Title: Further Proof Of A Flyover
Description: The overlooked eyewitness accounts
Merc - September 7, 2006 05:55 PM (GMT)
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As we watched the black plume gather strength, less than a minute after the explosion, we saw an odd sight that no one else has yet commented on. Directly in back of the plume, which would place it almost due west from our office, a four-engine propeller plane, which Ray later said resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the Pentagon. It was coming from an odd direction (planes don’t go east-west in the area), and it was descending at a much steeper angle than most aircraft. Trailing a thin, diffuse black trail from its engines, the plane reached the Pentagon at a low altitude and made a sharp left turn, passing just north of the plume, and headed straight for the White House.
All the while, I was sort of talking at it: "Who the hell are you? Where are you going? You’re not headed for downtown!" Ray and Verle watched it with me, and I was convinced it was another attack. But right over the tidal basin, at an altitude of less than 1000 feet, it made another sharp left turn to the north and climbed rapidly. Soon it was gone, leaving only the thin black trail.
-Scott Cook
http://www.clothmonkey.com/91101.htm
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We saw the C-130, a plane with an almost identical wingspan to the 757
(132 ft for the C-130, 124 ft for the 757), a few moments later,
coming in on basically the same path. But he was a lot higher and
slower, trailing black smoke, and we were looking in that direction
anyway at the smoke plume
-Scott Cook in an e-mail |
Ok so by all accounts, even the video Russell has produced, the C-130 was way behind the other plane,
arriving a minute later, even according to the pilot's own account...
9:37 a.m.: Witnesses See Military Cargo Plane Near Flight 77; Pilot Implies He’s Far Away http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity....=1521846767-202| QUOTE |
| The pilot of the C-130, Lieutenant Colonel Steve O’Brien, is later interviewed, but his account differs from the on-the-ground eyewitnesses. He claims that just before the explosion, “With all of the East Coast haze, I had a hard time picking him out,” implying he is not nearby. He also says that just after the explosion, “I could see the outline of the Pentagon,” again implying he is not nearby. He then asks “the controller whether [I] should set up a low orbit around the building,” but he is told “to get out of the area as quickly as possible.” “I took the plane once through the plume of smoke and thought if this was a terrorist attack, it probably wasn’t a good idea to be flying through that plume.” [Star-Tribune (Minneapolis), 10/11/2002] |
I submit that the C-130 was called in or added to the mix to confuse people. To blend stories of the flyover plane with the C-130 that showed up a minute later.
The following accounts, I believe, ARE that of the flyover plane. Either these witnesses DEDUCED that there were two planes, because they saw an explosion and a plane at a high altitude veer off over the Pentagon. Or these are planted stories in order to merge the arrival of the C-130 with the departure of the flyover plane.
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Kelly Knowles says that seconds after seeing Flight 77 pass, she sees a "second plane that seemed to be chasing the first [pass] over at a slightly different angle." [Daily Press (Newport News), 10/15/2001]...
Kelly Knowles, a First Colonial High School alumnus who now lives in an apartment a few miles from the Pentagon, said some sort of plane followed the doomed American Airlines jet toward the Pentagon, then veered away after the explosion.
"Thank God somebody else saw that. There was most definitely a second plane," Knowles said. "It's so frustrating because nobody knows about the second plane, or if they do they're hiding it for some reason."
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Chasing? That slow ass C-130 was chasing it? Arriving a minute later?
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| Keith Wheelhouse says the second plane was a C-130; two other witnesses aren’t certain. [Daily Press (Newport News), 10/15/2001] Wheelhouse “believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar, while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.” As Flight 77 descends toward the Pentagon, the second plane veers off west. [Daily Press (Newport News), 10/14/2001] |
How is that possible? Flew directly over the AA 757? That is not the C-130.
Kieth then comes in and lends credence to the C-130 being the plane that was flying on top of the other, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THE C-130 WAS TOO FAR BACK AND TOO SLOW TO KEEP UP WITH THIS 530 MPH JET. I think Kieth may be a suspect witness...
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"So I wasn't losing my mind," he said.
In the days immediately following the Sept. 11 hijackings, the Pentagon had no knowledge of the C-130's encounter, because all reports were classified by the Air National Guard, the Pentagon spokesman said.
"It was very hard to get any information out," McClellan said.
Wheelhouse said the Pentagon explanation of the cargo plane's role that day makes sense. The pilot of the C-130 was unable to prevent the attack, he said.
