I was just wondering what people on here think of Michael Moore. I personally cant stand the fact that some people try to associate people that stand by this film with him. But i was in a debate with someone and he associated me with Moore so I said to him that most people that stand by this film think that Moore is just as much of a propagandist as our government is. He said "i dont believe that at all unless you can prove it to me". Am I right? Or was I mistaken and poeple that stand by this film agree with the stuff that Moore has said?

I agree with several of the things Michael Moore says.

But i liked him more in the early 90´s. Around the time he made "The Big One"

Its like it just turned bad at one point and overpowered him.

He will come around as well.... :)

Micheal Moore doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Anyone who associates this fim with Moore has a lot of homework to do.

You think his ass would fit into the hole in Shanksville?

Then we can associate this film with him. :D

Let me Join in...


Question(s) where do all of these bush bashers, left leaning, democrates fit in?

I mean Mike Moore is a "Soft Serve Cone" he had to have come across the real facts on 9/11 when he made his film F-9/11... they REAL facts are not that hard to find....


What is it with these Big Talking Head Public Speakers.... are they just fearful "COWARDS" that fear bush and the boys....They are always playing "softball" with bush and crew, they never play hardball, i don't get it!!!

I once ran into Moore for real at the Al Franken Forum, where a 9/11 debate was ensuing. Most jumped on this guy, with an avatar of Moor, and the name Michael Moore claiming to be him, demanding proof that he really was himself, and upon leaving he left the evidence, by altering something on his website, based on something he said, so it WAS him. I laughed my ass off at those Franken losers, before they banned us, and dumped the 9/11 threads into their "crapper". What was REALLY amuzing, is that after chasing away MM, and "dumping" our hard worked for threads on 9/11, "the crapper" immediately became THE most popular area of their Forums by a long shot! Oh those were the days.. :lol:

Anyway, I asked him some things, and he seemed to totally accept that the buildings could NOT have come down as we were told according to the official story, but he could NOT accept the idea of remotely piloted swapped drones. He actually seemed like a bit of a newbie to it all, but that was about a year ago now, or a litte more than that even. It appeared that he was interested in the topic and was sort of half LIHOP half MIHOP, but was otherwise content to sit around, eat, and play pocker with his buddies. He was blaze about it, and didn't really care all that much. He's just a self serving democrat who did ONE good Doc "Bowling for Columbine" which wasn't even all THAT good, in reality. He did well making the docmentary genre a mainstream form of entertainment though, and broke some ground there, and now he's rich and doesn't give a shit.

We won't be seeing a true 9/11 documentary coming from him I don't think, not until he's eaten Taco Bell out of business and that could take a while...

One cannot take Michael Moore seriously. A little research into how he made his Columbine movie will tell you why.

Loose Change / LC2E asks questions to which we've never been given answers.

Michael Moore edits out relevant info, splices multiple footages to seem like one, and then lobs accusations based on his preposterous conclusions. He invents 'facts' to suit his needs, and ultimately it does not appear that he has any self-restraint. He makes arguments out of nothing while ignoring relevant issues that should be pressed.

In fact he lies so much that one must wonder if he is not a paid gov't shill. Also, it makes you scratch your head upon learning that a not-for-profit company he started owns stock in Halliburton....when you invest in the people you claim to be fighting...what does that mean? Conflict of interest to say the least. Sure, he isnt running the organization, but the fact remains his organization helps people make movies with Halliburton's profits. Call me silly but that bothers me.

Furthermore, he doesn't answer critics. He ridicules them. He is not constructive to any argument. He simply throws a pile of shit against the wall, and if some of sticks, he's a happy man.

Bowling for Columbine deconstructed

So yeah, if Dylan Avery ever took this route, he too would be ostracized by his supporters, just as Michael Moore has been. Fortunately, Dylan has shown an ability to simply asks the questions that need to be asked.

I never saw Moores DOC. At the time Mike Moore's 9/11 documentry came out, i was believing the official story. I heard his doc got teared up, and everything he said got proven wrong. They even made a FeirenHYPE 9/11 documentry (you could find that sitting right next to Feirenheit 9/11 at the store) and the next thing you know EVERYONE in my town hates mike moore (even me) and wants him dead. It was at the time of the presidential election. It only made the official story of 9/11 seem THAT more believable. everyone starting believing Bush after Moores pointless accusations and Bush wins again.

