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Title: Seriously What Is Going On


pewter - October 21, 2006 05:31 PM (GMT)
Why are all of the forums shut down? Is it because Painter resigned and pointed out the very truthful fact that this forum does seem to reward offensive behavior and punish the skeptics who keep you guys on your toes and are infinitely more beneficial to you than you'd like to believe? What were you guys doing to this place for the last three days? Why can't we post?

My goodness, I think there's a CONSPIRACY or a COVER-UP going on here, folks!!!

midwestzero47240 - October 21, 2006 05:40 PM (GMT)
i noticed i can't post ANYWHERE but here for some reason

pewter - October 21, 2006 06:08 PM (GMT)
Yeah, either here or the polls forum, and also the Loose Change Second Edition forum. But not anywhere else.

I hope that the end of Loose Change: Final Cut says "we would direct you to our forum, but we don't let anybody voice their opinions on our film anymore." Not that they ever let everyone voice their opinions in the first place....

slappy33 - October 21, 2006 07:32 PM (GMT)
forum got hacked?

Barcoded - October 21, 2006 08:19 PM (GMT)
Something bad has happened to the forum and I am pretty sure it as Dylan or any truther who has done it...

mo fiya - October 21, 2006 09:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (pewter @ Oct 21 2006, 02:08 PM)
Yeah, either here or the polls forum, and also the Loose Change Second Edition forum. But not anywhere else.

I hope that the end of Loose Change: Final Cut says "we would direct you to our forum, but we don't let anybody voice their opinions on our film anymore." Not that they ever let everyone voice their opinions in the first place....

shut the f*ck up. seriously.

just move on. this board is officially closed. no one wants to be here anymore, anyway. so now is the perfect time for you to take a hike yourself.

if you're a skeptic, than f*cking go some place else. find another forum to bitch and complain at, preferably a non-9/11 truth forum, because frankly none of us truthers give 2 horse's nutsacks about what you people THINK you know about the subject. people like you killed this country. people like you are the ones who support ludicrous pieces of legislation such as the new Military Commissions Act which pretty much completes the transition of this country into a dictatorship. its pretty sad when the richest and most powerful country in the world has to change it's entire legal structure and shit on the consitution just to supposedly make the country safer. all the f*cking money that Bush has spent, and the only thing that has happened is more people have died in an illegal war. the borders are no more secure than they were before 9/11, but you people just continue to keep accepting the removal of your otherwise inalienable RIGHTS. its f*cking pathetic that the citizens of this country are so f*cking afraid for their security because the news tells them that they SHOULD be.

i hate people like you.

the LC forum is done. just shut the f*ck up about it and move on. go watch TV. there's plenty of entertaining programs to keep you busy until the f*cking cows come home.

pathetic. absolutely f*cking pathetic.

e-dog - October 21, 2006 10:12 PM (GMT)
Why dont u guys f*ck OFF, you already f*cked-up this forum by taking advantage of Dylan's "open mind".
Isn't it enough that you f*cked-up this forum?
Now u have to poison the ppls minds?

f*cking lazy ass bastard.
U ppl make me sick, U stand by, U see a dictatorship forming in ur country, u know WHO is behind all of it, u see ALL ur rights being destroyed, u and what do u do?

U go and attack the only ppl who are trying to PROTECT those rights that are being pissed away by your f*cking nazi-ass president.
All i have to say is. Either wake the f*ck up and look around you, or shoot urself thru the f*cking head.

NOW f*ck OFF AND LEAVE US ALONE!


mo fiya- I totaly agree with u m8.

bingo - October 22, 2006 03:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (pewter @ Oct 21 2006, 05:31 PM)
Why are all of the forums shut down?  Is it because Painter resigned and pointed out the very truthful fact that this forum does seem to reward offensive behavior and punish the skeptics who keep you guys on your toes and are infinitely more beneficial to you than you'd like to believe?  What were you guys doing to this place for the last three days?  Why can't we post?

My goodness, I think there's a CONSPIRACY or a COVER-UP going on here, folks!!!

It's because the 9/11 truth movement has sold out to the enemy and everyone left. I agree.