"He's in a transport plane, you watch a jumbo jet flying low, drop its nose and gun it," Wheelhouse said. "What's he going to do?" |
Suspect witness Vin mentions the second plane also just after the plane exploded
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| USA Today reporter Vin Narayanan, who saw the Pentagon explosion, says, “I hopped out of my car after the jet exploded, nearly oblivious to a second jet hovering in the skies.” [USA Today, 10/17/2001] |
The "second plane" was the Flyover plane...
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| USA Today Editor Joel Sucherman sees a second plane but gives few details. [eWeek, 10/13/2001] Brian Kennedy, press secretary for a congressman, and others also see a second plane. [Sacramento Bee, 10/15/2001] |
A second plane. Well what if the second plane people saw was the plane that did the flyover? Again, all you have to do is mix in people's accounts of the C-130 flying over 'later' right after the impact and there you can explain away 'two planes'.
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| An unnamed worker at Arlington National Cemetery “said a mysterious second plane was circling the area when the first one attacked the Pentagon.” [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 1/20/2002] |
Huh? Circling?
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| John O’Keefe is driving a car when he sees the Pentagon crash. “The first thing I did was pull over onto the shoulder, and when I got out of the car I saw another plane flying over my head. ... Then the plane—it looked like a C-130 cargo plane—started turning away from the Pentagon, it did a complete turnaround.” [New York Law Journal, 10/12/2001] |
Could be the genuine C-130. That is merging the two together,
Merc - September 7, 2006 07:40 PM (GMT)
There's your answer:
Wheelhouse “believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet (that wasn't there), as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar (really one plane), while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.” (It was the jet being guided to and then OVER the Pentagon) As "Flight 77" descends toward the Pentagon, the ("second") plane veers off west
JAStewart - September 7, 2006 07:42 PM (GMT)
So it would have been remote-=controlled by the plane ABOVE it? hence the accuracy, right?
Great work!
Merc - September 7, 2006 07:47 PM (GMT)
No JA,
The plane flying above the other IS the "Flight 77" that veered off. There was only one plane. And it veered off.
KADrummer6 - September 7, 2006 10:13 PM (GMT)
So Merc, what you're saying is "flight 77" and the "other plane" following it are actually one plane, and it was NOT the c-130 following it, because the C-130 was the one circling in the air (plus it's too big and slow to keep up with a 580 mph plane)?
Just want to get the story straight. that would make sense, seeing as how there was a 3rd plane in between flight 11 and 175 at the WTC, and a couple different "white planes" in the area of Flight 93 (according to eyewitnesses). That would easily confuse eyewitnesses and conflict their testimony if no one can agree on what they saw.
Merc - September 7, 2006 10:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (KADrummer6 @ Sep 7 2006, 10:13 PM) |
So Merc, what you're saying is "flight 77" and the "other plane" following it are actually one plane, and it was NOT the c-130 following it, because the C-130 was the one circling in the air (plus it's too big and slow to keep up with a 580 mph plane)?
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Close, very close KA.
I think the circling one would be the White/grey plane that made the dive, the flyover plane. Or it could be that we're reading it wrong. Perhaps he meant circling after the other one attacked. And circling is the word he used.
I am saying the C-130 comes in shortly after the flyover plane flies over. The flyover plane is merged into the identity of the C-130.
Merc - September 8, 2006 02:00 AM (GMT)
No one wants to explain Kieth Wheelhouse's plane flying on top of the impact plane, that later veers away?
Russell? JDX?
johndoeX - September 8, 2006 03:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Merc @ Sep 7 2006, 10:00 PM) |
No one wants to explain Kieth Wheelhouse's plane flying on top of the impact plane, that later veers away?
Russell? JDX? |
I have my opinions.. but im keeping them to myself for now...
Im looking at ALL the facts.. not just one portion of it.. .
[cheers] [salute]
Russell Pickering - September 8, 2006 03:49 AM (GMT)
Merc,
As you know I am not a big eyewitness evaluater. These are from a .pdf I have compiled by Ron Harvey, an official story guy associated with Sarah Roberts. These are the C-130 quotes. They were on the CD that got sat on! LOL
There are just copied and pasted.
