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TorontoEye - May 1, 2006 09:48 PM (GMT)
Okay I have known that 9/11 was an inside job for a long time know. But, still one thing I can't understand is why would the Govt do this. They lost tonnes of money from this didn't they?

I'm only 15 so if anyone has how much money they lost and how much they have gained (wars, insurance) and stand to gain (oil) I'd greatly appreciate it.

FinalStrike - May 1, 2006 09:51 PM (GMT)
click the link in my sig and theres two great videos there that will explain everything.

if you want i could summerise it for you. but its better to watch a video with physical evidence dessemination like truth and lies of 911 for yourself(in my sig)

LondonEye - May 1, 2006 09:52 PM (GMT)
Hey krumpky :D

Welcome to the forum [salute]

Why... now that's a question...

I'll answer it in one word... "GREED"

You'll find more info about why in the Qui Bono section

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...hp?showforum=10

Sadly there are some really rotten apples.

All the best

LondonEye
[thumbsup]

Robo - May 1, 2006 09:54 PM (GMT)
The short answer is that the "government" is not a person that loses money. When war happens, some people make tons of money, and the taxpayers have to pay the bills. So it's one way of transferring wealth from the many to the few. There are multiple motivations involved however, but greed and power are the main factors.

Zor - May 1, 2006 09:55 PM (GMT)
There was a giant list posted a while back. Think they are working on a search function. After the cold war ended the straussian neocons needed a new enemy so they contrived one, to keep the military industrial complex going, and implement their policies abroad with the war machine.

Pipeline through afghanistan to carry oil from the caspian basin to the arabian sea. 11-12 trillion dollars worth of it.

Control of Iraq's oil.

Increased defense spending 400 billion + anually atm

Destroying the rights and liberties of America with the UNpatriot act. Police state.

Im just scratching the surface.

TorontoEye - May 1, 2006 10:09 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the welcome guys. I will read those links when that you provided. I'm really glad I found this site because, I need to fight for the truth.

FinalStrike - May 1, 2006 10:22 PM (GMT)
its the influx of natural resources that come into the country that gets the paper money printed. and the federal reserve can print as much as they want- which YOU pay tax on!! hahahahaha

then money generated inside america is secondary wealth- apart from agriculture and mining.

GOLD is cheif after OIL for obvious reasons.

wedding rings- adornment and the cost of making it without hightech equipment. its that cost that gives its value and its sought after effect.

whoever controls the gold and its facilities for manufacture, extraction, forming it into adornments and separation from ores- control's policy of a nation or region.

George HW bush is a director of a company called barrick that has found a huge gold cache on the andean/chillian border- estimated 40 billion+ as a conservative guess.

barrick has completely destroyed untire regions of countries and are about to destroy three vital glaciers to get to that gold and flood the peoples rivers with 90% cyanide and arsenic.

the "leftwing" officials are getting paid off for passing legislation that will let the company destroy the surrounding land and its climate produced by the glaciers and take out 40 billion in sovreign wealth and give the people only $17 MILLION [hmm]

so who said gold is not sought after.

another reason why many jews control everything maybe becuase they have vast deposits and the best buisness in all precious stones and gold.

not PAPER MONEY. which cant ultimatly truly define ultimate power.


though never fret- there ARE alternitives to this current idea of trade.

mo fiya - May 1, 2006 11:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (krumpky @ May 1 2006, 05:09 PM)
Thanks for the welcome guys. I will read those links when that you provided. I'm really glad I found this site because, I need to fight for the truth.

your the man krumpky!

TigersFan13x - May 3, 2006 02:01 AM (GMT)
Hey, I just watched loose change and I couldnt believe it. The only thing that it didn't explain that I would like to know are the reasons that the government might do this. Thanks for opening up my eyes to the evil thing that happened and thanks for anyone who can answer my question.

DJLegacy2k1 - May 3, 2006 02:04 AM (GMT)
Money

Backing For Middle East Takeover

Reason to pass the (un)Patriot Act

Create "Homeland Security"

The use of 9/11 to say and do anything they want

Good way to start moving towards the New World Order

Allows them to turn the US closer to a police state

Just to name a few...

Search the site, you'll find TONS of info not even scratched in Loose Change [cheers]

Also watch 911 eyewitness....

LondonEye - May 3, 2006 02:04 AM (GMT)
Hey TF13 :D Welcome to the forums [salute]

Check out the "who benefits" section or Qui Bono ?

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...hp?showforum=10

Just have a browse around the other forums (check pinned topics), there's a lot to take in.

All the best

LondonEye
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Conspiracy - May 3, 2006 02:07 AM (GMT)
What has happened since 9/11 and how many things have been done in the name of 9/11?

-War in the Middle East
-The Patriot Act
-Homeland Security Act
-Ambolishing freedoms
-Oil
-Oil
-Oil
-Did I mention oil?