Now I hear Moore's documentry sucked, left out IMPORTANT information that can easily be found through research, and lost alot of supporters. The documentry should of been called 'After Watching This Dumbshyt, Dont Believe In Anymore 9/11 Conspiracies' Now you have people teaching people not to believe in conspiracies. Most of the time GOOD documentrys like Loose Change will be easily discarded because of half-assed conspiracies in the past.

I wouldnt be surprised if Mike Moore was paid to make a shytty doc. I mean why would anyone listen to ANYTHING that fatass has to say? Especially when it sucks. It only helped to win Bush supporters.

Well hold on now....Most of Moore's 9/11 film was based on the work of Greg Palast. Greg Palast is the real deal, for the most part. He could be considered a "leftist" if we started splitting hairs on the trivial issues but his reporting is spot on, by and large. Moore just parrots all his stuff.

Moore gets a lot of things right but in the end he believes the Dems will save us. He's a typical commie....

NOW...


FahrenHYPE 9/11 is CRAP....I could sit and have a conversation with Moore. It would be a heated conversation but Ron Silver, Anne Coulter, Dick Morris, Zell Miller and Rep. Peter "We'll Take Care of the Counting" Green????? Those pukes are the biggest bootlickers around... <_<

Well, I am glad to see my assumtions were not so unfounded. Thanks for the input guys and gals.

Moore deserves a lot of credit for exposing the Saudi relationship with the Bush's. Questioning Bush's military service. Catching some of the lies of the administration. Showing us some film we probably would not have seen otherwise. Trying to alert the public that Iraq had nothing to do with 911, and exposed the admin lying about it.

Sure, that's not the whole picture, but it's about a quarter of it, and I don't recall anybody else having the balls to do that back then. Do you?

Sure he's a dem/liberal whatever, but he's part of the base that should be most easiest to convert to this cause/investigation. Anyone who already knows the Bush's are criminals and so is their administration is already half way there. It's the hard core religious right that are going to be near impossible to wake up.

I don't think trashing on Liberals that try to expose part of the Bush's corruptness is a great stradegy.

Also...if he had included the stuff you guys are slamming him for leaving out, there is absolutely no chance his movie would ever have been made. Ever.

I understand and agree. He was pretty much the one person who got the ball rolling. I wasn't really bashing him but i dont really think he is in the same frame of mind we are. I may be wrong.

I would agree with your statement. I just want to make sure that the Moore bashing doesnt get too carried away. He was sporting his balls long before anyone elses dropped. :D

Agreed. Michael Moore re-invented the documentary with flair. (how many pieces...?) he is neither Jesus, nor the anti-christ, of a political movement.

with F9/11 he brought to the big screen a HUGE number of untouched (by MSM) stories regarding financial connections between the Bushes, the house of Saud, bin ladens, James Bath... the 20 minutes of Pet Goat...

sure, it was a propaganda hit piece -- but it gave us news stories that America would NEVER see elsewhere.

Personally, i hate that fat prick..

He makes interesting points sometimes, but I don't like his tact at all, or lack thereof.

No he really doesn't.

Alex exposed everything and more in "9/11: The Road to Tyranny" long before F9/11 was even a thought. Michael only made the movie after seeing what Alex had presented and used his reputation to get out the word on a more grand scale. He basically took all the information Alex and various others had uncovered, stated it a bit differently, presented it as if he was the one that found all the information first, and then cashed in on his ability to bring it to the big screen.

Sure it's great that F9/11 was hyped. It made people want to see it and brought these issues out in the more mainstream. It has helped to awaken the sheeple of this world a bit; but, the information Moore presented certainly wasn't unique or original in any way shape or form.

His film was compelling watching, it wasn't, however, a groundbreaking expose into the "truth" of that day.

Moore is a flawed guy. Look at him for God's sake, does that look like a healthy, happy man? He's troubled and his troubled soul looks for things to obsess over and because he has talent, the result is sometimes worth watching, but often it is simply a mirror into his troubled soul.

His work reminds me of Francis Bacon's paintings.