Russell
John O’Keefe, 25-year-old Northern Virginia commuter, managing editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about lobbying was "not much more than a football field away" “The first thing I did was pull over onto the shoulder, and when I got out of the car I saw another plane flying over my head, and it scared ...me, because I knew there had been two planes that hit the World Trade Center. And I started jogging up the ramp to get as far away as possible “Then the plane -- it looked like a C-130 cargo plane -- started turning away from the Pentagon, it did a complete turnaround.
Scott P. Cook was at work on the fifth floor of the Portals building, at 1280 Maryland Avenue SW, Washington DC. Immediately opposite to the Pentagon across the River. - "As we watched the black plume gather strength, less than a minute after the explosion, we saw an odd sight that no one else has yet commented on. Directly in back of the plume, which would place it almost due west from our office, a four-engine propeller plane, which Ray later said resembled a C-130, started a steep decent towards the Pentagon. It was coming from an odd direction (planes don’t go east-west in the area), and it was descending at a much steeper angle than most aircraft. Trailing a thin, diffuse
black trail from its engines, the plane reached the Pentagon at a low altitude and made a sharp left turn, passing just north of the plume, and headed straight for the White House. All the while, I was sort of talking at it: "Who the hell are you? Where are you going? You’re not headed for downtown!" Ray and Verle watched it with me, and I was convinced it was another attack. But right over the tidal basin, at an altitude of less than 1000 feet, it made another sharp left turn to the north and climbed rapidly. Soon it was gone, leaving only the thin black trail.
Allen Cleveland watched from a metro train:
"Soon after the crash (Within 30 seconds of the crash) I witnessed a military cargo plane (Possibly a C130) fly over the crash site and circle the mushroom cloud. My brother inlaw also witnessed the same plane following the jet while he was on the HOV lanes in Springfield. He said that he saw a jetliner flying low over the tree tops near Seminary RD in Springfield, VA. and soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right behind it. I think this was also a reason for the false threat of another plane about to crash which caused rescuers to have to evacuate for a short time after the initial crash."
Vin Narayanan: "I hopped out of my car after the jet exploded, nearly oblivious to a second jet hovering in the skies."
Off to the west, Sucherman saw another plane "off to the South West and it made a bee line straight up into the sky and then it angled off" "I thought, 'Is this thing coming around to make a second attack? If there is another explosion, we're toast.'"
"Within a minute another plane started veering up and to the side. At that point it wasn't clear if that plane was trying to manouver out of the air space or if that plane was coming round for another hit."
Anon, from the Naval Annex: We constantly scanned skyward with our "eyeball radar," noting the sound of every jet engine seemed to make us jump. Fortunately, the only aircraft noise was the crisp distinctive ripping sound was of Air Force F-16's or the roar and popping of the rotor blades of a
Park Police UH-1 helicopter surveying the damage. The only large fixed wing aircraft to appear was a gray C-130, which appeared to be a Navy electronic warfare aircraft, he seemed to survey the area and depart in on a westerly heading.
Kelly Knowles, a First Colonial High School alumnus who now lives in an apartment a few miles from the Pentagon, said some sort of plane followed the doomed American Airlines jet toward the Pentagon, then veered away after the explosion.
At the same time, Keith Wheelhouse and his sister, Pam Young, who lives in Surry, were preparing to leave a funeral at Arlington National Cemetery, which is less than a mile from the Pentagon, when they watched the jet approach and slam into the Pentagon. Both of them, as well as at least one other person at the funeral, insist that there was another plane flying near the hijacked jet.
(abstracted from the ARLINGTON Daily Press; Newport News; Sep 15, 2001)
Keith Wheelhouse, of Virginia Beach, spotted the planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C 130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon. insists he was not confused by other air traffic. A Norfolk-based FBI agent interviewed him, Wednesday evening.
(abstracted from the ARLINGTON Daily Press; Newport News; Sep 14, 2001)
An Arlington Cemetery worker who declined to be interviewed in front of the media told a story that the military historians had not heard in the 244 interviews they had conducted through last week: ".. a mysterious second plane was circling the area when the first one attacked the Pentagon."
Phillip Thompson was sitting in the I-395 HOV lanes directly across from the Navy Annex..."I started directing cars to pull to the side of the HOV lanes to make way for emergency vehicles. On the way in to work, I’d heard about the two planes that attacked the World Trade Center, and now that came to mind. What if “dash two” was inbound to the Pentagon? Then a gray C-130 flew overhead, setting off a new round of panic. I tried to reassure people that the plane was not a
threat.
"Renzi, who was interviewed at the scene by FBI agents, said he stopped his car to watch and saw another plane following and turn off after the first craft's impact.