More articles:

http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/legislation/hsa.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/executive/index.html

popol vuh - May 3, 2006 02:11 AM (GMT)
Why would anyone do it?

Now that you've opened your mind to the possibility that SOME people not only would but could, you only need ask yourself 'who benefits'?

That's the key.

There are bad people all over, it isn't restricted to a nationality, race, religion or political party.

Who benefits?

Agent Orange - May 3, 2006 02:12 AM (GMT)

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Badmachine - May 3, 2006 02:14 AM (GMT)
To justify an inavasion of the middle east and possibly elsewhere, to secure oil for the U.S. Empire.

Oil is running out.

Global powers are scrambling to secure what reserves remain.

Oil is power.

The war on terror is a war for oil in disguise.

All of the targets in the war on terror have one thing in common - oil.

This so called war on terror would never have happened without 9/11.

And the Patriot Act is a management tool that will be utilized to manage the U.S. population during an ongoing economic decline or even more sudden collapse due to shrinking energy reserves.

The Patriot Act was already apparently under construction prior to 9/11.

TigersFan13x - May 3, 2006 02:14 AM (GMT)
Thanks a lot guys.

LondonEye - May 3, 2006 02:46 AM (GMT)
I would just like to add who did not benefit...

The real Islamic Fundamentalists, who were from many different Islamic nations and who attended the military training camps in Afghanistan.

This group who supposedly collaborated with OBL to commit the 9/11 attacks were wiped out within weeks of the invasion.

All the best with your research.

LondonEye
[thumbsup]

mo fiya - May 3, 2006 03:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TigersFan13x @ May 2 2006, 09:14 PM)
Thanks a lot guys.

no problem. detroit tigers or LSU tigers?

chucksheen - May 3, 2006 03:53 AM (GMT)
My favs of the day:

Pentagon Strike

Thank You Stephen Colbert


911 University

These are short and sweet. Stephen should empower everyone to raise hell. (thats why I like these links)

TigersFan13x - May 3, 2006 05:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mo fiya @ May 3 2006, 03:02 AM)
QUOTE (TigersFan13x @ May 2 2006, 09:14 PM)
Thanks a lot guys.

no problem. detroit tigers or LSU tigers?

Deroit Tigers

Pasqualle - May 3, 2006 09:23 PM (GMT)
An interesting website that displays how 9/11 was part of a much bigger picture is www.copvcia.com. This guy proves the government was behind the attacks not by arguing about the obvious violations of the laws of physics, but by showing the ultimate motives, the means, and the opportunity of that day. Very good source if you ask me.

Bon Appetite

Pasqualle [thumbsup]

everec - May 3, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
sticky? [whistle]

peteLI - May 3, 2006 11:10 PM (GMT)
No one has mentioned that the WTC buildings were filled with asbestos and there were lots of warnings from the state health departments or whoever it is that checks those things, and this was a convinient way to rebuild the entire complex, asbestos free.

Not a HUGE motive, but it most definitely is a motive.

garandhero - May 4, 2006 01:08 AM (GMT)
I think this answer is easy, all you need to do is ask the right question.

What could be gained from the most public and vulgar attack on America?

I wonder how many people actually realise that attacking the world trade center is easily the most public display to really hit home, this could have been done easier on a military base or something but it wouldnt have the same effect on the people, the real reason it was the WTC was to put the fear into people, to make it seem like terrorism isnt distanced, hit the heart of the american people.

directearnings - May 4, 2006 02:56 AM (GMT)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...d=696826959&n=2


warning.. some parts are graphic yet powerful. not for weak minds

chucksheen - May 4, 2006 03:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Pasqualle @ May 3 2006, 02:23 PM)
An interesting website that displays how 9/11 was part of a much bigger picture is www.copvcia.com. This guy proves the government was behind the attacks not by arguing about the obvious violations of the laws of physics, but by showing the ultimate motives, the means, and the opportunity of that day. Very good source if you ask me.

Bon Appetite

Pasqualle [thumbsup]

Diatribe - May 4, 2006 03:45 AM (GMT)
Money, Oil, and the excuse to invade Iraq, Iran, etc.... FOR MORE OIL! Bush is a greedy bastard. Isn't much different from his dad.

directearnings - May 4, 2006 03:54 AM (GMT)
that mike rupport vs. corruption link is AMAZING!!

mo fiya - May 4, 2006 11:42 PM (GMT)
a lot of people don't want to hear about what the government could have gained by doing this. the most staunch non believers need the real physical evidence to be persuaded. money, greed, oil, power, means nothing to the hardcore sheep. in fact, a lot of them will even admit that they know the government is corrupt, yet they STILL won't concede to an inside job on 9/11. which tells me they just don't WANT to believe it.

clanabis - May 5, 2006 12:02 AM (GMT)
DEEEEEEtroit! Welcome bro!


Tell all your friends, don't be shy. You will be suprised how receptive people are if you present what you know to them. Just take it slow and work them into it, show them Loose Change.