There's only so much punishment that the skeptics who use reason can endure without giving up.

pewter - October 22, 2006 05:29 AM (GMT)
And what makes you think that I support this president and support everything he's doing? I'm a true liberal and would like nothing better than to see Bush out of office, but at the same time, I have done plenty of research on my own and have even started up my own blog on the issue, and all facts point me to the conclusion that this cannot possibly be a cover-up. I've posted my reasons in other forums.

It appears that Dylan put this forum on lockdown, mainly because there appear to be people who run rampant with emotion and forget to use facts when making their arguments. So, they immediately jump to false assumptions, like assuming that anyone who is a skeptic is doing so because they're blindly supporting this administration. I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to support Bush or the actions of our government, but I'm doing so because I'm arguing on behalf of an opinion that I believe to be true.

Of course, I don't know exactly what Dylan did. But why is it that the leader of the Truth Movement appears to be turning his back on his supporters? The answer to that question is probably a lot more important than you think.

pewter - October 22, 2006 05:39 AM (GMT)
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if you're a skeptic, than f*cking go some place else. find another forum to bitch and complain at, preferably a non-9/11 truth forum, because frankly none of us truthers give 2 horse's nutsacks about what you people THINK you know about the subject. people like you killed this country. people like you are the ones who support ludicrous pieces of legislation such as the new Military Commissions Act which pretty much completes the transition of this country into a dictatorship. its pretty sad when the richest and most powerful country in the world has to change it's entire legal structure and shit on the consitution just to supposedly make the country safer. all the f*cking money that Bush has spent, and the only thing that has happened is more people have died in an illegal war. the borders are no more secure than they were before 9/11, but you people just continue to keep accepting the removal of your otherwise inalienable RIGHTS. its f*cking pathetic that the citizens of this country are so f*cking afraid for their security because the news tells them that they SHOULD be.


Wow! Now that's quite the rant you've put together!

Why is it so surprising to you that people would want to hurt the richest and most powerful country in the world? Imagine you're a poor citizen in a poor country, surrounded by people who are poor and could never hope to achieve the affluence that we all take for granted. When we take an isolationist viewpoint to the world and keep all of our money and resources for ourselves rather than giving them to countries who need it, why shouldn't we expect the citizens of this country to resent us? Why can't they resent us to the point where they'd want to seriously hurt us, teach us a lesson on what it's like to have a war on our own soil, and possibly hijack some planes and attack important symbols of our country to really scare the hell out of us?

Seriously, do you have a better idea on how we can protect ourselves? Is it not worth the lives of American citizens, or any decent human being for that matter, to sacrifice a few of our freedoms? And can you at least accept the fact that you can oppose this administration and still believe that everything that happened on 9/11 was exactly what the official story says? I am one of those people, and I know others who hold the same opinion.

waterdancer - October 22, 2006 06:56 AM (GMT)
links for moving on here. Save what you can, if you care.

midwestzero47240 - October 22, 2006 07:59 AM (GMT)
the forums arent dead.. just gotta be smart and find them

mo fiya - October 22, 2006 03:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (pewter @ Oct 22 2006, 01:29 AM)
And what makes you think that I support this president and support everything he's doing? I'm a true liberal and would like nothing better than to see Bush out of office, but at the same time, I have done plenty of research on my own and have even started up my own blog on the issue, and all facts point me to the conclusion that this cannot possibly be a cover-up.

the reason why you can't see that there is a cover-up, even though you still hate bush, is because you see that if 9/11 was a conspiracy and it's being covered up, it goes way deeper than bush. you can't imagine a country in which getting rid of one bad leader doesn't really make the problem go away.

i don't understand how you can possibly see that this isn't a cover-up. for christ sake, they obviously are covering up building 7. they talked about it THAT DAY, and then never talked about it again until they HAD to, because the conspiracy theories were getting enough attention that they had to address that aspect.

you ever seen building 7 video footage on the news? maybe that day, and then never again. but yet they have no problem showing the tower collapses. i have talked to so many people who had no clue that a third building collapsed that day. come on, the biggest supposed terrorist attack in the history of the nation and people watched the news ALL DAY. FOR DAYS ON END. and yet so many people still have no idea that building 7 collapsed. most people had to hear about it by watching conspiracy doc's or reading about in on the internet. that pisses me off to no end. why would they not want building 7 publicised?

please do us and the country a favor and just move on. if you don't believe 9/11 was something other than 19 idiots who controlled our airspace for 2 hours undefended, than just forget about this 9/11 conspiracy stuff and move on. theres nothing more to see here.