A 'Civilian' on his way to the Pentagon interviewed an hour after the event said:"Right there right where the smoke's coming out. I was in in my car - yeah - a big assed plane - a four propeller, huge grey plane"
An unidentified contributor wrote: I'm curious as to why no one has mentioned the all white, no markings jet that was flying in an erratic flight pattern over the pentagon just minutes before the explosion turned jet crash happened? I was sitting near my home listening to the radio broadcast when they mentioned once, AND ONLY ONCE, about the eyewitnesses who had seen this all white, unmarked aircraft flying erratically over the pentagon just before the crash.
People began to evacuate the building Tuesday morning after an apparent fire alarm and reports that a plane was flying in the restricted airspace over the Capitol, the officer said. After seeing the plane approach the Capitol, security personnel and pedestrians began to flee. The unmarked plane, thought at first to be a government aircraft, changed course and flew in the opposite direction and ultimately toward the Pentagon.
(Cavalier Daily, 9/13/01 - Deirdre Erin Murphy & Kadie Bye (Lexis Nexis)
In a TLC documentary the pilot of the C-130 was identified
NARRATOR:
By chance a C-130 is already in the skies above Washington. The plane everyone is looking for is right in front of them. National Guard Lt. Col.Steve O'Brien.
We were at about 3,500 feet at the time that I first noticed this commercial airliner in our 12 o'clock position in about a 45-degree bank, which is unusual for a large aircraft to be descending and turning at a 45-degree bank turn like that, so that really got our attention. The next thing we saw was a fireball and a big plume of smoke.
From a mail message from 'Isopodia' (Sarah Roberts).
See also: The pilot's version
" When we took off, we headed north and west and had a beautiful view of the Mall. I noticed this airplane up and to the left of us, at 10 o'clock. He was descending to our altitude, four miles away or so. That's awful close, so I was surprised he wasn't calling out to us. It was like coming up to an intersection. When air traffic control asked me if we had him in sight, I told him that was an understatement -- by then, he had pretty much filled our windscreen. Then he made a pretty aggressive turn so he was moving right in front of us, a mile and a half, two miles away. I said we had him in sight, then the controller asked me
what kind of plane it was. That caught us up, because normally they have all that information. The controller didn't seem to know anything." O'Brien reported that the plane was either a 757 or 767 and its silver fuselage meant it was probably an
American Airlines jet. "They told us to turn and follow that aircraft -- in 20-plus years of flying, I've never been asked to do something like that. With all of the East Coast haze, I had a hard time picking him out. The next thing I saw was the fireball. It was huge. I told Washington the airplane has impacted the ground."
johndoeX - September 8, 2006 04:00 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Russell Pickering @ Sep 7 2006, 11:49 PM) |
| With all of the East Coast haze, I had a hard time picking him out. The next thing I saw was the fireball. It was huge. I told Washington the airplane has impacted the ground." |
[wavetowel] [wavetowel] <~~~ this is me waiving the BULLSHIT FLAG.
East coast haze? That was one of the most gorgeous days i have seen in a long time. I even remember making the comment when i woke up as i was getting ready for work, "Wow, its a great day to fly!".
It was severe clear all up and down the east coast that day...
And to top it off...
METAR KDCA 111251Z 35005KT 10SM CLR 21/14 A3021
SPECI KDCA 111341Z 33010KT 10SM CLR 23/14 A3022
METAR KDCA 111351Z 34009KT 10SM CLR 23/14 A3023
10 miles visibility reported at DCA.. no haze. (10 miles is the highest stations report... i would say visibility was closer to 25 miles plus that day.) The fighter pilots from Otis could see the WTC smoke from the end of Long Island.. 100 miles away.
There was no haze anywhere on the east coast that day.
Merc - September 8, 2006 01:05 PM (GMT)
JDX,
Yeah I caught that too, didn't make a mention of it. But that is definitely a bullshit account.
Russell,
I have seen all those quotes. There are two seperate events that are being questioned. The C-130 did not come until a minute later. So what is the plane that was flying on top of the other that veers away as the other one impacts?
water_bender - September 8, 2006 01:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Merc @ Sep 8 2006, 01:05 PM) |
JDX,
Yeah I caught that too, didn't make a mention of it. But that is definitely a bullshit account.