Yeah his tact is mostly that of emotion. Thats why I said I dont think he is in the same frame of mind. Here we seem to be more concerned with FACT than anthing else. And also facts really hold up better :lol:

Don't you think Alex gets a little bit carried away man? He wants credit for F911? Okay, well maybe Alex should make his own and include his theories on "the greys" and how the aliens are amoungst us. Come on! I know the guy is great entertainment sometimes, but...he's no more accurate than Moore. For every propaganda piece Moore does, Alex goes so far off the wall that he makes conspiracy theorists look bad. Like it or not, that's the facts. Personally, I think they both have value, but I wouldn't listen to either without a grain of salt and a pinch of common sense. :D

This is what it must have been like back in the 70s with the "Old Guard" at the Washington Post and The New York Times. Look at how much things have slipped in the mainstream US media since then. Independent sources and Documentarians are what the American people rely on to get some proper news coverage. :(

I personally like both Moore and Jones, and think they have inspired a host of individuals with their past work. I swear, since Dubya and the Neo-Cons came to power 5 years ago, documentaries have become more important than ever. For fucks sake, some of these films have proven to be more entertaining, dramatic and funny than around 80% of productions currently being churned out in Hollywood and the "Independent" movie sector.

My only problem with Alex Jones, apart from the crazy guy rep, is the fact that I can't find the time to go through all his extremely detailed films. Hey, can anyone tell me which Alex Jones films are essential viewing?. Think of it as if you are recommending his greatest ever conspiracy knockout punches. Thanks!

Despite some obvious characteristic Michael Moore flaws, Bowling for Columbine is still by far the best "film" I saw in 2002. He's definately gonna win his second Academy Award for his upcoming expose "Sicko" at next years Oscars. That can only be a good thing, regardless of your personal opinion of the guys methods and personality.

wahouuuuuu ...

In france we don't have any one who could disturb our opinion like him and before him like it is says by someone here (the one who have a Gimli as avatar ;) ). Perhaps he is not as acute as other documents, perhaps we see him too much on his own works, BUT he as to be seen as a primar soucre before being shoking by the other document you'll can find on the web ...

I don't see LC2E as a first movie to see, I think that in order to be fully understood you can pass without any 'shame one you' opinions by some movies of MM.

I talk for France OK ..
But the must relevant movie festival here (Canne) as reward him for F911. And it deals with (I hope it is true) a new 'open yours eyes' movement here. A first shock (even if it is not as true as it is presented to us !).

After that I ask my friend to see some Noam Chomsky movie like "power and Terror", and read his books.

After that, the chicken is almost cooken, I tell the to see "The corporation" (with subtitles ;) )

And after that as the brightest end of Lunch I served them LC2E and "In Plane Site". I can guarantee you that it's a very interresting thing to perfom it that way.

If you don't pass by step the only answer you will receive here (Mostly) will be "Bullshit !!!"

PS: I agree to think that "The Big One" is perhaps his best movie. But don't sous-estimate he impact he have on the blind ones here (and in other countries) because you perhaps will sus-estimate you proper impact also.

I barely have the guts to post this one, but um...

I .. you know.. kind of like.. thought Bowling was very interesting...

He doesn't want credit for F911...he gets it no matter what. Look at the copyright dates for each film. His was out there months before F911. I think it's plainly obvious, to those that have viewed both films, that Michael Moore wouldn't of even of made F911 without the knowledge he picked up from 911RTT.

I'm sorry you've been a bit jaded by your few experiences with Alex. If you're making comments regarding him being concerned with "the greys" and "aliens" then you obviously don't know what he's about at all. I think you may be confusing him with David Icke. Alex repeatedly chews up and spits out the alien bullshit. How you've grouped him with these others is beyond me?

Sure he gets a bit carried away but you too would be a bit cynical by now if you had been attempting to expose the Global Elite since 1993. The guy has been working on this shit a lot longer than most people I've researched so I feel he has a right, more than anyone, to get carried away like he does. He's frustrated. Pretty understandable if you had been dealing with mass ignorance for over a decade.

The real concern I have is that you're still labeling people as "conspiracy theorists". Unless you're referring to them in the true Latin root of the word "conspirare", you continue to benefit the Elite by reciting that tripe of a label.

Care to elaborate?

RoxDog...


Alex Jones I like the Guy I go to his site everyday...he is really the one who caused me to dig deep on this stuff and take nobodys word for anything, when it comes to the REAL NEWS...With that said you ask for examples about alex credibility

Is Alex Jones Credible.... You Bet...there are times when he trys real hard to make "A STORY" when there is nothing there....

1. He ran a story that bush worships the devil because he flashes the Texas Long Horns school sign......everbody that attends that school does that, you know the little fringer and the index finger in the air.... that's a real stretch.......

