenly realized it was someone on fire—a guy. The whole front of him was on fire, and I realized he was trying to find his way out of the building, and he must have thought that window was a door. The sergeant and I jumped on top of him, and smothered the flames, and grabbed him—his feet and hands, anything we could grab—and pulled him out of the building.

Secondary and third-order? Also, remember, the fire truck was only parked about 50 feet from the impact zone...while one exoloded, it is yet another coincidence that emergency trucks were so close to a "surprise attack."

Hoping that rescuers would be allowed back into the building once the fire was under control, Anderson found it hard to leave. “The whole time, I was waiting to go back in, to get people out of the building, but that time never came. It was frustrating, because everytime they seemed to be at a point where they were making headway, and it looked like the fire department was in a position to make entry, we’d be notified by someone that another airplane was inbound, there were other hijackers in the air, and they would evacuate us across the highway. The military hates to retreat, but we would have to put the hoses down and wait, sit there and wait, until they said it was all clear and we could get back in position. That happened three or four times—and it was absolutely frustrating.

Wow, so what we have is somebody keeping people out of the building, at the expense of the chance of rescuing lives. We know that there were no other hijackers, so who was giving those reports? Very peculiar. [hmm]

Alan Wallace usually worked out of the Fort Myer fire station, but on Sept. 11 he was one of three firefighters assigned to the Pentagon’s heliport. Along with crew members Mark Skipper and Dennis Young, Wallace arrived around 7:30 in the morning. After a quick breakfast, the 55-year-old firefighter moved the station’s firetruck out of the firehouse. President Bush had used the heliport the day before: he’d motorcaded to the Pentagon, then flown to Andrews Air Force Base for a trip to Florida. Bush was scheduled to return to the Pentagon helipad later on Tuesday, Wallace says. So Wallace wanted the firetruck out of the station before Secret Service vehicles arrived and blocked its way. He parked it perpendicular to the west wall of the Pentagon. Wallace and Skipper were walking along the right side of the truck (Young was in the station) when the two looked up and saw an airplane. It was about 25 feet off the ground and just 200 yards away—the length of two football fields. They had heard about the WTC disaster and had little doubt what was coming next. “Let’s go,” Wallace yelled. Both men ran.

What were they doing at the heliport? Do firetrucks always have to be there when a helicopter lands?

Just some stuff that I found worth saying... :D

FM258 - May 13, 2006 06:08 PM (GMT)
Excellent job Capt. [salute]

The overwhelming number of 'coincidences' is staggering, and makes you wonder how there could be so many people who ignore them all. We are certainly changing that, aren't we? :)

Truth destroys lies and deceit, its not even a fair fight. [box]

Creeper - May 13, 2006 11:35 PM (GMT)
Nice find. Very interesting read.

ecored65 - May 14, 2006 08:06 PM (GMT)
It says in LC2E that an ex navy pilot joined in a small test to see what would happen if a 757 hit the pentagon (i cant remember the pilots name) then it says a while after that he retires to take a job at american airlines where less then a year later his 757 slams into the only part of the pentagon that was renavated. thats a huge coincedence. :huh: I bet he crashed the plane into the pentagon for research because it also said they wanted to crash a real plane in the pentagon for research or something like that but it denied due being unethical (did i spell that right?)

jphudy - June 6, 2006 01:41 AM (GMT)
When the pentagon was re-built, was it re-built as an extra-fortified section as it was before? Or, was it rebuilt the same as the remainder of the pentagon. Have any of the remaining sections of the pentagon been fortified?

Or, was it just that one section, for just that brief period of time.

Another thing, has anyone attempted any of the impacts using microsoft flight simulator? IMO, it's supposed to be a pretty realistic metric of the real thing. Can anyone attempt to fly the same type of aircraft into the pentagon using the same tradjectory and have it recorded.

First, can someone actually do this? Second.... we'll, please, just answer me the first one!!

Killtown - June 6, 2006 01:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (jphudy @ Jun 6 2006, 01:41 AM)
When the pentagon was re-built, was it re-built as an extra-fortified section as it was before?  Or, was it rebuilt the same as the remainder of the pentagon.  Have any of the remaining sections of the pentagon been fortified? 

Or, was it just that one section, for just that brief period of time.

Another thing, has anyone attempted any of the impacts using microsoft flight simulator?  IMO, it's supposed to be a pretty realistic metric of the real thing.  Can anyone attempt to fly the same type of aircraft into the pentagon using the same tradjectory and have it recorded. 

First, can someone actually do this?  Second.... we'll, please, just answer me the first one!!