Russell,
I have seen all those quotes. There are two seperate events that are being questioned. The C-130 did not come until a minute later. So what is the plane that was flying on top of the other that veers away as the other one impacts? |
based on the direction from which the white plane had come, it seems that the big jet is likely to be the jet that is described as large white, and making circles around the area, but from what i've been able to garner from my research it wouldnt have the capabilites to come in from the direction it did and then mimic the actions of the incoming "flight 77". so does this point to yet another aircraft in the area bringing the total to 4?
Merc - September 8, 2006 01:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (water_bender @ Sep 8 2006, 01:26 PM) |
| QUOTE (Merc @ Sep 8 2006, 01:05 PM) | JDX,
Yeah I caught that too, didn't make a mention of it. But that is definitely a bullshit account.
Russell,
I have seen all those quotes. There are two seperate events that are being questioned. The C-130 did not come until a minute later. So what is the plane that was flying on top of the other that veers away as the other one impacts? |
based on the direction from which the white plane had come, it seems that the big jet is likely to be the jet that is described as large white, and making circles around the area, but from what i've been able to garner from my research it wouldnt have the capabilites to come in from the direction it did and then mimic the actions of the incoming "flight 77". so does this point to yet another aircraft in the area bringing the total to 4?
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No, there was no second plane. The second plane was THE plane.
I am just talking about a plane veering away as the other hit.
BTW, great find on Linda Brookhart, way to step it up.
water_bender - September 8, 2006 03:15 PM (GMT)
i got a reply from linda brookhart today
Subject: RE: what street was your white plane photo shot from
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:41:15 -0500
From: "Linda Brookhart" <Linda@iltaxwatch.org> Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: water_bender@xxxx.xxx
I am so sorry! At first I had a hard time locating my map. Then I went to see The World Trade Center last night and remembered that I had not contacted you.
We were evacuated from the Old Executive Office Building and sent to the street which runs in front of it – 17th Street . We were on the Northwest corner of Pennsylvania Ave. and the street that is closed to traffic that runs in front of the White House. According to the map I have, the corner of the building that is in the photo could be the Renwick Gallery which I think is located in the New Executive Office Building . I have been told that I didn’t identify the right building, but there isn’t another one around. I was standing in the middle of the street when I took the picture talking to a security guard. The two people in my group who were standing with me agree with me. I have been back to DC since then, but not to that particular corner.
Linda L. Brookhart
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Taxpayers' Federation of Illinois
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From: water_bender@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:water_bender@xxx.xxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:21 AM
To: Linda Brookhart
Subject: RE: what street was your white plane photo shot from
hi ms brookhart, i hope you are having a lovely start to the weekend. have you had a chance to identify the location from which you snapped the white plane photograph? i am hoping to get all of my research completed today so that the piece can be finished this weekend in time for publication on monday. im sorry if i am being a bother, but your help is greatly appreciated. cheers, xxxxx.
this makes things very odd, but does rectify earlier accounts of the flight path that include the flight of the plane to come in along the potomac. flight '77' pulled a tighjt spiral to the south west of the pentagon, and perhaps the white plane made a wider turn along the potomac and the two planes could have synced up somewhere near the navy annex.... this seems like an awfully short amount of time to be in sync though.
Merc - September 8, 2006 03:53 PM (GMT)
You need to find out what time she saw it and what direction it was heading in.
Merc - September 8, 2006 03:56 PM (GMT)
water_bender - September 9, 2006 10:01 AM (GMT)
http://www.taxpayfedil.org/images/plane.jpg
this building in the background doesnt look like its the same building as the old executive building or the renwick. there arent any real similarities to the two buildings and the building in the photograph other than color. the alignment of the photo and the building and the street suggests that the street she was standing on ran east west. thats assuming that the plane was tyravelling south westerly. i hyave asked ms brookhart for more details, but doubt ill get an answer till monday or later.
johndoeX - September 9, 2006 11:33 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (water_bender @ Sep 9 2006, 06:01 AM) |
this building in the background doesnt look like its the same building as the old executive building or the renwick. there arent any real similarities to the two buildings and the building in the photograph other than color. |
Exactly...
That is exactly what i been saying.. water.. check your PM's please for my phone number. .we need to chat.