2. He ran a story on Pat Robertson the Christian about him praying to demons/devil....he (jones) even altered Robertson's voice to make it sound demonic........Really Stupid Sh*t

3. He had a headline on his web site about Katrina....... "68,000 Katrina victums held against there will at the superdome like a prison camp"..... BULL SH*T again

4. And Recently would not let the vp shooting accident go away, had police reports and the vp did this ,and the vp did not do this, and the vp, and the vp, and the vp, and the vp.......Alex give it a rest....it was a hunting accident they happen all the time in Texas....maybe not the way the vp said, right or wrong....but at the end of the day it was an accident.....


In all above i have e-mailed Alex Jones and let him know he should be careful not to ADD to the FACTS.....then it becomes like Jerry Springer TV or Tabilod Reporting, Sensationalism...... Hell it sells we all know that.....but in this Serious Sh*T ( President Kills 3,000 of his Own People) there is no Room for it....Period.... Credibility has to be established, maintained, and presented at all times...no matter if it is Big or Little News....


There is always going to be those that defend a person even when, they know that person is out of line, Look at the way Rush and Sean defend bush... I for one am not one of those.... if I think it was stupid I will let you know

2 Cents Worth

Can't really argue with this one except that europe was up in arms over it while it was blacked out here. Why would he do that knowing the world is watching?

Alex Jones didn't make that video. He just played it on his show. And that was pretty damn wierd seeing as it happened just after he (Robertson) defended biometrics. Then he claimed to heal a man by praying about it. I think the "really stupid sh^t" award should be reserved for Robertson on that one. Also, Robertson has a history of flashing Masonic hand symbols.

Really? So what about those infamous clips of Sheperd Smith and Geraldo begging to "let these people go"?

It was criminal negligence. Cheney broke the law. How is pointing that out going "off the wall".

Alex Jones has 100x the credibility of Michael Moore.

Apples and oranges but neither am I... :D

If you wish...

Alex Jones has stated on his radio show that the elite class live....forever. Literally.

Vicente Fox can morph in to a green devil.

There are live HIV viruses in....corn.

Feminism is a government plot.

Arnold Schwartzeneggar is part of an Austrian plot to take over the world.

Gays are actively recruiting in schools.

He claims to have access to the New World Orders secret websites, where he can predict the future because of the materials on them.


To name a few things that...well.....Michael Moore has more street credit period.

I like them both about the same, but...the wackiest thing Moore has ever believed is nowhere near Alex Jones deep end.

It's not an opinion on who is more entertaining, who is moore (pun intended) hated etc.

It's a fact, Jones has leant his credentials out to some wacky theories in the past.

Maybe it's just a matter of preference.

I don't think either of them are bad people. :D

I AM a conspiracy theorist :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm just saying that I personally think Michael Moore has more realistic credit than Alex Jones. Some of you feel different, but I know I'm not the only person that feels that way. PotatOE, PotAtoe...

You are parroting Perry Logan? All these quotes (directly from Perry Logan) are taken almost completely out of context.

You mean SHEEP credit.

BWahahaa....Mr. Moore's worship of government and misguided faith in the Democratic party put him far beyond Jones in the "wacky belief" department.

When? When he was 19? Why is it that people are so willing to throw out assertions without the information to back it up?

Micheal Moore is a slave to the phony right/left paradigm. Alex Jones is not.

"3. He had a headline on his web site about Katrina....... "68,000 Katrina victums held against there will at the superdome like a prison camp"..... BULL SH*T again

4. And Recently would not let the vp shooting accident go away, had police reports and the vp did this ,and the vp did not do this, and the vp, and the vp, and the vp, and the vp.......Alex give it a rest....it was a hunting accident they happen all the time in Texas....maybe not the way the vp said, right or wrong....but at the end of the day it was an accident....."

I've seen footage of "legit" reporters stating number 3, including Anderson Cooper, Geraldo Rivera and Shep Smith. They reported that anyone trying to leave had guns pointed at them and that they set up check points.

I've read that Cheney was intoxicated at the time of the crime, and frankly, there is no excuse for the Vice President to abuse his powers (for the upteenth time) to abstruct the local sherrif/police from doing a proper investigation to see if alchohol was more involved than the vice president will admit. FURTHER MORE, Jones stated that Cheney is on a prescription for blood thinner because of his heart condition, which appears to be true, and it is true what Alex said that the blood thinner could cause a person to become intoxicated off of far less alchohol than normal. I also believe his ballistic demo regarding the distance, because anyone that has ever hunted with buckshot can tell you there is no way that was 80-90 yards away. No way!