JerryB9105 - October 23, 2006 12:36 AM (GMT)
My wife and I had lunch today with a police officer (actually a corrections officer -- guy works as a guard at a prison facility in New Jersey) -- we sat down together today because he is boyfriend to a neice of ours, and we were visiting from out of town. Nice guy in some regards, a jerk in others. But that's getting away from my point here --

I began lunch conversation by explaining about the airplanes that had struck the twin towers on 9/11 (and he acknowledge having seen this for himself on tv as most all of us did) -- and I went on to tell him what I knew of the fires that day and how long it was before each tower collapsed and in which order -- I gave him my thoughts on why there was a collapse (i.e., being a controlled demolition) -- explaining to him the near free fall speed and the collapse straight down; and how no steel-framed high rise in history -- before or after -- ever reacted as those towers did that one single day. Then I went on tell him about a third building that also fell down on 9/11; a building that had no airplane and very small fires, a third building located at the WTC site. I told him everything I have come to know regarding WTC7 //and // HE HAD NO IDEA OF IT AT ALL. Unbelievable to me but not so hard to understand considering the silent mainstream media (and the 9/11 Commission) avoiding the issue of WTC7 like it was the plague or something even worse.

He was extremely interested and hopefully will check into this further now for his own sake and understanding of the total lies our government has force fed us, each one of us, expecting we will believe any of their horsesh*t. And that's what it is // that's what the official story is // a pack of lies and nothing less.

Glad to see some of you guys still out there watching over this forum. Keep us the good work in this regard.

*****
Edited to add:
I just realized I posted this in the Youth Section. Sorry for doing that -- I haven't been a youth in quite some time now, many years. Well, maybe still in my own mind I still am -- I'm sure my wife would agree to that. But again sorry for not paying closer attention -- I was surprised to find this section active while others remain locked and just started typing my thoughts after reading some of yours.

I'll take the hit on this. In the meantime want to leave the post as is because I feel strongly that everyone (age regardless) needs to hear the TRUTH. And the truth is -- our government has lied to us and continues to lie to us. All of us need to get control over this -- and quick. Thanks for listening.

painter - October 23, 2006 12:51 AM (GMT)
I invite everyone to join those of us who have moved to the forum at pilotsfor911truth.org

Come check it out. You're all welcome.

Peace,

painter

painter - October 23, 2006 12:57 AM (GMT)
Great posts, mo fiya! [cheers]

Enough of the bullshit. People don't get it. The Constitution has just been ripped to shreds. We are now an empire masquerading as a Repupblic. Three quarters of our navy is in the persian gulf beggin Iran to attack it to give the imperils a reason to nuke the Iranians.

Meanwhile, 7 Chinese nuclear subs are only miles off the west coast of the US while several Russian nuclear subs are off the US east coast, begging us to give them a reason to take out as many US cities as they can.

All of this brought to you by THE LIE THAT IS 9/11!

[nono]

Unf*cking believable, folks. Unf*cking believable.

The_weez - October 23, 2006 02:35 AM (GMT)
Hey Painter, whered you hear all that about the nuclear subs??

painter - October 23, 2006 03:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The_weez @ Oct 22 2006, 06:35 PM)
Hey Painter, whered you hear all that about the nuclear subs??
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Dick Cheney (aka "Darth Vader") has declared that ANY attack on America similar to 9/11 would be consdered an attack by Iran and provocation for launching an immediate "pre-emtive war" against the underground nuclear facilities of Iran. The Iranian nuclear research facilitiies are 350' to 400' feet below ground with concrete re-inforcements against bunker buster bombs, necessitating tactical nuclear bombs on over 1,500 pre-targeted sites in highly populated residential areas of Iran.

Russia and China (PRC) have signed mutual defense agreements with Iran with military advisors from both countries stationed in Iran. China has signed a contract for a 10 year supply of Iranian light crude oil. Both Russia and China are carrying out war games in the Persian Gulf with Iran.

Seven Chinese (PRC) nuclear submarines (similar to Ohio Class in USA) each armed with 48 nuclear missiles and warheads, have been confirmed by Pelican helicopters in the coastal waters of Califonia within eight to nine miles of the shoreline. A similar group of Russian submarines armed with nuclear missiles are cruising in the coastal waters on the Eastern seaboard and this is all known to the Pentagon war planners. Condi Rice was in Moscow yesterday. The military commanders from Iraq were called to the White House for a 90 minute face to face meeting yesterday. The war cabinet of the USA were tentativley sheduled to meet at Camp David soon.