Pasqualle - May 5, 2006 12:12 AM (GMT)
Mike Ruppert is the man. I mean, in that video, he basically gives the motive, the means, and the opportunity for 9/11. I think I'm going to get his 9/11 book Crossing the Rubicon.

Regards

Pasqualle [thumbsup]

TruthHurts - May 5, 2006 01:16 AM (GMT)
Tigers fan, I love the name. [cheers]

NYPD219 - May 5, 2006 10:28 AM (GMT)
Governments have proven in history, time and time again, that they will do anything to insure their agenda is carried out, whatever that agenda may be.

You ask why a government would do this? Because they can, and people are stupid enough to be whipped up into a patriotic frenzy and believe every word they hear, without thinking for themeslves.

TheTruth - May 5, 2006 11:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (NYPD219 @ May 5 2006, 10:28 AM)
Governments have proven in history, time and time again, that they will do anything to insure their agenda is carried out, whatever that agenda may be.

You ask why a government would do this? Because they can, and people are stupid enough to be whipped up into a patriotic frenzy and believe every word they hear, without thinking for themeslves.

You're absolutely right. [thumbsup]

MichaelMR - May 5, 2006 02:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TigersFan13x @ May 3 2006, 02:01 AM)
Hey, I just watched loose change and I couldnt believe it. The only thing that it didn't explain that I would like to know are the reasons that the government might do this. Thanks for opening up my eyes to the evil thing that happened and thanks for anyone who can answer my question.

I think the answer lies in the question. Why would the government, who has nothing to gain, do this? I think people are looking at the face of the problem and not the underlying cause. I'll try to use a similar reference and I think you'll see what I mean. When Castro rose to power, why did our government want to screw with him? I honestly don't believe it was our government, they are just a tool. He practically made the place better than it was compared to the previous dictator. But yet, we wanted him out. Why? The government, in my honest opinion, does not run America. We, the people, do not run America. This is a place ran by private bankers. Why is the Federal Reserve ran by private bankers? The place that funds our wars and all, why isn't the government the sole holder of all assets that pertain to these things? Just like in Cuba before Castro, it was ran by those same bankers who drained that country of it's wealth.

Now, at that time, wasn't Kennedy the president? If you remember him, he was assassinated by CIA trained personnel who were originally supposed to target Castro. Why? Because he didn't agree with what was happening. When America had made the threat to Russia about supplying Cuba, that ship had already crossed that part and almost ignited nuclear warfare. JFK was pressed up to his balls to attack Russia, yet he didn't want to engage in a nuclear war with Russia. For that, he tried to reform the CIA by firing certain people. And by doing that, he stepped on the toes of the boys behind the scenes which led to him being assassinated. This video is very educating to learn about the "underlying cause" that I keep mentioning. It's also an eye opener on the JFK case.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=74...=JFK+conspiracy

Now, similar to this, why the hell are we in Iraq? Does it benefit the American people? No. The government? No. The money laundering whores that fund the war efforts and expect interest on the repayment? Yes. Why is America going after countries like Iran, Venezuela and Korea? These guys run themselves. No one has them by the balls and this is the sole reason why those countries are being pressured. This is what you call "World Domination."

Now, ask your topic question to yourself.. "Why would the government do this?"

It's all about money, my friend, it always has been. Please watch this, everyone.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...Masters&pl=true

slowtyperdave - May 6, 2006 02:19 AM (GMT)
If the motives are money , war , new world order etc.. then why didnt they find wmd's in Iraq? Remember they control the press ..right?

this_website_is_BULL - May 6, 2006 03:34 AM (GMT)
MY GOD IF WE WANTED OIL WE CULDVE JUST STROLLED RIGHT INTO ANY COUNTRY THAT HAD SOME WE R THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON THE PLANET IF WE WANT SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE IT ITS JUST A MATTER OF HAVING THE GUTS TO DO IT

hdog - May 6, 2006 03:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (slowtyperdave @ May 6 2006, 02:19 AM)
If the motives are money , war , new world order etc.. then why didnt they find wmd's in Iraq? Remember they control the press ..right?

We didn't plant WMD's because we wanted to further enflame the Muslim world.

e-dog - May 6, 2006 11:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
MY GOD IF WE WANTED OIL WE CULDVE JUST STROLLED RIGHT INTO ANY COUNTRY THAT HAD SOME WE R THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY ON THE PLANET IF WE WANT SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE IT ITS JUST A MATTER OF HAVING THE GUTS TO DO IT



i don't think that's quite true... if the US'd do that ppl would start to hate "the great/fair united states" and a lot of countries would start a war with the us.

and about the US being the strongest country in the world...... did u forget china?.. china is pretty strong.

josephborden - May 6, 2006 11:50 AM (GMT)
R we rlly the mst pwfl cuntry on t plnt?

In terms of Newcleeur weapons, or say subduing an insurgency of a few thousand Iraqis who refuse to buy into the Program?

JBR [salute]




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