Still, I prefer Moore. :D

Who is Perry Logan? I read that from multiple places on the internet.

Here...

http://www.joplinindependent.com/comments_...perry1127928353

Here...

It's also hard to accept "scientific data" from someone who looks at everything in life from a christian perspective. Sorry if that offends anyone, but...religion and science can't belong in the same world. Either you believe Unicorns literally exist, or...you are serious about scientific research.

Here....

(I just found "Perry Logan" whom appears to be some dude posting on the internet with some of the things I read and saved, plus he lists a bunch more.)

How can you compare me to this guy, look what he says about Alex!??

"Reviewer: Perry Logan - - October 31, 2005
Subject: A delusional documentary

You absolutely can NOT believe anything Alex Jones says! Alex Jones is an extreme rightwing conspiracy nut. I know his work because I'm a fellow Austinite who sees his cable show all the time.

Just about everything in "Martial Law 9/11" has been completely disproved:
http://www.perspectives.com/forums/view_to...um_id=87&page=1

Here are some of the things Alex Jones believes. I am not making fun of Alex here; these are things he has actually said on his cable access show:

The ruling elite of the world worship Moloch.
The secret rulers of the world can live forever.
The elite have openly announced that they want to kill 80% of us.
Vicente Fox can morph into a green devil. (Alex says he saw him do it. Honest.)
The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority.
Jacques Cousteau wants to kill 80% of us. (Jacques, too!)
There are live AIDS viruses in the corn. (This means no sex with the corn. Sorry.)
91% of Americans are Nazis (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration)
The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess)
The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying "Nya-ha-ha-haa!")
The Founding Fathers were stupid (they were Masonsâ€ÂÂÂÂ
“–bu
t they didn't know about the secret conspiracy so obvious to Alex & his friends)
all our soldiers are stupid (our honored dead were mere fools compared to Alex Jones)
Waco was a government plot.
Most power outages are government plots.
Illegal immigration is a government plot.
The counterculture is a government plot.
Vaccines are a you-know-what.
Thumbscanning is a government plot.
Environmentalism is a government plot.
The National Seatbelt Initiative is a government plot.
Feminism is a government plot.
Tollroads are a government plot.
Antidepressants are a government plot.
All domestic terror attacks are government plots.
Arnold Schwartzeneggar is part of an Austrian plot to take over America.
Skull & Bones is part of an English plot to take over America.
The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.
Children's cartoons are part of a government plot to brainwash us.
The secret ruling elite of the world are putting up buildings that look like owls (only conspiracy people can see these owls, in case you were wondering)
Most major police chiefs are CIA operatives.
Gloria Steinham is a CIA operative.
The Quakers are all communists.
All of Clinton's cabinet were Jewish.
People have tattoos saying "Don't Kill Me" in Holland.
Lyndon Johnson had John Kennedy killed.
The UN has sold thousands of children into slavery & for snuff films.
Gays are actively recruiting in our schools.
The government keeps "giant, honeycombed hives full of toddlers drugged on lithium."
The Rothschilds funded Hitler.
The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority.
Vicente Fox can morph into a green devil. (Alex says he saw him do it. Honest.)
91% of Americans are Nazis (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration)
The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess. Shows you how ruthless the elite are.)
The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying "Nya-ha-ha-haa!")
The Founding Fathers were stupid (they were Masonsâ€ÂÂÂÂ
“–bu
t they didn't know about the secret conspiracy so obvious to Alex & his friends)
Every soldier who died in any war since the Civil War was a chump (you thought they were heroes; turns out they were nothing but fools; how's THAT for patriotism?)
Antidepressants are a government plot.
The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.
Mercury travels from Africa to Austin on the Jet Stream. That's why Austinites have so many allergies.
IQ's are going down. (IQ's are going up.)
The cancer rate is up. (Most cancer rates are down.)
During his inauguration, President Clinton openly gave the sign of Satan for all the world to see. (They all worship Moloch, don't forget. I don't know how we get to Satan from there...but Alex says.)
Alex Jones is saving humankind with his cable TV show, radio shows, & tapes (available for purchase, by the way).
Bad people are deliberately putting cancer viruses, AIDS viruses, & mercury in our vaccines (twirling their long moustaches & going "Nya-hahaha!").
9-11 was only the beginning; there are going to be lots of even bigger domestic attacks (4 years & waiting on this prediction, Alex).
Most Americans believe the government was behind 9-11 (this is based on Alex's misreading of a Zogby poll; Alex misreads EVERYTHING)
They sacrifice babies at Bohemian Grove. (Imagine Richard Nixon sacrificing a baby.)
They only hire people with IQ's below 100 to become police officers. (Like most "Patriots," Alex Jones is essentially a cop-hater. He will say anything bad about the police.)