Most US intelligence reports agree that Iran is 5 to 10 years from acquiring a functional nuclear bomb, but the real economic threat to America is their proposed Iranian Oil Bourse to be opened on the Isle of Kiss (Persian Gulf) trading Iranian and world oil supplies in Euros (original planned open date was March 22, 2006). Iran is threatening the Petro-Dollar hegemeny established by Nixon/Kissinger in the Bretton Woods Agreement in the early 1970's pegging the dollar to the global price of oil traded exclusively in NYC and London. This is a threat to the American and Global economy since countries buying oil on the global market will no longer be required to maintain cash reserves in dollars printed at will by the Federal Reserve.

The plan is a false flag attack by disguised Iranian provocateurs on the Eisenhower (scheduled to be de-commissioned in 2014) with a crew of 5,700 to enflame the American citizens and Congress to justify the nuclear attack on Iran similar to the Gulf of Tonkin, USS Liberty, and 9/11. Purportedly the commander of the Eisenhower has been briefed about this false flag attack on his ship and crew.

The objectives of this pending scenario are the threatened attack on Iran and their nuclear research facilities, control of the oil in Khuzestan province in south west Iran, recall of 250,000 retired military personel, initiate the draft with no student deferments of all ablebodied citizens to age 42, implementation of marshall law in America, suspension of the November 7 elections to block possible Democratic controlled House that can implement investigations and Articles of Impeachment.

In the event this false flag attack occurs and this nuclear attack is ordered or implemented, then there are 250,000 retired and active duty military personel, primarily navy seals and special forces, in position to arrest and hold both Bush and Cheney on charges of treason and a long list of war crimes during the last five years. There are written dossiers on all the men and women in the Administration and Congress that would also be arrested and charged with treason and war crimes including the events and crimes on 9/11/01. Then an entire list of statutes and laws passed by Congress like the Patriot Acts and the Presidential Executive Orders in conflict with the Constitution and all its Ammendments will be rescinded.

In chess terms it's my hope that we are at "check" and "check-mate". Even Zignew Brezinski, The Grand Chessboard, has opposed attacks on Iran publicly. My prayers are that the lunatics in power in America reflect on the consequences of plunging the world into another war leading to the extinction of all living things on planet earth, that the November elections occur as scheduled with all real votes being counted, that transition to reforms and a new political paradigm ensues, that truth prevails over lies and falsehoods, and this brinkmanship crisis leads to conflict resolution that is sane without further and widening wars, unnecessary deaths and destruction.


My bolding.

By the way, Klaatu barada nikto!

knightc6 - October 23, 2006 02:45 PM (GMT)
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if you're a skeptic, than f*cking go some place else. find another forum to bitch and complain at, preferably a non-9/11 truth forum, because frankly none of us truthers give 2 horse's nutsacks about what you people THINK you know about the subject.



Well, thats a great example of being completely closed minded. Please don't lump all truthers into your same fallacious point of view.

e-dog - October 23, 2006 03:57 PM (GMT)
great article painter, thanks :D


IT [cheers]

Roxdog - October 24, 2006 05:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (pewter @ Oct 21 2006, 11:29 PM)
I'm a true liberal

Yikes....perhaps that is your problem.

burnice - October 27, 2006 07:21 PM (GMT)
Well I'm totally f*cking lost. I show up here to check stuff out one day and the forum is down. Then I continue to return thinking it must just be some glitch or maintenance or something. So then I see admins (painter, specifically) resigning, but all associated posts deleted. So wtf, the most popular 911 forum, spawned from the most popular 911 film, is done for? I'm sure there was plenty of behind the scenes bullshit going down that I have no clue about, but a statement of some sort would be nice.

Oh well. Moving on. Here's some of the forums I enjoy:

http://jackbloodforum.com

http://infowarsforum.com

http://revereradio.net


e-dog - October 27, 2006 08:48 PM (GMT)

burnice - October 30, 2006 04:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (e-dog @ Oct 27 2006, 08:48 PM)
the new forum:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...om/activism.htm


IT--

Cool. thanks man.




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