Hey jp,

I'm pretty sure none of the other sections has ever been retrofitted.

About attempting to hit the Pentagon, check this out...

chucksheen - June 6, 2006 02:14 AM (GMT)
Also check here: and watch Pentagon Strike

jphudy - June 6, 2006 11:19 AM (GMT)

I love the contest. We need one with a large cash prize to the winner that actually follows the flight path.

I'd be willing to put up some of my own cash to fund the contest. I'm sure there would be lots of others, too. I would not be surprised if we could raise close to $100k. Maybe we could get some high rollers to put up some $$.

Anyway, the rules could state that there are some waypoints that must be hit (within a close specified tolerance) which would cause the airplane to take the very route as it supposedly happened. A contestant must use the same plane and hit in the same location.

Do these flight simulators have a method of recording the flights? I would imagine so.

Think how many people would try this if there was $1m to offer. It could get absolutely HUGE publicity! This is right up the alley of we American's! What could be better to get the word out than a reality based contest with $1m at stake. It's incredible!

Anyway, I still don't know about the specifications on the rebuild. I'd be willing to bet that it was not built reinforced as it once was. -Sick!

ThomasW182 - June 7, 2006 12:40 AM (GMT)
If it WAS a Boeing wouldnt the guy that jumped prone on the ground be dead? (That would mean it would have to have been a missile)
Also, notice how Evey tries to avoid answering the reporter's question.

Q: One thing that's confusing -- if it came in the way you described, at an angle, why then are not the wings outside? I mean, the wings would have shorn off. The tail would have shorn off. And yet there's apparently no evidence of the aircraft outside the E ring.

Evey: Actually, there's considerable evidence of the aircraft outside the E ring. It's just not very visible. When you get up close -- actually, one of my people happened to be walking on this sidewalk and was right about here as the aircraft approached. It came in. It clipped a couple of light poles on the way in. He happened to hear this terrible noise behind him, looked back, and he actually -- he's a Vietnam veteran -- jumped prone onto the ground so the aircraft would not actually -- he thinks it (would have) hit him; it was that low.

On its way in, the wing clipped. Our guess is an engine clipped a generator. We had an emergency temporary generator to provide life-safety emergency electrical power, should the power go off in the building. The wing actually clipped that generator, and portions of it broke off. There are other parts of the plane that are scattered about outside the building. None of those parts are very large, however. You don't see big pieces of the airplane sitting there extending up into the air. But there are many small pieces. And the few larger pieces there look like they are veins out of the aircraft engine. They're circular.

Q: Would you say that the plane, since it had a lot of fuel on it at the impact, and the fact that there are very small pieces, virtually exploded in flames when it tore into the building? I mean, since there are not large pieces of the wings laying outside, did it virtually explode?

Evey: I didn't see it. My people who did see it enter the building describe it as entering the building and then there being flames coming out immediately afterwards. Whether you describe it as an explosion or not, people I talk to who were there, some called it an explosion. Others called it a large fire. I'm not sure. I wasn't there, sir. It's just a guess on my part.

Q: Is there anything about --

Evey: Could I keep on going through the briefing? And I'll answer questions at the end, if I may. And I'll stay and I'll answer any of your questions you want. I'll answer, okay?

dv8 - June 7, 2006 02:54 AM (GMT)
Sounds like he dosnt really know what happened and just trying to BS his way through it, or just sticking to an already prepared script of answers. Hmmm, me thinks the latter.

Searcher - July 7, 2006 03:54 PM (GMT)
I was surprised at how large trhe budget for rebuilding the Petagon section that was hit on 9-11. The initial contract was $145 million and it was rumoured that the total bill would run to "hundreds of millions". The section of the Pentagon that the thing hit had just had nearly $300 millio spent on it.

These are quite big amounts of cash...

Killtown - July 8, 2006 01:16 AM (GMT)
Look how fast they signed a new contract to rebuild:

"Mitchell: And now Secretary Clarke, four days later as the efforts there continue, describe that for us.
Clarke: Well, as a matter of fact just a little while ago we were talking about, we had a briefing here in the Pentagon briefing room and we announced that we've already signed a contract with the folks who are going to begin to repair the damage that was done and start the repairs." - DoD (09/15/01)

and here's the estimate:

"Luck — if it can be called that — had it that the terrorists aimed the Boeing 757 at the only part of the Pentagon that already had been renovated in an 11-year, $1.3 billion project meant to bolster it against attack. That significantly limited the damage and loss of life by slowing the plane as it tore through the building and reducing the explosion's reach."
"The reconstruction is expected to cost over $700 million and take until spring 2003." - USA Today (1/01/02)

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