KADrummer6 - September 10, 2006 01:00 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Russell Pickering @ Sep 7 2006, 11:49 PM) |
| An unidentified contributor wrote: I'm curious as to why no one has mentioned the all white, no markings jet that was flying in an erratic flight pattern over the pentagon just minutes before the explosion turned jet crash happened? I was sitting near my home listening to the radio broadcast when they mentioned once, AND ONLY ONCE, about the eyewitnesses who had seen this all white, unmarked aircraft flying erratically over the pentagon just before the crash. |
The quote has me perplexed. According to anon, there was a "white, no markings jet" flying erratically minutes BEFORE the pentagon attack? Who were these eyewitnesses? was this a misinformed response on the radio?
Could this have been the plane over flight 77? or "flight 77" itself"? Any merit to this quote or just another misinformed quote? It couldn't have been the C-130 because it didn't appear until AFTER the attack following flight 77.
Russell Pickering - September 10, 2006 03:46 AM (GMT)
KA,
I don't know the details of the quote. I just took it from a collection of accounts in case Merc hadn't seen it. Since it is anonymous unfortunately we can't look into it.
Russell
Kamala - September 10, 2006 12:41 PM (GMT)
KADrummer6 - September 10, 2006 01:45 PM (GMT)
Russell,
Yeah, I figured since it was anonymous and listened to on the radio it probably wouldn't be investigated. Plus it's the only quote I've seen that states something like that.
One thing for sure I've noticed is if a plane WAS following Flight 77, it wasn't the C-130 since the pilot even said he was still pretty far away.
...that is to say if there WAS a plane following right over flight 77, since all the eyewitness accounts are so convoluted. I find it weird we can find a lot of eyewitnesses hearing explosions in the World Trade Centers, Continual eyewitnesses stating they can't find any reminants of a plane for Flight 93, but at the Pentagon, no one can seem to get their stories straight. Guess that's why I'm so intruiged with this part of the attack :)
Merc - September 11, 2006 06:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (KADrummer6 @ Sep 10 2006, 01:00 AM) |
| QUOTE (Russell Pickering @ Sep 7 2006, 11:49 PM) | | An unidentified contributor wrote: I'm curious as to why no one has mentioned the all white, no markings jet that was flying in an erratic flight pattern over the pentagon just minutes before the explosion turned jet crash happened? I was sitting near my home listening to the radio broadcast when they mentioned once, AND ONLY ONCE, about the eyewitnesses who had seen this all white, unmarked aircraft flying erratically over the pentagon just before the crash. |
The quote has me perplexed. According to anon, there was a "white, no markings jet" flying erratically minutes BEFORE the pentagon attack? Who were these eyewitnesses? was this a misinformed response on the radio?
Could this have been the plane over flight 77? or "flight 77" itself"? Any merit to this quote or just another misinformed quote? It couldn't have been the C-130 because it didn't appear until AFTER the attack following flight 77.
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That sounds like our plane.
KADrummer6 - September 11, 2006 11:16 PM (GMT)
Merc,
Found something interesting about the "erratic white plane" eyewitness
herehere's the quote in full:
Date: 9/17/01 6:37:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Dear Kent,
I'm curious as to why no one has mentioned the all white, no markings jet that was flying in an erratic flight pattern over the pentagon just minutes before the explosion turned jet crash happened? I was sitting near my home listening to the radio broadcast when they mentioned once, AND ONLY ONCE, about the eyewitnesses who had seen this all white, unmarked aircraft flying erratically over the pentagon just before the crash.
The reason this stood out to me and caused major bells and whistles to go off was because about a year ago, I was living in Western North Carolina during alot of "
chemtrails" on a daily basis. I just happened to get up early one morning to catch, with my binoculars, a
low flying, all white, unmarked jetliner (no windows) that had green tanks mounted on the back near the tail fin. These were not engines and were
spewing a trail of white chemtrails that were laid down in a tic tac toe manner (stopping and starting).
I watched the white gas come out of the tanks, then stop as each new line was laid down. When I heard the radio broadcast mention the all white, unmarked jet, I immediately felt a sense of knowing confirmation that sometimes the enemy is right in front of us and yet we cannot see. Perhaps......or perhaps not......
The eyewitness didn't see the plane of course, but a thought crossed my mind - Wasn't there a white trail of smoke coming from the back of the plane as it crashed? Just a thought.
Merc - September 12, 2006 06:45 PM (GMT)
Nope, but I would bet money that those reports were of our white plane that the white plane girl saw.
MC Jack - September 28, 2006 03:11 AM (GMT)
I think the white gas chemtrail planes ( i have seen the tic tac toe cross patterns) are not 747s - but at any rate they are damn queer.