Alex Jones can predict the future, because he goes to the SECRET WEBSITES where the New World Order tells you
EVERYTHING IT'S GOING TO DO.
Just think: if you can find those websites, YOU can predict the future too!"

I've never slammed him like that.

But Alex has claimed all or most of those things and the ones I pointed out are absolutely not logically a truth. That takes away from street credit in my opinion.

I'm not sure this debate is going to go anywhere good. <_<

Roxdog


I am not putting anyone down, I am not a hater...

Pat Robertson is not someone I would listen to....... or stick up for or put down.

I was pointing out that Alex put that clip on his site of Robertson sounding like satan......Alex that was some of the Dumbest SH*T I have ever seen...

Also the superdome people of Katrina, I never heard or saw one interveiw from one person that they were held against their will Like a Prison Camp....Not one

So if you want to get technicle Alex Jones was/is Lying about that or it was made up and just passed---on..... He posted to his readers without doing his home work.

I go to his site,,or this site to learn the facts and I don't give a F*CK if he (Alex) is on our team.....if is producing, passing on, or reporting SH*T, then I will let him know..... no big deal if i post something that is SH*T.... take your best shot that is part of life.....


If some one was to come to me and say Alex is a Kook, I have/will/continue to stick up for and promote him.....that is a big diifferance then saying Alex that was some stupid SH*T that's all...

Alex Jones hypes and bends the truth. Michael Moore distorts the truth (see rebuttal to Columbine)

Both guys deserve to be credited and honored with the things they got right -- and brought to the public attention. But both guys do in fact bring wrath for the way they present the stories. Niether of these guys are Moses on the Mountain.

The EXTREME always makes an impression. you can't get people to watch a documentary by making it bland BBC gruel. you NEED controversy, flash, bang, accusations, and "my Cold Dead Hands."

The movement needs shock troops, and the movement also needs doubters. There is a place at the table for everyone.

I've got a video of Shep Smith and Geraldo Rivera flipping out on Sean Hannity because he's trying to pass off the detainment of innocent victims in New Orleans by gun point as nothing big. It was on the internet in a few places, but I just noticed that it's been completely wiped off the net.

Anyone that wants it let me know and I'll either email it to you or try post it at My Space. Google Video wouldn't take it. Said it wasn't authorized or something. :D

C-Raven .....Let it go


I watched wall to wall coverage and I did not see or hear it that way... I even watched the Katrina hearings in the house of reps and not one of the wittness ever mentioned that, no food yes, no water yes, no help yes, but to held like a POW is a stretch......

Sure the national gaurd was there with guns....but think about it why hold them in the public square if you will,,, there were all these TV film stations there anyway, what would you do with them anyway? It does not make any sense...to me

Let what go? You watched wall to wall coverage but missed the most important information.




http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/02.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=46131

On another tip, when you watched the Katrina Hearings did you by chance catch this?

http://total411.info/leveehearing-sm.rm

Ballistics Tests on the Cheney Shooting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt_OjtKrMc4...ch=alex%20jones


Alex Jones Conspiracy Films and Clips

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=alex...s&search=Search



BTW, I just finished watching 2nd Edition last night......and that is NOT Osama Bin Laden on that tape. How the fuck can that shit be passed off and there is not any closer examinination in the media. Stupid Question I know, but what the fuck!

Did these dirty, lying, murderous pricks watch Die Hard 1 & 2 by any chance while they were planning the 9/11 inside job. UNDERGROUND TUNNELS AND GOLD!!! :huh:

Roxdog

My only point was that I did not see or hear of any complaints from those at the dome (people) about POW type camp....Alex made it sound that way on his site.

Never saw any footage of National gaurd stopping them from leaving...did not see any government of any type there at the dome for 4-5 days....

I never mentioned the levee's that is another story...


Alex adds unnessary context, and drama to his stories to Catch/Hook the listener to his site....just my observation------right or wrong



Let it go....